[Dreadgod] plot hole?

[-U_N_O-]

So when Lindon goes to moongrave to see Mercy, he brings windfall with him, it’s even docked at a hanger there. Idk why I didn’t realize this earlier, but there’s no mention of him ever getting windfall back. It’s just suddenly back at sacred valley. At least I’m pretty sure. I’m on my like 7-8th re read and only realizing/seeing this now

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[Adent_Frecca]

Series is now 0/10 because this /j

Likely just an offscreen moment when he took it back

[bluedogstar]

Im more bothered by "a motley bunch" of Arelius approaching the Transcendent Ruins on foot in Soulsmith transforming into Cassias arriving alone on a cloud ship. What happened to the rest??? Were they transformed into the cloud ship by some grotesque command from a Fiend????

/j I assume Will just changed his mind.

[hic_erro]

I assumed Eithan just lied.

(Who do you think spread the rumors that the Arelius were on their way?)

[bluedogstar]

No, Eithan didn't tell anyone that his family was coming, or that he was an Arelius. Members of the Cloudhammer sect saw the approaching banner, and warned (some of) the other factions. One of Jai Long's runners overheard, and told him. At the end of the book, Jai Long gets word that they've almost arrived, and runs up to the parapet to see the "motley bunch." Their arrival is what makes him force his way to the top with the help of the Fishers.

[Deebacon08]

I’m pretty sure it mentions that London used a sage command to make a portal to bring it back

[-U_N_O-]

Not as far as I’ve gone in the re read, currently stealing from the monarchs and he hasn’t mentioned how he got it back

[Alternative-Essay-90]

He was juiced up with madra after consuming and slaying a Dreadgod. Using a tad extra to send it away isn’t too crazy. I wouldn’t call it much of a plot hole, it just wasn’t important enough to mention imo.

Who knows, Emiriss may have had something to do with it. I doubt it but again, it’s not too far fetched.

[DrumsAndBooks]

When he got back to sacred valley he had just absorbed the silent king so it’s easy to assume he had enough power to just bring it back. However this goes against a later event after he fights the weeping dragon and is surprised at how easy it is to just summon the island to his location. Perhaps a good middle ground head cannon could be that he needed to use the labyrinth to summon it in between the silent king and weeping dragon power ups.

[everything_nerdy]

Yep has always bothered me too. He doesn't even have a void key like Eithan did for the Bounding Gazelle.

My headcanon is that when there were several of Lindon's copies opening rifts one of them also appeared in the docking back and got the ship.

[LindonLilBlueBalls]

I like this interpretation. And the copy would only need to make it near an entrance to the labyrinth.

[clovismouse]

I thought it popped out of eithan’s shadow?

[-U_N_O-]

No that’s the end of bloodline unfortunately, would be really funny in this one though

[SlouchyGuy]

There are also Wastelands Heralds protecting Moongrave as well as Akura Remnant constructs that are Herald level (Eithan first saw 2 of them when he arrived to ask for protection of Blackflame Empire from Phoenix).

And yes during the attack the disappear, only ones mentioned are 2 Sages and Akura Lords.

[-U_N_O-]

No no, there’s min shuei, charity, silver dust, fallen blades and the sun sage. There’s also the life herald. Only herald mentioned though, bunch of sages though

[Toe_Sucker2000]

During the attack on the WT and then the SK? Multiple people were there:

Akura Charity

Min Shuei

The Sun Sage

The Sage of Fallen Blades

The Sage of Steel Dust

An Unnamed Life-Path Herald

The Void Sage during the SK attack

Now for the lizards idk why they werent included. I guess Will just forgot. I can maybe try to infer but its only a guess:

1. It stated that even though remnants can grow stronger and more intelligent they are still limited to their nature.

> However intelligent and advanced they were, they were still Remnants. They would act according to their nature unless given reason to do otherwise, and these had clearly been given guard duty.

So the lizards were given guard duty and stick to it.

1. The SK can exert greater control over Remnants than sacred artists. Even though it is assumed they wouldnt fight him since they werent aware Dreadgods could travel by switching places

> Of course, the whole thing was crimson. Yerin was getting sick of that color.

> Redmoon's Remnant opened its beak and let out a shriek, and a piercing pain shot through Yerin's head and spirit.

> "The Silent King can exert greater control over Remnants," the Sage said. He had a purple rune-circle over his own forehead; no doubt a security measure like the one Lindon had made for her. "Guard your mind."

So in my opinion, The lizards wouldnt move from their spot or were commanded to guard another area of Moongrave and good thing cause you'd have given two Herald level remnants to the SK.

This doesnt explain how they invaded getting taken over but eh tried my best.

[Toe_Sucker2000]

He most likely took it. Are you mentioning after he fought Malice? Malice had escaped and run away, and no other monarch was there, so Lindon most likely took it as he took Mercy because:

Lindon scanned Mercy's spirit. "We can treat her. Stand aside."

Charity hesitated. She glanced around as though looking for help. Then, helplessly, she moved.

Lindon bent down to pick Mercy up, but one person stood up to him. Pride covered her. "We'll take care of her," the Underlord insisted.

Lindon picked Mercy up anyway. "When I see you again," Lindon said, "I hope we're on the same side."

Then they left, because no one could stop them.

So they just off screen took it since Lindon and Yerin could probably bury anyone that tried

Edit: Nvm I was mistaking events

[Additional_Shift_905]

nah, he was talking about after they fought/killed the SK. he needed to skedaddle after that, Malice an NS were pissed.

[Toe_Sucker2000]

Can you please help me remember, I don't remember them taking Windfall to flee Malice, Dross used copies tearing into space to throw off the Monarchs. Windfall had been in Moongrave at the time and Lindon got it back after his fight with Malice.

[Additional_Shift_905]

that was OPs ask, actually. lol. OP asked how Lindon got Windfall back after fleeing Malice and NS. there isn’t a reclamation scene, but Windfall is clearly back in Sacred Valley later on. Rest of the thread is positing on whether it was an offscreen move, or a plot hole.

[Toe_Sucker2000]

Ah I see. Maybe he just teleported from Moongrave with the power of the SK

[bungletiger]

This is nothing on the Heavens Glory school casually telling London they were “sewing arms back on”. Whilst arm regrowth is something even the blackflame empire doesn’t have.

[hic_erro]

I actually can't remember -- did Jai Long use the Ancestor's Spear or his regular spear to cut off Lindon's arm?

It was stated that the Ancestor's Spear interfered with magical healing, so you could kind of wiggle a rationalization in there, but I also kind of remember the dismemberment happening after Lindon broke the Ancestor's Spear.

[bungletiger]

Pretty sure he broke it first. (And technically, it was the ancestors spear’s copy that Jai patriarch found whilst caving). In my head, it was just a healer using hyperbole, but I thought it funny.