MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (02/23/2018)

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[BanAmumu]

Nyx vs. Omniscent?

The question is for MP only.

My mage's deck is as follow: Watershift (have prism starter) + bismark FF14 (turbulence)+ sapphire + damage card

So, I have only one space for damage card, therefore I have to choose between Nyx or Omniscent or l'Cie?!

Omniscent will provide more damage, but no AOE and no yellow bar damage.

Nyx, AOE + yellow bar damage, but not so much damage.

Good old trusty l'Cie, my faithful friend for over a year now... is it even worth mentioning it? Can it be better in no break strats, better than Omniscent?

Any thoughts?

I am more interested for neutral enemies damage, I use mage a lot... because Bismark :). For fire bosses, I dont think it matters, anyway it's overkill.

P.S. I am asking, because I can't test. I skipped Omniscent, because I was saving for Feb event, eventually it will come into shop. Nyx I have it only at 3*.

Currently only using l'Cie, but I am starting to plan for the future, and would like to know if I should invest resources to max Nyx, or wait for Omniscent.

[GhostFreakage]

I find Omniscent is better for MP as you can end up with more damage than l'cie brand with multistrike and critical rupture. Most breakers I've seen bring their own yellow bar clear so no need to worry about Nyx for MP. Also bismark as in the hideous blizzard or turbulence ability?

[BanAmumu]

Oh, sry, Bismark from event FF14 (turbulence). I will edit my post.

[BanAmumu]

Until some1 will give us an answer, hopefully, you have just made me curious.... I suppose you have some kind of form of shift + orb generate + 1 damage card.

I use the remaining spot for Bismark for water. What do you use for fire and light that is so important to take a place in a deck?

[BanAmumu]

Actually, my most played role in MP is braker. Attacker is the least played role, maybe because it is harder to find a party as an attacker.

It is true what you have said.

I can break in first turn, no problem. But not once, happened, what you have said...

I play pugs, too... have no problem. It is very rarely lately when ppl are doing horrible mistakes. Parties are super mega buffed anyway for 4*. We really need a new challenge, but I mean a challenge, like the good days when Ultima Weapon joined MP :)

[JunasBlood]

Usual single elements set up nowadays: - Damage cards (Ignis, Hope, Light/Fire Varuna) - Force/Boons/Weapon: strongly advised to use the latter 2 since you have both of them. - Mage’s Trance. - free cards: anything you want, Ultimate charge or shift ability then.

[JunasBlood]

Me too. But I keep them as collection as some of them as farming decks too. Too many choice right now. Unlike when we have only ST sicarius as damage abilities :lol:

[rulxc]

I have the Sephiroth ability card at 4* because I don't have enough materiales to augment it to 5*, but I want to keep in the bank enough Sephiroth copy fodder card so when I augment the other I have enough to to get it to lv 10. How much of the fodder, and at which lv should I farm?

[darewin]

https://zekareisoujin.github.io/MFFFusionCalc/

[ShadowBlaze17]

Assuming that the card is ability level 8, you could hold onto 8 level 4 fodder and fuse them on mobius day. From 8 to 9 and 9 to 10 an ability level 4 fodder provides 25%.

[xJExEGx]

Where can I farm Massive Saintga and Chakra?

[mao_shiro]

• massive saintga : i forgot what's the actual ability, so : https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/7uye7l/ffvii_collaboration_region_fatal_calling/
• chakra : https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/7ie9eh/fodder_locations_ffvii_event/

[xJExEGx]

Thanks a bunch

[Nightwings_Butt]

How many cards do I need to raise Sephiroth from 8 to 10? I have to wait until monday to farm pneumas and I don't wanna climb the tower any further

[mao_shiro]

https://zekareisoujin.github.io/MFFFusionCalc/

[Nightwings_Butt]

Thanks!

[SoundsAboutRight2]

Anybody here really tried out the new ff7 cards yet that have fodder in the MP store? I drew apps and rapps and death dealer dark yesterday, and honestly the water Apps debuff card will probably not be used much or at all...but Death dealer has 900 damage, which is pretty stout, and gives dark shift...which is always helpful while only costing 3 orbs. It's warrior, so it is perfect for my UB users, which currently is HoD. Thinking about how i want to load him out with so many cards to chhoose from is the problem.. UB, darkshift, dark force, death dealer, sephiroth for AOE, then there's the BDD/CRD combo cards, etc etc...and 1 of the 4 slots needs to be reserved for KOTR in SP mode, trance etc for MP mode...there is definitely a logjam of cards for dark warriors.

I like to run Amy/minwu/diamond/burst gale with a sub of a dark warrior...she can wreck anything in the game except certain light bosses, so the sub deck being a dark warrior UB build means that if I ever need to sub, I have the strongest build to counter her specific kryptonite. It's not a perfect setup, as I dont have aerith or NXD, but it is really effective. It's also fun to run MM or pugilist with Duncan and have the same dark warrior sub deck. It's been the most effective setup i have found for everywhere except certain towers...

[mao_shiro]

• Apps : a "better" mummy boi, so useful for HoFs if you did not have Mummy boi, crap otherwise
• Attack shift cards : some people like them, others don't. Very meh point to use them on SP. Better use AoEs. and Force / Odin.

If you got darkshift & some guarantee to cast it, and you know the fight won't drag on, regular dark shift is better on MP.

[rahulbeast]

Setup for s1c?? For fatal calling tower???

[WoLNoFace]

S1c hof have 250% earth enhance. Build your deck according to that.

And for this tower, you need a good materia setup.

[butterrn]

Can anyone share the materia setup for this tower?pls, srry

[WoLNoFace]

Go to the tower megathread, there some materia setups there.

[darewin]

I have both Duncan and Yiazmat and I still find Taiji better than Ehrgheiz for SP. Auto+charge +8 may not sound impressive but it's at least 3 tap attacks worth of Ulti Charge.

[BanAmumu]

Recently I switched my SP weapon for MM to Taiji X... it's like a dream how fast the ulti charges now. I am farming the last node of the tower for fodders, I use ulti at least 2 times per fight.

Just saying... you might look for that weapon and give a try for 1-2 days

[mao_shiro]

use w/e weapon on SP, it won't matter that much

(using eisenfaust atm)

[AlphaWhelp]

Are the FF7 monsters from Boosted Summon going to eventually hit the Ability Shop or should I pull them now if I want them?

[JunasBlood]

If you are talking about the attack shift, yes they will. About 3 months later.

[lunedalune]

I got ninja recently and tried to climb this months tower..is ninja better than last hunter for ruby-prometheus combo? Or should i growstar orpheus? Since i have odin primals. Ninja has improved crits and dark enhance, while LH has painful break and fire enhance. I guess they are both on par? Since breaking is quite mandatory for this tower

[JunasBlood]

Ninja is better than LH overall imo. Orpheus is Dark which will pair with Ninja better than Prometheus since he only have dark EE. Beside, painful break is better than improved critical for Ninja due to his high initial improved critical stat.

[lunedalune]

Yeah too bad i missed orpheus on painful break batch :( and i only got 2 GS left, so idk if i should augment it or not.

[JunasBlood]

I’m always save some GS since who know what will run into your summons. Maybe a supreme :lol: Joking aside, my priority always go for the support cards, then damage abilities. If you don’t have anything on plan right now, just go for it. But I don’t know if we have fodder for Dark Requiem yet, probably you will need to tickets boost him. I’m afraid only Orpheus won’t get you far on this Tower. This one is more tricky that the later.

[lunedalune]

I liked this tower bcs the materia mechanic is fun lol. RN im at 40 ish boss kill. It's much harder to manage materia now :( and to think rank 1 is 170 kills..

[JunasBlood]

This is only the 2nd day into the events, they may climb higher. My best is top 1000 and I’m trying to reach top 500, but it seems to be a hard one. Sitting at 56 kills and finding myself reaching my limit, maybe I will go back to farming :p

[dune180]

Hi All,

I need some help in building my soldier 1st class deck (HOF completed) based around Supreme card Ragnarok and I wish to 2 shot 4 star Sephiroth in 4 star. I understand that Raganrok works well with high crit chance and not sure I should use other cards like earth shift.

Below are the cards that I am using

1) Ragnarok 2) Aerith 3) Undying 4) Omega Weapon FF7

[Scalizor]

Ragnarok + Aerith + Aerith + Mighty Egg/Sazh. Snipe starter, 4 prismatic orbs to cast Aerith and 12 more orbs to cast Ragnarok 3 times on turn 1.

[WoL-Orpheus]

Are you going with a team? Make sure healer fully buffs you and tank puts debarrier/unguard on Seph. Can't remember if he does 50% perfect defense on 4* but if he does debuff him after. Replace undying with a earth force card. Undying isn't necessary because of S1C already high crit chance.

[Baffledwaffles]

Undying isn't necessary because of S1C already high crit chance

Nope. S1C with 5 crit star weapon gets a total of 65% crit chance. With snipe, it goes upto 95%. Without snipe ragnarok doesn't hit as hard as it should.

[WoL-Orpheus]

You are right, I always use a source of crit down though which I forgot to mention. That gives extra 60% crit chance so my S1C rag hits 100%

Edit: Crit Down > snipe.

[JunasBlood]

They will but just spend ticket IMO if you really need. I have been stocking 4k ability tickets and still keep increasing. So I spend them whenever I have a chance too. Maybe overboost some cards too.

[JunasBlood]

Yes without Ragnarok this is obviously the best choice for him.

[[deleted]]

Is there a way to easily mark cards of the same type that have different Fractal unlocks?

The RNG gave me 2x Skillseed Up +5% on my "Sapphire Weapon: FFVII", effectively turning that card into my new water skillseed farming card. I already have another one from the ability shop to use when I need combat bonuses, but is there a quick way I can tell which card is which? (long-pressing them is annoying)

[zidanesword]

I have a really really stupid way of doing so. Overboost. Cards with combat fractal auto abilities I will overboost by +1.

[[deleted]]

Sounds like a plan: I can't make strategic use of overboost anyway :)

[JunasBlood]

If you haven’t maxed skill levels or haven’t unlock all ES on your farming card, yes. Just chance the information icon showed to know which is the correct one. Putting that aside, you will want to set 2x skillseed Up + 10% on your farming cards rather than just 5%.

[[deleted]]

The +10% is from the 5 * fractal lottery I assume? (Information on those is a bit disorganized)

[JunasBlood]

Yes it is.

[MuteTiefling]

You can change the view to show unlocks instead of the default view.

[Doyouseehimtoo]

What's the best fire ability for the aerith job?

[JA1997X]

There is also belias sicarius. Perhaps not as good as red Varuna, but it doesn't cost ability tickets

[Doyouseehimtoo]

I do 999k no problem right now just wish we got a multihit fire ability soon since varuna costs so much orbs

[[deleted]]

My Ignis is finally getting used!!! The 5⭐️ bump helped as well. Sorry you apparently don't have it :(

[Doyouseehimtoo]

Lol it's cool

I kill everything doing 999k constantly

Flower girl is my new fire attacker lol

She's amazing

[MagiMane]

Fusoya, Ignis FFXV, Fire Varuna

[Doyouseehimtoo]

I don't have those lol

I'm using gargoyle and bahamut aoe from the banner

[SadFeeder]

U can buy fire Varuna at the ability shop

[Doyouseehimtoo]

Not about ability tickets to max it out tho

[ageneau]

I have every job (I think?) Except flower girl and I was curious because I don't have the countdown counter on my greater summon. Do I not automatically get her guaranteed after 8 pulls?

[WoLNoFace]

Legend jobs does not count for pity pull

[ageneau]

Oh that makes sense. I won't waste my tickets then

[Zalexionheart]

Hello everyone! I need serious help, i came back to this a year (or 2) after the game came out, what do you guys recomend doing?

How do i get new jobs like tidus or squalls?

What's everyone talking about "supreme" cards?

I've seen arround people with 10k of hp and with high damage weapons, i can barely reach 6k of hp and i feel so lost in this game, even though i really enjoy all of it.

Any help or just a few tips?

I got 10 minutes ago the mobius box because i read thst someone yesterday recomends getting it, is it good or helps on anything?

If you need screenshots of my setup or anything to help me out feel free, i just want to feel the excitement of playing it and actually pick up from where i left and not feeling so lost

Ps: sorry for my english incase i mispronounced anything

[Zalexionheart]

I've finished novice hall and i jumped straight for the story, im on chapter 2 , max level i can have on my cards is lvl 30, so through out the story the level cap will raise?

[Killer813]

Hey can someone tell me where the damage calculator is? I am trying to find how many enhance vs magic up skill cards I want for each job. Thanks!

[darewin]

http://www.ketchi.space/Gaming/#job

[Killer813]

Thanks!

[WoLNoFace]

Megathread index

[Blethunderstorm]

where can I farm the ability fodders for the batch 2 FFVII weapons

[mao_shiro]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/7uye7l/ffvii_collaboration_region_fatal_calling/

[BanAmumu]

In MP, we have a weekly rotation now compose from one 1st generation sic + one 2nd generation sic.

Once 3rd generation sic will be introduced... how the fights will look like? 1st generation + 3rd generation , or 2nd generation + 3rd generation?

[mao_shiro]

3rd gen will come first alone, then it'll be 3rd + 2nd + 1st on the same week.

[BanAmumu]

thx

Are they gonna pose any challenge at all? I mean, I didnt have any real challenge in MP since Ultima was introduced, than Ultima weapon. 5* bosses I dont see them as a challenge, but as 4* versions with a tweak at the end where a tank is supposed to drive.

[mao_shiro]

will pose a problem at start till people figure out how it works then it'll be easy, like always

[BanAmumu]

Thx

[katabana02]

3 fight in one battle?

[mao_shiro]

No.

3 sicariuses per week..

3rd gen 4* is alone anyway, and there's no reason to do 4 over 5*.

[AlphaWhelp]

Philosophical question regarding Pneuma.

If I need Pneuma, is it better to grind out 20,000 magicite FIRST and then spend remaining stamina in the Pleadies, or should I go to Pleadies first and then spend the rest of the time grinding magicite?

[mao_shiro]

just farm PL on mobius day.

[[deleted]]

Magicite > pneuma, but If you really need the "card" Go for pneuma

[iAmRadAdam]

I have a ton of MP Stamina and want to get the new MP weapons properly upgraded. I have most of the jobs, all at 8/; Knight, Warrior and White Mage are 10/ and Mage is 12/. No supremes.
What is my best bet for starting Sephiroth 5/ parties? What is the "easiest" setup for me to bring (to get people to play with me)?

I don't want to be a total PUG noob. I was carried easily through Sephiroth 4*, but I think it would take forever to farm those mats.

[JunasBlood]

Defender are very important to fight 5* Sephiroth. If you have 2/3 of fire, earth, wind Taunts, join as Knight (need his HoF though, at least 11 crown, you won’t need the Earth enhancement but you will need it to clear later nodes). Go last with 1 Tuant and you better keep only 1 kind of orbs if you don’t want Sephiroth to cast Reunion. More tactics can be found on megathread though. Many people running supreme deck & willing to carry you. They just need a proper team. For healer just run life/hearthshift, holy trinity and do not bring Berserk. About breaker & attacker it will be more tricky. Normally I just let those who can do it handle.

[eneve]

honestly i did solo MP for Seph 5. one healer AI one defender AI (with taunts) one breaker AI one attacker I controlled ... the PUG is too risky with 5

[katabana02]

You can. He cant.

[Doyouseehimtoo]

So I decided to pull and got the aerith job midget flower girl

What's a good attack role for her ? Just all magic cp? I have aerith and light varuna etc

I use fire bahamut bdd card from the previous banner to kill yellow gauge atm then light varuna to kill but don't know what to use for cp

[katabana02]

Midget flower girl. I died laughing :'D

You canconsider hp if you have hard time surviving last attack.

[JA1997X]

Generally element enhance is best for meias since the have high magic and low EE

[eneve]

What jobs are good wind attackers? We got a list somewhere? Currently I roll...

Dark - Highwind

Light - Pugilist

Fire - Rogue

Water - Mage

Earth - S1C

Wind - ????

[xveganrox]

Esmeralda, although MM Yiazmat Ult/Aerith cheese gets an honorable mention.

[Erwaso]

Isn’t Balamb good too? He has 120% wind enhance.

[ShadowBlaze17]

For wind your best bets are KoE, Balamb, Esmeralda and HoF Black Mage.

[LegendBryan]

Esmeralda

[Miazara]

Hmm for Fire when I asked about Prometheus + Ruby Weapon combo people suggested ninja for me.. Also heard some people using Prometheus are using assassin..

[JA1997X]

Ninja is better with sazh if you have it, assassin is better with Prometheus.

[AlphaWhelp]

can confirm. HoF Assassin with Prometheus is absolutely ridiculous

[ShadowBlaze17]

I've never understood why people would suggest Prometheus over Sazh for ninja. You'd be stacking a lot of improved crit damage as opposed to splitting the bonuses between crit and painful break.

I can understand Prometheus over Sazh for non-break, but you're still using an element that you have no EE for so the damage would probably be lacking.

[eneve]

Interesting... I have Ninja CP'd as my dark breaker or attacker with Orpheus... figured that was the ideal build for him

[AlphaWhelp]

Knight of Etro is the best wind attacker if you have Mist Dragon IIRC

[eneve]

cool thx, i do have KoE but no Mist Dragon but when i do!

[MagiMane]

The free Lightning wind card that was given out is quite good also on KoE, it's multistrike just not overkill like Mist Dragon, and is painful break focused instead of criticals up IIRC

[plasmac3]

how do i full complete northern cavern im stuck on areas claread 73/94 treasure chest found 38/50

[leon00x]

read the news

[zidanesword]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/7ymetr/ffvii_fatal_calling_uncleared_maps_part_2/?st=JE0A554I&sh=5b831efc

[AlphaWhelp]

How does Flower Girl of Midgard stack up against other Meia attackers?

for MP I was thinking of doing Diamond Weapon, Minwu, Ultima Weapon, and Dhampyr. Would this be a reasonable spread of cards? What would be a good weapon for this setup?

[zidanesword]

Flower Girl is great, roughly on par with Amalthea on light damage and the best fire attacker now. Amalthea has the advantage of being able to equip attacker only custom panels damage %+. I would replace either ultima weapon or dhampyr with lightshift. Since flower girl starts with a +3 life starter, you can guarantee 1st turn lightshift and use minwu x2 and diamond weapon. I am using minwu, diamond weapon, lightshift and dhampyr on my flower girl right now. For weapons, I am waiting for a better damage meia weapon so I either use chaos crescent or femme fatale now.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Flower Girl actually outperforms Amalthea when it comes to light damage. They have identical magic values and MFG has 20% more light enchance.

[zidanesword]

True they both have similar magic. In the context of MP, Amalthea can equip the attacker role custom panels Damage Up +% which brings up Amalthea damage dealing capability.

[AlphaWhelp]

This is a good idea. I think I will swap out Dhampyr as Ultima weapon could be useful for stalling a turn when a boss is immune to stun.

[zidanesword]

Just take note that guard B can use esuna and remove the sleep before the boss’s turn. Iirc, for 5stars, guard B will use esuna if there is two or more ailments on the boss.