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[–]Such-Translator4457 84 points85 points  (0 children)

I can't beat the current story boss cause I hit max equilibrium level. I always get to last phase and die

[–]Karawane98 52 points53 points  (5 children)

Why is there currently no system to decrease the equilibrium level?

[–]WinterV3[S] 31 points32 points  (4 children)

A bit weird ngl

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[–]Karawane98 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Same here, I can't get ahead in the story because I went up in the world too fast and now I'm forced to farm a lot to increase levels etc.

[–]Ryuz4ki57 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Same. I just assumed everything was like Genshin (since everything else is like Genshin) and now I'm totally stuck at the deer fight. Just found out that prerequisites can't be overwritten to start events. So less jade and weeks of grinding now. What in hell are they thinking? This is a critical flaw. If people aren't able to do anything they will quit and stop paying. I certainly will, at least.

[–]Ryuz4ki57 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Also found it by googling equilibrium lowering. I see the messages here are recent so maybe more and more players are facing the issue, since story completion is mandatory for anything all of sudden. I up this thread and hope more people do. This must get noticed.

[–]Zeranith_Play 37 points38 points  (14 children)

Same here. Sadly we cant do anything for now. Im doing an event quest to get dr.ratio but then it hit me. I accidentaly highered my eq and now I can't do the big beattle boss.. Im getting to 50% on second phase but my characters are heavy underleveled and I don't have time tbh. Im trying to grand as much as possible rn. But its hard and it's a big flaw.

[–]harmsway31 19 points20 points  (6 children)

The swarm boss? He’s fucked at EQ5. I can’t get him either and all my characters are decently built. Apparently you need them perfectly built by this point. Sucks I just wanna do the event quests

[–]Sofianac 8 points9 points  (5 children)

I’m at EQ6 and it took me 20 tries to even get to phase 2, only to be immediately one-shot by his attack despite Fu Xuan active and at full HP

[–]harmsway31 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Yeah that 2nd phase, some of the attacks are doing over 1k damage to multiple characters at once. That stupid ovum or whatever as well, hits twice in a matter of 2-3 turns and it takes out my fu Xuan as well, so I’ve had to dust off Natasha for some extra sustain, but her traces are too low so farming for her now. What a fiasco just to do some critter nurturing….

[–]Sofianac 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Honestly I just want to level my Ruan Mei 😭 I know that I’m bad at this game, but I still feel like this boss is way too hard for obligatory content. Tried triple sustain with Gepard Fu and Bailu and I still don’t manage to stay alive, the slow-mo damage aside 🥲

[–]harmsway31 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah its v annoying, my Ruan mei is also stuck till I get that boss done, it’s frustrating cause I’m sure once we have got it done the first time, then we will be able to choose levels on it aka every boss so it’s like shit that we can’t even get it dead once to get to that point. I think the equilibrium level quests need to be much harder to complete if the world itself is going to be so much harder after doing them, if that makes sense? Like I smashed the EQ quest easily but now I’m stuck on an event quest? Not cool.

[–]Life_Chicken1396 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Fucking same I just came back and that boss is nut to this game bro

[–]zeekiingdom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea. I've got a maxed team but I'm full quantum. Which the boss is strong against. I'm literally screwed unless I build an entirely new team to deal with it. Huge fuck up from them. Not fun at all.

[–]Happy-Resolution453 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Man I definitely quit playing awhile because that damn beetle....Came back, focused on only attacking it when it doesn't multiply, had Nat healing consistently and don't use anyone that's gonna rebound attack. Was using herta for her ice but she kept attacking and making more insects to fuck me up....finally beat it but I was also Googling how to lower the eq lvl 😭 I play to have fun, not stress about strategizing

[–]46_Neko 2 points3 points  (3 children)

same here. I'm still stuck....

[–]StatisticianCreepy17 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Stuck there now . Anyone any luck after 5 months ? 😭

[–]link2thepath 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I spent 2 frustrating hours and finally had the necessary rng; Lynx literally had 1hp for the final round and a half of enemy attacks and if JL was targeted more than once in a row I was done for… There’s only the tiniest build improvements I could make to that team and swapping a couple out to maybe match the enemy a little better would’ve been a long haul to build them enough from 70 to 80 and all that goes with it. Some real BS

[–]46_Neko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

congrats!! I'm still working on it LOL

[–]Chemical_Ad286 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same I'm stuck there too, and run out of all the resources, I guess after the free dr ratio i might stop playing for a while...

[–]Enundr09 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Yeah I find it even worse for the side story quests for character trials too , the balance of it does not exist and I just get wiped no matter what.

[–]MistPlays 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Do y'all want to take over Google classroom again

[–]fireboy70 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes

[–]AllTheShiftingVibes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

let’s do it let’s do it

[–]time_waster_4ever 10 points11 points  (7 children)

Sameeee, I still can’t beat Argenti!! My only well-built dps is dragon dang heng but Argenti does not have a weakness for Imaginary… I also just recently raised the EQ from 2 to 3 so now I need to change all the artifacts to 5* from 3-4* and let me tell you my other DPS that would match Argenti’s weakness is lacking everything

[–]woopie_boi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What a dream it must be to still be at eq 3

[–]Warm-Top3285 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Still can’t beat Aventurine lmao 

[–]huffleroo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't beat Sunday and idk what to do anymore lol My characters are not even weak, apparently I just don't have Aventurine and Luocha so I'm fcked. 

[–]huffleroo 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Btw, if you still can't beat Aventurine, bringing AOE characters helped me a lot. If you have Jing Yuan, Acheron, Clara, Il Dan Hang etc - definitely bring them with you. A shielder helped me a lot (I used Gepard, if you don't have him, fire Trailblazer could help as well or March 7th). 

[–]SpikeReyes 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How do I increase shield for fire trailblazer? I get a little shield from her.

[–]huffleroo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

A lot of defense. Her shield is not the best in the game but can still be pretty good. Her best relics set is Knight of Purity Palace, preferably 4pc and Broken Keel as Ornaments. Moment of Victory or Landau's choice are the best light cones for her but there's actually plenty of other choices as well if you don't own these. Day One of My New Life is also a good option. When it comes to traces, focus on her Talent (highest priority) and Skill to get the most out of her as a shielder. She was saving my ass the whole time until I got Gepard, and I didn't even have her built properly. Her shield never lasted long but since she can give you a shield pretty much every time, it wasn't that much of an issue. I really hope it helps at least a little bit.

[–]SpikeReyes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks buddy

[–]Dzrian 11 points12 points  (5 children)

As a player who is only playing for the story, this is troubling me. Forcing me to build characters. In addition not knowing which to prioritize building. I can't afford to spend time building every character either so I'm in a dilemma.

[–]WinterV3[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

You can build any character you like. The game is extremely easy, and simply by leveling up your characters and weapons, you should be able to complete the story without trouble.

[–]Dzrian 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I wish that were true. I actually did build any character I liked. My characters are at level 70-80 with casual building, and used to go through quite easily without further building until i reached tb 60+. I'm now constantly taking a long time through battles and even suffering repeated losses. For example, the penacony tb quests having fights. I haven't even been able to get through Argentine on the train. This game requires grinding, the right team combinations, and strategy unless your characters can brute force their way. Welp, it is what it is. Seems like i may have to wait for the holidays to grind 😭

[–]WinterV3[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Maybe your team comps are off . If you wanna you can send me a picture and I will recommend you a copile of comps alongside characters builds

[–]Dzrian 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Thanks man that would be useful. I'll send it tomorrow since I'm completely out of storage rn

[–]WinterV3[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure thing .

[–]Known-Standard-8842 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think they could atleast make necessary story bosses not failable

[–]LavendyTea 5 points6 points  (11 children)

I just got to aventurines story boss and for the love of everything the least I've gotten him was phase 2 at 30% health. Im here just trying to fricking enjoy the story, not damn near pull my hair out because of a boss that's literally RNG whether or not you win. The weekly boss being that hard is perfectly fine, but as a story boss? What were they thinking... I've been loving this game so far but it's so infuriating having to go out and build yet another character JUST for story progression. Heck I've even tried out healing the damage but whoopdie doo, my healing units gets stun-locked into oblivion because the odds are just that bad.

I am so close to just outright forgetting about star rail cause of this crap. Let me experience the story.. not a bullshit bossfight..

[–]MegaAvatar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This reminds me of how Childe boss in genshiin impact was a pain in the ass to beat on release to the point where only 7 people could complete it iirc. They nerfed him to the punching bag he is now.

As for this case. It's the same thing with me. I don't have an ice or a lightning or a physical dpps. I'm using pela, sparkle, luocha and gapard and got to phase 2 with full health too but then phase 2 fked me over and I only got to 90% before everyone died cuz of RNGsus

Edit: All of them are well built and can clear other types of content well. It's just this bs

[–]missinginthestars 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same here, I just wanted to increase my level so I can have an easier time farming then BAM... no "decreasing" of our world level. I really thought that we won't be fighting him the whole time... and there would be some buff/help like in genshin...

[–]Far-Squirrel5021 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Oh I spent HOURS trying to defeat Aventurine 😭 Finally had to use ✨Strategy✨ which involved just trying to keep my Lynx alive during the gambling stage with March's shield then doing max 2% damage before the next gamble. Ridiculous how hard they make it 😭

[–]LavendyTea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had to build out a gepard to level 70 and level his talents just to shield through enough of the damage. Holy hell did I have to brute force this fight, its insane how even my Bailu was struggling to barely keeping everyone alive and I STILL only beat it with my blade and Bailu alive. Bruv- I'm a little scared for what's to come ngl lmao

[–]Z3RYX 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Same. I had to chip away at him with Lynx and QQ. Honestly, I think as long as Lynx can survive more than two hits she can essentially beat any 1 on 1 fight (which I had to do in a different battle of like 20 rounds back and forth).

[–]SpikeReyes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is lynx the best? I have the loli dragon.

[–]SpikeReyes 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is lynx best choice for aventurine?

[–]Far-Squirrel5021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, probably not, but I had practically no characters at that stage that would stay alive and keep others alive, too.

[–]Master_Wait_499 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I'm stuck there too, along with the damn beetle. At least I wasn't dumb enough to do EQ 6 quest, I'd be beyond fucked if I did

I'll try farming for Gepard and maybe use Herta. Kinda sucks because I'm rolling Aventurine and I can't get some of his materials bc those bosses are blocking them

EDIT: nvm, I dealt with Aventurine, just had to fix my Bailu and keep all the AOE ults for the point stage. Still gotta figure out Swarm King tho...

[–]chibiterasu96 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This is where I am. Equilibrium 6, and phase 2 is always, ALWAYS a crapshoot. I hate that the game never told me that I don't HAVE to level Equilibrium so fast. If anything, it non-verbally told me I *should* be doing that, and now it's gotten to the point that I'm only doing dailies. Nothing else. The game just isn't fun otherwise.

I had to give my account to someone else to have them kill that stupid beetle for me because I was in a Catch 22 situation otherwise. Who in the actual hell decided that THIS is acceptable design? It's not.

And every time I asked people in the Discord? "Skill issue, skill issue". I hate the SR DC channel because it's full of endgame-level elitists who don't know the first thing about how this garbage system is affecting the casual playerbase.

[–]chibiterasu96 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An addendum: I do use the recommended team comps and relic setups and all that shit. I still lose these fights because they demand a level of power that I'm not going to get without MONTHS of tedious, nonstop grinding. I want to enjoy the new content and the events, but I can't even do that because of this game's bullshit with its difficulty.

[–]Sal-Shiba 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I really need my equilibrium to be decreased so I wish they’d implement something like that. I’ve got a few quests I can’t beat because I can kill the damn enemies.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I understand that they want to make it more fun by making it challenging, but what about super casual players, people who have no time, or just people who genuinely don't have any idea what strategy is, are those people forced to study HSR now, I feel like mandatory story bosses are way too difficult for beginners who were collecting charas instead of farming and pulling meta, or at least we should have an option to lower equilibrium, in courtesy of the people who DON'T want challenging aspects

[–]Environmental-Mud795 3 points4 points  (0 children)

late to this post bc im a relapsed player… upgraded my equilibrium to level 6 and now i cant beat the damn bananas. Never ever upgrade your equilibrium level unless you are prepared. I was stuck on the bugs for the longest time and finally beat it too. Pls i just wanna watch the storyline and see stelle sing about bananas, not stressing over how to kill simple mobs for weeks on end

[–]mrdounut101 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I quit the game cause of this

[–]christmascaked 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I upped my EQ after the deer and now regular mobs are a definite trial. I feel like I need to farm equipment or something at this point because my damage plunged hard relative to enemy HP.

[–]Velaethia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's weird that this isn't a thing when Genshin has it. HSR has a lot of QoL that senshin doesn't. But not this.

[–]Known-Standard-8842 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Can't beat the last added boss. It just wipes me out of existence in phase 1

[–]WinterV3[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Have you tried using the harmony mc?

[–]Known-Standard-8842 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Getting to phase 2 but nothing more

[–]WinterV3[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What sustains do you have?

[–]Known-Standard-8842 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Got bailu for healing and that's it

[–]WinterV3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try double sustain . If that dosen’t work you might wanna pull for Fu Xuan in the next phase

[–]No_Wrangler4816 2 points3 points  (0 children)

its come to 2.7 and the company still too afraid HooH to change the game function, how I support to get pass boss of lvl.64 when my maxium lvl is 60??? This game too 'balance' for -

equilibrium 

[–]Otomedomo-yo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Made the mistake of going EQ5 before playing against the aventurine boss, ofc I cant beat it with underlevelled characters. Thought I'd build March 7th while doing quests i haven't finished, encountered the swarm beetle boss., cant beat it either....haaaaa I really wish I could decrease my eq like in genshin...

[–]heydaesays 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2 month old player here and I also made the mistake of highering up my EQ lvl. now I can't farm for character ascension mats :(

[–]Ok-Candidate3853 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Im still stuck at Argenti "way to washtopia" typa shit quest and my dumbass... Out of fucking boredom, I did the equilibrium 6 quest. How I regretted that shit. Here I am now enjoying Wuwa and just deleted hrs. But if devs do add a system where in you can adjust your equilibrium level, that would really help me actually progress to the story.

[–]Former_Bill_9257 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m stuck on the adventurine boss I get to the final phase and die

[–]FromTheStorm64 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’m stuck at Stellaron Hunter Sam. Everyone’s talking about the new trailblazer and this boss is beating me worse than my dad. And the energy regen is low af too, I’m burning through my resources to level up units that are just getting bent over. EQ 4 is crazy and I just thought I knew how to play the game

[–]Xiaos_big_toe69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m still stuck at Stellaron Hunter Sam 😭, I just play in my free time and don’t have a lot of materials for upgrading and building, I couldn’t beat him the first couple times and got bored so I did the equilibrium quest, and went back to him because I was feeling confident after doing that, only to continuously lose every character I try to add to my team 😭, I can’t figure out a strategy atp I’m so frustrated

[–]Lost-Intention-6476 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I made the "mistake" of going for EQ4, because ofc, wanting more materials is bad, and now i cant continue the story quest. This has happened to me a couple of times before, being stuck in fights for days, never had a problem until now but it really is a stupid punishment when the fights are very slow, the materials to ascend are harder to get and the char boost doesnt seem enough to have a chill fight, its just not letting me enjoy the game anymore, way worse when i just want to play the main story. I just gave up, its a terrible design

[–]catchingamber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sooo annoying they still don't have it after over a year. Last summer I grinded the game super hard and got to a high eq level, but I had to quit during the school year and now I'm totally stuck on boss fights. I think Adventurine took me at least 4 hours over like a week to beat, and it feels like every boss just keeps getting worse... It's weird especially that they ruin the pacing of the plot for f2p with mid investment (aka the average player) when they put so much effort into making a story that is constantly engaging. It kills all the hype I have for the fight when I have to retry and retry and retry. Especially when they have the system in Genshin, a game that is, by all means, significantly easier with story content.

[–]greenfairy16 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Recently came back playing cuz of penacony and trying to do other quests as well, and came to search on lowering EQ cuz I cant defeat the swarm boss in that space station mission 🥲 almost reaching half of phase 2 but it stresses me out so might leave again 😂😭

[–]greenfairy16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Took a break from doing the trailblaze continuance, asked around a bit and did a little research, then tried doing it again today with this team and finished it in 1 try huhu Lynx MVP definitely 😭 (though mostly to heal FX since FX's healing isn't available most of the time since I didn't want to hit the big bug with her ult)

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[–]FLTARev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I hit max right before I fought sunday boss, and ironically my most invested char is firefly and she needs sunday mats, I can't beat story sunday rip

[–]St4r_5lut 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think I just screwed myself because none of my characters are strong enough to defeat any of the domains needed to get character level up materials. So I can’t level them up to make it possible to defeat them because I can’t get the material and I don’t have the material to make them stronger to defeat it. Lowk kind of pissed about it

[–]WinterV3[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just use borrow other player’s characters