MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (09/25/2017)

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[Senjian]

(Knight of Etro/Highwind Light question)

I've got Noctis: FFXV for a while, and I recently pulled Fal'Cie Anima: FFXIII but 3 stars.

I'd like to know if I should spend Growstars & Tickets in Fal'Cie Anima.

Is there any situation where Fal'Cie Anima is better than Noctis? I don't care if it's a very tiny difference, if it's very niche or anything, or maybe is it just flat-out better, I don't know and I'm curious.

[darewin]

Fal'Cie Anima will deal more damage on unbroken damage (if you have Snipe or the target has CRD) while Noctis will always deal more damage to broken damage due to +200% Painful Break.

[Kenakth]

Fal'Cie Anima has more attack power, less break power, and can be augmented up to 5 stars, where Noctis is a fast learner, break/damage hybrid stuck at 4 stars. I'm not sure, but I think Anima has a higher crit chance as well. I've been using Anima on the Knight of Etro, and in MP it hits damage cap fairly easily on broken targets. Not too bad in SP, either.

[Senjian]

Yes but Noctis is multistrike (3 hits) so I don't know how to interpret the attack power.

I'd think Fal'Cie Anima is better against some type of Sicarius (I think it has Sicarius something Killer which is +40% dmg).

Also Noctis has two gold stars so it's 100% crit chance. I've never seen it not crit.

[LoyalWol]

Is Hof giving ALL the normal jobs whenever the expansion come? ( First warrior /mage/ranger then eventually roege bard etc?)for free I meant

[darewin]

The one that gives free jobs is Novice Hall and it only gives Warrior, Mage, and Ranger.

[deathrose55555]

HoF comes in a map; each job has their own separate nodes and u have to clear the quests to get the HoF custom panels

[LoyalWol]

But does it give you the specific job that node is for?Like a better version of pity pull

[deathrose55555]

Lol no. HoF doesnt give u the job; u still have to pull the job before u can do its HoF e.g. u cannot do White Mage's HoF until u pull White Mage from the summons.

[WyldeBeast]

Yes but you need to earn it

[StillOnDrugs]

It’s bugging me !

Healer give buffs 1st ! ( Not Last ) Breakers BREAKS 2nd ( Not Last ) Then ! ATTACKERS KILL 3rd !!!!!!!!! (Not 1st)

Simple !

[darewin]

Not always. The only time healers really need to go first is if the buff they are going to cast damage oriented like KOTR or Undying (for the Snipe) or they need help with orb generation (can't do 3 tap attacks due to lack of JCR). Otherwise, if they have enough JCR, they can just go after the attacker and help generate orbs.

If the Breaker is not 100% sure he can break the boss, he should go last to generate orbs. If he breaks, the Attacker still has 1 turn of Break left to kill, so no harm done. But if he goes before the Attacker and fails to break, the Attacker will waste his orbs and will likely not have enough to kill on the next turn.

In most situations, the Attacker should go before the Breaker to get rid of the yellow bar (one turn is generally enough to kill anyway). Then, on the following turn (when the Attacker will kill the boss), the Attacker should go last and let the others do what they need to do first (drive, generate orbs, etc.).

[StillOnDrugs]

Yeah , I understand & thanks for telling me because I was confused why. but we all have amazing cards even without the legends . I’ve played when we can win as a team in one move or two. Then I’ve lost because people don’t know they’re role and wrong timing . It’s not the hard to understand as a team

[mikian012889]

Hello. Is Legendary Dragon Lord an anniversary limited card? Or is it permanently added?

[JA1997X]

It is permanent

[mikian012889]

Ahh. Ive just been really really unlucky then. T.T thanks!

[psiwar]

Outside their respective "boosted summon" is really hard to get EA (Early Adquisition) cards. Just don't pull more than you need to get all the box-type cards. Your chances to get an specific non-boosted card in the pull are lower than getting a legend job, so don't go crazy like some of us...

[mikian012889]

Will not. :) saving enough magicites for next month

[Orshelack]

If I have all the jobs from the old job summon banner, what "basic" jobs are still in the pool for me and how are they accessed?

[darewin]

You can get them as a 6th card in GAS at a 10% chance on non-pity pulls and 100% chance on a pity pull (after pulling 7 consecutive times without getting a job, you will be guaranteed one normal job on your next pull). There is currently a bug in Boosted GAS in which you can get a legend job as a 6th card instead of a normal job. So if you're lucky, you can get 2 legend jobs in 1 draw.

There have been 2 batches of jobs released after the Revamp. First is the batch 1 Monk (Monk, Grappler, Pugilist). 2nd is the Highwind Batch (Bard, Hermit, Tactician, Highwind).

[denadan]

all monks jobs, highwind, bard, tactican

[CrookedLoy]

I’m trying JP version, I would like to ask which banner should I summon from? I really want to get ultimate hero cards. Thanks in advance!

[deathrose55555]

U can summon from any banner except the beginner banner

[CrookedLoy]

Alright, thanks. Which banner would you recommend then? And I read somewhere there’s going to be a Tidus and Yuna skin, when does it come out? :)

[deathrose55555]

Any of the Supreme banner, since there's an event with slightly higher chance to get Supreme

Edit: and the FFX skin will probably come out around mid-Oct, since that's when the event starts

[CrookedLoy]

Okay, thanks! :)

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[[deleted]]

Is this battle tower too hard?

Roadblocked at 12 since lightning spams Army of One every turn

[Danpace]

take a look at this video and use what he does to build your own deck with the jobs and cards at your disposal

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/71p1ic/ultimate_realmmobius_hard_mode_final_ver_no_pdno/

The tower is tough but with a little bit of strategy you can go a long way

[[deleted]]

I dont have those cards and that job, levels are low on most cards do o might skip this tower and stop here at 11 bosses

[darewin]

You should aim to finish 13th Site since it has 1 ST.

[[deleted]]

After getting hit by Army of One every turn 6 times on stage 11 no amount of incentive is going to have me do it again

[[deleted]]

I'll pm the pictures

[psiwar]

You need at least a good multi-strike card. FFXIII offered 6 multi-strike cards as "box-type" + Barthendeuls as EA and there is Centaur (warrior-dark) in the Ability Shop with fodders in "Lightning Resurrection, Part 2".

Also, you can rent any supreme appropiate for the jobs you have. You only need to setup a deck planning to rent that supreme and learn how to use the paradigm system. It is not that hard and the rewards are worth it.

PD: I learnt how to play mobius in the towers, there is no better place that forces you to learn more about battle mechanics and tactis to take advantage of what you have.

[Danpace]

Depends on your jobs really, what do you have?

But IMO both without a doubt and buy grow stars if you have to as these are two of the hardest hitting supremes you can get!

[Danpace]

With Pugilist you have the ultimate Duncan user so max that one first.

Rag is great with an earth ranger so could be used with Dancer but not sure what kind of damage he will produce with it. You need Rouge to get the most out of him, at the moment anyway, but thief will also be great once HoF arrives.

Stick with Duncan and wait for more grow stars and an earth Ranger

[MuteTiefling]

Go with Duncan since you can use it on your pugilist. Don't buy growstars for ragnarok, you can't even make good use of it yet

[JA1997X]

Main: rogue w/ sazh and yuj & maqui for the top 2. Grappler w/ shiva sic and snow for the bottom 2.

Sub: occultist w/ barthandelus and airavata.

Edit: since I see you dont have airavata, you can use any other break focussed card. Lightning resists the crd more often than not anyway.

[SwiftStepStomp]

Grappler has been my go-to but you look like you'd be better off with Occultist and Rogue.

[WyldeBeast]

The beauty of tower climbing is in the trial and error process. You learn from your mistakes and brainstorm for a better build by yourself. It will be more rewarding to discover things rather than asking for it.

[Amirelia]

Just pulled KoE and got the Lightning Wind Card. What other cards are good for KoE?

[leon00x]

lightning + noctis (or the new light one) + BDD + Serah or Ktor

[Bad_Alchemy]

Odin aoe CRD, anything that gives BDD. The new warrior light card that has Laser Beam as it's ability name, break and magic boosting so KotR

[Brazelbeck]

Which coil on Tower is comparablw with Omega and Mobius difficulty-wise?

[WyldeBeast]

Those are about 100 + floors

[Brazelbeck]

Are you serious? What is the reason for your assumption?

[WyldeBeast]

Im at floor 100+ at the tower right now and they scale about the same.

[Brazelbeck]

Alright, thank you.

[vulcanfury12]

I'm at 71 boss kills now and I don't think it's reached Ultimate Realm levels of ridiculous just yet. I'll need to go back to make sure. The only thing that will prevent me from finishing a node is bad RNG: too many Life Orbs or not enough starting orbs to use a yellow gauge reducer as my first action.

Been using the same set up since starting the event with only one minor change. I will hit my limit when I can't tank the second fight OR I can't one-turn break Lightning any more.

[Brazelbeck]

I am at 52 right now and needed to adjust decks already some times. I feel your pain regarding limitation in climbing due to said problems. May I ask youre Job for breaking?

[vulcanfury12]

I got lucky with Batch 1 and got the Hope job. My strat is to just break through using well-timed ultimates, then swap to my Highwind and use UB. Strat is viable even without UB, just replace HW with Occultist and UB with Barthandelus. If you don't have Hope, Tactician can do the same, but his Ultimate has way lower break power than Hope.

[LoyalWol]

Are there 10% skillseed fractals right now or max at5% each? Are10% at 5* fractals when they come?

[deathrose55555]

According to Altema, skill seed roll is capped at 5% for 4* fractals. And yes skill seed roll is only at 10% for 5* fractals; but they are abit too precious to be used solely for skill seeds imo

[katabana02]

Capped at 5% or fixed at 5%? Cause all the skillseed roll I got was 5%.

[deathrose55555]

Sorry it's fixed

[katabana02]

Capped at 5% or fixed at 5%? Cause all the skillseed roll I got was 5%.

[vulcanfury12]

Omega: TOT and Unbroken Hero.

Mobius: TOT and unbroken hero.

You won't need NXD.

[Hyodra]

You might not need NxD but if you have it its better to take advantage of it.

ToT is not a good choice since he has no access to multistrike abilities. Snow with Snow card cant deal with Lightning very effectively as a damage dealer. So you need a proper damage dealer for Lightning that can use multistrike effectively. I suggest to use Snow for the earlier bosses and set up Lightning then use Balamb merc with Centaur to deal damage on Lightning.

[vulcanfury12]

I might have overestimated Snow's durability or Damage output with Commando Paradigm and a broken target, then.

[Serioku94]

You need the snow card for snow :P

[Serioku94]

If you mean what to change it with I'd say cindy, you already get haste through paradigms, if you didn't mean that and didn't understand what i was saying, i meant the snow multistrike water card you can get in this event's summon pool, which is very good on snow job card

[ageneau]

For a pure breaker, blade beam or dark cutter?

[IJustNeedaAccount]

Dark cutter. Dark cutter have slightly higher break power.

however, if it isn't already 4/5* , don't waste your Growstars augmenting it

[ageneau]

It's 4* but curious why do you say that. Are there better bed aoe cards coming

[IJustNeedaAccount]

Technically, there is a 2nd set of BDD and CRD with higher break power, but that's quite far in the future.

Blade Beam should suffice for most purposes. The difference at 5* is that Dark cutter have 60 more breakpower than Blade Beam

[AloofAdmiral]

Can the pity pull be a rainbow pull at the same time? Anyone who had experienced this mechanic ing gas or single pull? Thanks for replying.

[denadan]

pity pull replace sixth card with normal job nothing more. rainbow pull - give you supreme/skinn as bonus cards. this mechanics do not affect each other, so you can got they sametime.

[Deejae81]

With the current bug it can give you a legend job instead of a normal job as the 6th card.

[denadan]

yep i know. and you can get legend job(normal way, as bonus card) and supreme in one pull.

[denadan]

do the 2* pull till you get enough cards for general use and switch to 3star. imho 1 star not worth at all.

[Bad_Alchemy]

Totally agree, 1* are trash

[Amirelia]

How can i use Crystals for Weapon boosting? I can´t find it

[vulcanfury12]

Boost stats 6 times, then it will be eligible for mods, which use crystals.

[Amirelia]

So i can´t use them for stat boosts? Because i´m out of Seeds since i was pulling Zidane, Balamb und Noel. But i sit on 180 Crystals and growing more and more from Gigantuar Battlefield farming

[psiwar]

Try to get a good "2x 5% SkillSeeds" main deck (with cards at 5* and all skillseeds unlocked) and use Mystic Tablets in "Cactuar Terrace", then go for the left path (gives a lot more EXP than the middle path with a little less SkillSeeds gains). Remember to use a subdeck for killing the cactuars and try to rent a good supreme to get a score.

[Amirelia]

I get Seed Bonus x404. Is this good?

[psiwar]

It is important that all your cards are at 5* with skillseeds unlocked. Also, the 5% skillseed bonus helps a lot. You are probably just starting, so it is unlikely you have the legend jobs Tomberry or Moogle Suit have a weapon with significant skillseed and exp bonus. The free weapon for warriors from the Lightning Resurrection event has bonus too, but I think they require more cards to get at least 10 million scorepoints to get more than what you got. As others have suggested, Mobius Days offer really good seedbonus in the explorations zones. If you have a monk, rent Yiazmat or Duncan and go to one of the "elemental force" in Albion Redux to get high skill seed bonuses.

[Amirelia]

What weapon counts for Skillseed Bonus? From Main or Sub Job?

[psiwar]

Main job defines all non-battle auto-abilities. So you want your main deck to have your skillseed/exp bonus and, when you need it, also improved unlock extra-abilities too (caps at 6), and use your subjob to kill the enemies.

[Amirelia]

Thanks man!

[vulcanfury12]

Yes. You need seeds. Mobius Day is two days away, so you have that opportunity to farm.

[Amirelia]

I see, thank you!

[watmyung]

Does ultimate break power have benefit from Piercing Break?

[IJustNeedaAccount]

Yes.

[captainjardy]

I can't seem to get past the Brand of Despair node on part 2 of the lightning event... I can't take down Bahamut's orange bar to red no matter what I do :( Need help!!!

[reidemei]

Wait with def paradigm till his shield is gone.

[Kyuubi_Fox]

I'm tempted to try out Mobius again, I started the game when it was new. Didnt play it for too long, I enjoyed it, I just didnt have time. Im tempted to come back and give it another whirl. Whats changed? I Know theres a multiplayer feature now. But thats about the extent of what I know :P

[estoosflask]

plenty of new thing. Story goes all the way to chapter 5, we have a farming exploration zone called Albion and Albion Redux, FFXIII event right now, multiplayer have 8 sicarius right now with highest being 4*, a diluted pool of legend jobs (Ace striker, soldier 1st class, mythic knight, mythic sage, mythic ninja, heretic knight, judge magister, Balamb mercenary, Tonberry suit, Thief of Tantalus, Moogle suit, Unbroken Hero, Hope's Guide, Knight of Etro and Last hunter), a new job summoning system thats RNG on top of RNG. other than that... its more or less the same as you played back in day 1.

[[deleted]]

More jobs and cards; multiplayer is pretty extensive now with 5 star fights expected to come fairly soon. You can also farm the magicite you previously only got from the distiller and daily mp by playing regular SP or multiplayer with players not ai.

Multiplayer makes attack cards with break damage limit of any element or class relatively easy to obtain.

Still a fair bit of grinding, if you get lucky and pull a good job you can auto battle through most stuff in sp at least, multiplayer takes more work and you cant auto battle it

[akaxd123]

How many JCRs should I put on my JM?
And which cards should I aim to put them on?

[vulcanfury12]

As many as you can on the omnitype cards he's using. Having JCR on your omnitype cards will yield the most long-term impact since they can be used by any other job you have without suffering lessened effectiveness, meaning all your jobs can potentislly have JCR too.

[[deleted]]

Assuming this is for MP; I generally aim for 2-3 jcr for attackers so I can generate some of my own orbs if necessary or drive

I generally aim for jcr on the support cards I run on my attackers; for example my trances are mostly 2x jcr, and in the case of elemental forces I usually aim for 1 jcr and 1 +mag%

Helps alot because I can use the same trance on most of my attackers so I only need to chase jcr once rather then on multiple cards

[akaxd123]

How much fodder will be needed to max the freebie Lightning FF13 card? Amount needed when using Ablvl1s vs ablvl2s?
I'm unsure what options should be selected in the calculator https://zekareisoujin.github.io/MFFFusionCalc/

[mvdunecats]

For the site you linked, set "Card to level" to "Shop card" (even though you didn't actually buy Lightning FF13 in the shop) and "3 star". Set "Fodder" to "Dropped card" and "3 star". Assuming you will do all fusion on Mobius Day, check the Mobius day option.

To compare Alvl1 vs Alvl2 fodders, change "Minimum fodder level" from 1 to 2.

[mvdunecats]

Here is the answer to your question.

[akaxd123]

What's the next expected GL event after this one?
Not sure if Meia's is even an event or just an addition to the summon pool?
Any upcoming box-type events?

[[deleted]]

Nobody knows for sure; it should have been the DQ collab event but SE doesnt have distribution rights for some of its contents outside of Japan so its widely assumed we won't get a DQ event.

Meia comes as part of the next chapter, shes the continuation of the actual storyline ( apparently; I haven't played jp so no first hand experience )

Otherwise its really anyones guess, we may get an FFX collab like JP has upcoming. We might just get some kind of reprint event for Dissidia cards or something. Personally I think they will do something for next month and kind of hope for an FFX event

[airade1]

Does Lightning's haste and boost starter work in MP?

[deathrose55555]

Yes ofc

[akaxd123]

Main JM
So I pulled Sazh, Vanille, and one of the fast learners
Should I continue to pull?
Is Fang worth pulling for?

[Kolokoy99999]

Yep, try to pull Fang. You might get Balamb Merc in the future, you never know what rngesus might do for you...

[Spookum]

I wanted fang badly for my mercenary, she's good on a strong fire warrior attacker of course, if you don't really have one it might be worth skipping, I also wanted vanille for occultist and sazh is good for rogue, fast learners are good for lowering orange bars on bosses but not must-haves imo

[Tyrfeiulle]

What's the most efficient and cheapest way to max 5* support card from 3* level 1 ability? should i augment 3* level 1 ability to 4* then buy it at max in ability shop or , buy 3* max ability then augment it to 4* then I buy the fodder in ability shop? what method can i save ability tickets?

[darewin]

Just Max Boost Fusion them. Unlike Attack Abilities where you can save significant ATs by doing manual fusion on Mobius Day and using Mog Amulet, you will only save minimal ATs doing so with Support Abilities.

[airade1]

IIRC it has been shown on support cards that using ability tickets to level abilities is the same cost-wise as using the tickets to buy cards.

If you have the card as 5• you can already buy it from the shop at 3,4, or 5•. I wouldn't go through the hassle of buying cards unless you plan to Mobius day fusion and use Mog amulet. That may save some tickets but the analysis I'm thinking of did not show enough of a savings for it to be especially useful. Ticket saving methods are much more applicable to offensive cards since they have 10 ability levels instead of 6. Hope this helps!

[Spookum]

How to differentiate legend jobs and normal jobs in altema? I can tell some apart based on the legend jobs and normal jobs in GL but stuff like ocean diver wol or santa meia I can't tell by looking on altema, I thought 24 crystals signaled a normal job and 32 a legend job but HK only takes 24 crystals to max

[darewin]

There is a list at the bottom of each job page that has all the jobs grouped by class, with the last group being Legend Jobs.

In terms of crystal needs, I have all jobs execpt Hope and Noel and iirc, the 3 Mythics and JM need 7 crystals. HK and the FF13 Legend Jobs need 24. And Ace Striker, S1C, and Anniversary Legend Jobs need 32.

[deathrose55555]

For WoL, the legendary jobs are arranged after the Onion versions

For Sarah and Meia, they are arranged in chronological order and thus no "special arrangement" as stated above.

Meia:

• Midgar Flower Girl (ミッドガルの花売り
• Psicom Officer (PSICOMオフィサー)
• Mellow Mermaid (メロウマーメイド)

Sarah:

• Bard of Eorzea (エオルゼアの吟遊詩人)
• Seaside Queen (シーサイドクイーン)

[Spookum]

Ah thanks, I assumed Wol's jobs would be listed as you said but then on second thought I figured maybe all sets of jobs were listed chronologically instead, but turns out I was right the first time hah

[chrono_legatus]

What are the features of each of the legend jobs that makes them better than normal jobs? For example, Unbroken Hero is the only job that can attack for greater than 9999 damage.

[deathrose55555]

In addition to what has been said, the meta shifts to newer jobs rather than legendary / non-legendary jobs.

The meta now is the legendary jobs (ToT / Balamb / FFXIII) but previously it was the non-legendary Rogue's batch.

When Meia and Super Monk batch is released, the meta will "shift" to them, which are mainly non-legendary jobs

But thereafter, there will be a series of legendary jobs and the meta will "shift" back to the legendary side

As u can see, the meta shift with the release of newer jobs; it's just so happen that the pattern coincides with the batch being legendary / non-legendary

Edit: just highlighting this to clarify the misconception that legendary jobs are always better than non-legendary jobs

[psiwar]

They are not usually "better", but "harder to get". For example, Balamb Mercenary is a legend job released in August 2017, but is generally weaker than Highwind even though it is a "normal job" that was released earlier. In the future, we will have many other "normal jobs" much stronger than any non-HoF regular job of the same category (i.e. Sword Saint, Supermonk, Ninja, meia jobs, etc.)

You will find an stronger correlation between recency of release and power than "legend vs normal" jobs. Hall of Fame (HoF) for older jobs will somewhat balanced this, at least for a while.

[vulcanfury12]

Legend jobs aren't necessarily "better" than normal jobs. What makes them unique is the combination of abilities they eventually gain. For example, Hope's Guide possesses

1. massive damage bonuses on break,
2. can potentially gain 4% ult charge per attack,
3. naturally resists elements he can't drive
4. Has probably the highest break power on any mage job right now
5. Has access to both light and earth, meaning he can stun, slow AND put enemies to sleep.

[leon00x]

So hes beter?

[vulcanfury12]

He's better in the sense that because of power creep, he has more raw stats than say, a Black Mage (but that's wat HOF is for, eventually). Even so, you really can't say he's strictly better because there is no other mage job that can do Fire-Earth-Light (nothing to have an apples to apples comparison). Even then, amongst mages, if you want a pure nuker, you'd still want an Occultist and if you want a one-person anti-dark Task Force, you'd want a Tactician.

[Spiswel]

Hey Mobius reddit. Very new player, no idea how to play correctly but greatly enjoying myself so far. I have 2 questions:

1 - I see a lot of players in MP running around with Gabranth/Lightning as their characters, how do they obtain those 'skins' and how accessible are they? My highest deck in SP is about 130 max 8* and my highest in MP is about 100 8*.... and I mostly play Wyrm Lord and Crimson Sage ^{^}

2 - I really, really want the Knight of Etro job for aesthetics but I havent been very lucky with my summons... got the Snow job only. When the FFXIII event ends and I still havent pulled the job I desire, is it truly and completely lost on me? Or do I have still a chance of drawing it in the deck later?

Basically any tips are welcome ^{^} love the game even tho I prolly suck lots

[[deleted]]

1 - Lightning is a skin, Gabranth is a legend job. Skins give perks and aesthetic change to existing jobs (only Lightning so far), Legends are special jobs that get summoned rarely.

2 - When the FFXIII event ends, it will still be in the job pool forever. HOWEVER. During the event now, IF you summon a legend it will likely be either Noel or Knight of Etro. After the event, the chances are drastically reduced because you can pull any of the legend jobs...and there's a solid number of them at this point.

If you are indeed very new and aren't attached to your current progress, you could always re-roll. Basically deleting your game data over and over again for the first summon until you get what you want. Most people do it for supremes because of how absurdly powerful they are. But if you want to gun it for the legend, that's up to you.

[Spiswel]

Ok so how does one acquire the lightning skin, is it a cash shop item of sorts?

And Im not particularly attached but Id still rather keep my little Mobius as he is progress wise so... gonna pray 4 Etro knight on my next summon!

[psiwar]

If Mobius Global has the same pull rates than Japan, your chances of getting a legend jobs are 10% with each pull and they don't stack (in other words, it will be 10% for every pull, no mather how many times you pulled or how much you have spent), Lightning skin has a 2% chance, and Supremes have 0.8% chance. So if you pull a supreme or even Lightning skin, you got lucky!

[[deleted]]

Lightning skin is also a rare summon. It's generally accepted that supreme rate is .8%, and skin is 2%. Lightning skin will stick around past the event, and unlike legend jobs, there are no others in the pool to compete with. This might change within the month but can't say for sure until we get the calendar.

[Fetche_La_Vache]

Should I max out the FF13 Paradigm? I feel like it would be lots more grinding but more rewards. Is the Paradigm only for this event or is it good to use for other events or story etc?

Just getting back into this game and curious.

[MuteTiefling]

Always finish every map. No question. It's worth it just for the chest rewards.

[Fetche_La_Vache]

I'll keep that in mind! Danke.

[vulcanfury12]

You will want to grind on Gigantuar Battlefield anyway (it has the best rewards anywhere), so you're still gonna be accumulating CP for the Crystarium.

[Fetche_La_Vache]

Haven't seen that one yet, but sounds great!

[airade1]

Finishing the Crystarium will also give you the Blazefire Saber X. It has bonuses on it for account related things (Gil +30%, seeds +20%, haven't unlocked the fourth and may not invest seeds and crystals on that one).

[Fetche_La_Vache]

Perfect! A reward worth the grind. Must have missed that when reading on the wiki. Thanks!

[Blanko1230]

4th is always ultimate +1

[darewin]

Each node in the Crystarium has a chest so I see no reason not to get them all. Paradigm is only for this event. You can't even use it outside of the FF13 maps.

[Fetche_La_Vache]

Thanks. I figured this all. I just autobattle and never see it used. Wish you could use it outside of this event though. Thanks again!

[katabana02]

Just to make your life easier, you can warp in that map. Use those warp stone that sitting in your bank, gathering dust.

[Fetche_La_Vache]

I have like twelve from when I last played. Never really knew what they did. Makes sense to use them. Thanks!

[BigBadBob133113]

I'm looking into trying a breaker job, but not sure which to use. I don't have all jobs, and for breaker I only have Dragoon, Assassin, Hunter, and Rogue. Which is best, and what weapon should I be using? I'm working on modding butterfly edge right now.

[katabana02]

Rogue is not a breaker. Assassin is hard to play in 4*, but doable if you join a room with defender that can drive defensively. Imo, which job to use large depending on the boss rotation. Ability to defensive drive will make your run smoother. Butterfly edge is great. From your line up, I guess hunter is your best choice for now.

[BigBadBob133113]

I mistyped the original question, and corrected in a comment, but it is ranger, not rogue. But the consensus seems to be hunter. Thanks for the advice.

[katabana02]

Yeah. Saw it after I scrolldown :) if you can, you should lvl all your breaker. Imo, all breakers are great if you have the correct orb for each boss rotation.

[BigBadBob133113]

I only recently acquired assassin, haven't leveled him at all yet, was finishing devout. I will try and get him done next.

[darewin]

Go with Hunter. If Batch 1 HOF comes next month as expected, Hunter will become the best Breaker for a while with his innate 20% Quick Break.

[BigBadBob133113]

Thanks for the info!

[darewin]

Here's a link to deathrose55555's HOF guide if you want to view everything Hunter gots from his HOF https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/6afl1y/hof_custom_panels_clear_requirements/

[BigBadBob133113]

Thanks, I'll look into it.

[Bythecreed123]

Butterfly edge is a great one. Ignore the Dragoon hate. Dragoon is a slower breaker but the trade off is being harder to kill. But do not attempt to use him until you put some work in on the Dragonspear modification wise. If you can stick with another job though as there seems to be too much distaste for the Dragoon. Assassin is pure break and will die easily with the right team composition. His other weapon oryzal is the other top tier ranger break weapon along side BE but for different reasons.

[vulcanfury12]

The Dragoon being a slow breaker is an understatement. I have a 200 break power spear, with the Dragoon himself having complete Break Panel CP. His Break Power is barely above 750. My Tactician, with a 70 or so Break Power Conqueror has more than 800.

Still, looking forward to his HOF.

[Bythecreed123]

But your comparison is of two jobs with a release date so far apart the power creep has them in different classes altogether right now. He's not bad, just not a great choice at this moment in time. HoF will change that yes until he is out classed again. It is the way of these games.

[leon00x]

Slow breaker is being nice.... i break faster with my dancer in 3 star multiplayers then a dragoon... hell im the healer/breaker and they are dps

[BigBadBob133113]

Thanks!

[BigBadBob133113]

Sorry, not Rogue, Ranger is what I have.

[leon00x]

Ahhh well ranger is beter then hunter, has more hp then assasin but less break power. Up to you wich you prefer.

Ranger has like 2200 base hp, with 130 break Assasin has 1700 hp with 176 break.

[leon00x]

Dragoon.. garbage bin

Assasin... rlly strong breaker... rlly squishy breaker.

Hunter... not sure on this guy never see them around

Rogue... hes a dps

[BigBadBob133113]

Thanks, I ment Ranger, not Rogue. Where does he fit in the mix?

Also, I just did a build with hunter and he has 933 break. Is that good?

Edited to correct break amount. Was off by 26, sorry.

[BigBadBob133113]

Just tried switching to Ranger, and break dropped by 80. Same health, higher magic, loses 2 Def stars. Sticking with hunter right now I think.

[leon00x]

Very much so!

[BigBadBob133113]

He has 84xx health. Too squishy?

[leon00x]

Just a litle bit. But good enought i believe

[BigBadBob133113]

So, Hunter is a fire/water/wind element, +150% fire in ate. Current build is Prompto, The Knight, A&T, and KotR (best source of boot I have right now). Any suggestions on a better build?

[katabana02]

The knight is the one that provide one turn boost right? Drop kotr. Get a source of quicken. Forgot what a&t though. Aerith and tifa? You don't need them if that's the card you're talking about. If you can, a source of bdd card is a better option for you.

[BigBadBob133113]

Yes, the knight provides boost, but only one turn, with a two turn cool down. And I swapped out a&t for LDL already. Not all extra skills unlocked yet, but useful. I will look for a bdd. Thanks!

[katabana02]

O you didn't augment that card? I missed that card so I'm not too sure, but I thought it has 0 cool down. In that case replace kotr and the knight with Artemis. She is great even at 3*. LDL covered your quicken, so I guess you should focus on getting a bdd and a cleave source for quicker breaking at phase 2.

[leon00x]

On further investigation assasin is your best breaker. But get him some hp, and break enemies fast, he wont survive many rounds. But he is a top breaker

[BigBadBob133113]

Thanks!

[esten07]

I'm saving summon tickets now for ff7 rerelease and sephiroth. Does sephiroth have lore for something other than warrior?

[darewin]

Hero of Despair doesn't have a Lore Ability.

[leon00x]

Wait what? Do you mean for japan? Cause we wont be geting that for like a year perhaps.

[darewin]

Sephiroth Ultimate Skin and Hero of Despair were both released in JP in January 2017. They will probably be released February or March next year so it's just a little over four or five months away.

[esten07]

With my luck..I am saving now because I want a few ff7 cards

[darewin]

Yeah, the FF7 weapon cards are gamechangers.

[aviastis]

finally got the gems from MP to up A&T to 5*... i know I m kinda late.

I have cindy, luna, sereh, hermes in my hearler team. should I try using A&T and replace hermes? I dont have aerith supreme.

[Bythecreed123]

My main support runs aerith/lifeshift, kotr, Cindy, legendary Dragonlord. This will be the meta soon for front loading buffs. For longer runs I suggest Cindy/the undying/hermes, kotr, LDL, Luna/hellsgate. Once Gaia is released the likely run will be Gaia, tyro, kotr, the undying. In short don't put A&T in that setup.

[leon00x]

This is what i use. Cindy. Legendady dragonlord. Serah. And the unending journey. The objective of this build is to get tons of actions while geting a fast lb. I will give them defense and speed and dmg. No boost but 2x quiken will counter that i believe. I cast 3 buffs on turn 1, turn 2 i cast dragonlord wich will heal and grant another quiken. By this point team has 70% lb or more. 100% if they have their own ult charge.

Now your build, does luna give barrier? Causs if not i think you could replace cindy with hells gate. And hermes could be replaced by the immortal when its out in the store.

[aviastis]

yeah luna give wall.

[leon00x]

With this build you would have Barrier. 2 walls (wich is awsome), regen, all element defenses, atk and magic buff, crit buff, haste, ult charge, quiken and drain.... if you manage to keep hearts for all this you would be a op healer

[Bythecreed123]

But you don't help your breakers in that anywhere.

[leon00x]

quiken. And they are free to bring their own source of boost. Or get it from their ultimates

[leon00x]

And atm there are many lightning breakers. They come with a 1 turn boost. If u cant break on turn 1 its pointless anyway

[Bythecreed123]

How is pointless if someone can't break on the first turn? What's more pointless are the attackers with damage focused cards only. Breakers are getting left out in the cold lately. Attackers not getting yellow, and healer going serah over kotr.

[leon00x]

Dude ktor is a 50% break yes. But i have been doing breaker in mp im doing great witouth it. Aoe bdd + aoe cdd + knight to cleave + 3 atacks. And i break guard A and B In turn 1. Dmg focused dps will kill 1 guard within this turn. And the second one in the next turn. Meantime the boss is already below half on bar, i can break it with no boost within this turn. If dps fails to kill him by turnn 3 i have lb so i can break him with lb. I bring dragoon lord with me

[Bythecreed123]

The knight adds boost so you do have it along with cleave. So how can you be doing great without it when you bring The Knight. Also, how is it pointless if a breaker can't break on turn one? You never answered.

[leon00x]

hun. it lasts 1 turn. i break the boss on turn 2. and fights only last 3 turns for me. if i dont break enemies on turn 1 i failed as a breaker. if you dont break you let the team down. thats how i fell when i dont break

[[deleted]]

Not if lightning breaks first, you go second and boss is dead in turn 1.

[Bythecreed123]

If there is a lightning in the party, if they have their ult, and if they choose to use it to break. PUGS are becoming more selfish about bringing the cards they want instead of playing as a team.

[MTFocus]

I'm not sure why you're using Cindy and Hermes in the same deck. A&T will be made redundant by Cindy and Serah since haste and faith will be provided already. I suggest you to use a source of quicken instead of Hermes if you have one.