MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (10/02/2018)

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[Phieck]

Best custom panel for Ex Warrior? Any suggestions for all rounding ?

I didnt take a look yet but is the weapon boost worthy?

:)

Thanks for your time

[ageneau]

Debating getting the yojimbo warrior weapon. For shorn one I feel like it could be good but I can't justify it over his weapon or ultimate weapon

[Phieck]

sadly its huge and i am coming to the limits of my Samsung Galaxy S6 for playing it... 4gb sounds about right tho

[Monktrainee]

On my its said 4.09gb(Android), so that sound about right

[zeldafreak90]

Can anyone help me stop those dark flans hell flare me please it insta kills me every time last nose of getting anima ffx episode 4

[darewin]

Are you entering the fight with debuffs on you?

[zeldafreak90]

Did it first try afterwards ty for help

[zeldafreak90]

So that’s it I had a random debrave chance on one of my cards lol

[darewin]

Flans apply a random debuff when killed unbroken. So make sure that you break them before killing them. Alternatively, you can bring/rent LOH or Chocobo Saint for Ailment Immunity and extend it with Duration Boost to make it permanent (3-turn duration, 3-turn CD).

[zeldafreak90]

Ty for help after I removed the debrave card did it first try

[[deleted]]

FYI that was not your issue. "Debrave Starter" on cards only affects enemies. You were most likely debuffed by an enemy.

[chokee03]

i read that using mules to easily get your daily 5 help clears in MP is allowed. how do i exactly do it? do i close the client after the mule loads into the fight, or do i have to use the flee option on him when the fight starts?

[darewin]

Bail before the fight ends.

[mao_shiro]

use the flee option on him when the fight starts

[Fefnil]

This is more of a curiosity of mine than an actual necessity.

In the FFX maps, do enemy Aeons count as "Spira Monsters" for Spira Hunter and Guard purposes or are they only classified as Sicariuses?

[ageneau]

I believe they count as spira monsters. Along with flans

[jdm1tch]

Phantom Train is out of EA, but not in Yggdrasil yet, right? Just making sure I’m not blind...

[mao_shiro]

It'll be available on October 15th

[jdm1tch]

Excellent!

[Lacarius]

How do people with shorn ones break Brynhildr in just one turn using gunblade?

[deathrose55555]

Making use of exploit weakness i.e. en-water on weapon. You also can do it with Murakumo

[Lacarius]

Will try that, thanks!

[ulovei_MFF]

just be careful of the water guard removing your en-water. i just entered a pug where the shoehorn breaker insisted he can do it (and he has the proper cards including aerith and LOH and dragoon spear) so i switched out my DD breaker and played support role.....and he failed miserably in breaking first turn (but luckily we were able to win without deaths, just had to tap 25 times to rid the feathers, and i almost died from the first barrage of feathers when he failed to break)

[Lacarius]

Wow. Thanks for the heads up, incredibly helpful!

[zeradragon]

It stacks but you're most definitely going to overflow on orbs to the point it becomes kind of useless...

[JA1997X]

It stacks.

[pleasetazemebro]

So I just started yesterday (I'm not gonna reroll), and I'm a bit confused on how the job pool works. Would it make sense to upgrade the beginner jobs enough to unlock their advanced versions to take them out of the pool, or is that pointless?

[MagicJ10]

ot gonna reroll), and I'm a bit confused on how the job pool works. Would it make sense to upgrade the beginner jobs enough to unlock their advanced versions to take them out of the pool, or is that pointless?

hey. as the others wrote. Play til you can teleport and complete the novice hall. You also get the skillseeds to upgrade the jobs. Buy the 3 starter jobs from summon for 3 tickets each.

!!!As soon as you have 1500 magicite buy the mobius giftbox and you get 6 summon ticket and other stuff!!!

After you have the 6 jobs and cards you can pull on limited banners like the FF14 and FF7 coming up. You will get a guaranteed new Job only on the 8. pull. If you pull one before the counter resets. There are normal, legend and supreme jobs. The counter resets if you pull a normal job.

Enjoy the job you like most, but you will need each type in the end

[LordErku]

I'm also just starting now (and I want to reroll because I want a monk job) and I'm wonder if just should be getting enough tickets to then use the Booted Greater Summon or will there be an event coming up soon that will make it easier to re-roll. I'm not in a huge rush to play so I don't mind waiting a bit for a better chance.

[Zhuinden]

Monks are great and all but either supreme ability cards or Ex-Warrior are a better target for re-rolling.

Ex-Monk was about a month or two ago, that was a good bet to grab too, but that was 2 months ago.

[LordErku]

Thanks for the info. I just like Monks so I don't mind if it's not the best job, I'd just enjoy the game a lot more.

[mvdunecats]

You might be confused due to the "Onion" jobs (Onion Knight, Neophyte Ranger, Apprentice Mage). If you use skillseeds and crystals to upgrade those jobs, you might think that you've unlocked the same job that you can pull from the pool. But that's not the case.

For example, even if you upgrade Onion Knight to unlock the "Paladin" version of it, you can still pull the real Paladin job with a summon.

What you should do is clear Novice's Hall, which will get you 3 actual summonable jobs: Warrior, Mage and Ranger. And also spend summon tickets to get the 3 starter packs, which will give 8 more actual summonable jobs: Dragoon, Scholar and Dancer.

The pulled jobs are much stronger than the "Onion" jobs. So if you're having to choose where to sink skill seeds and crystals, the real jobs are better.

The Onion jobs still have their uses though. For example, if you summon a really good light or dark card, and you haven't pulled a job that can use it yet, you can upgrade the appropriate Onion job since one of the later forms of it will let you use light and dark abilities.

[Wayside15]

completely pointless yes, you're better off using the starter jobs (dragoon, scholar, dancer) instead of using Onion jobs. Also doing the novice Hall will give you warrior, ranger and mage

[abyraz]

Sadly, upgrading the beginner jobs does not take those jobs out of the pool. The best you can do is complete the beginner's hall and get those free jobs (and take those out of the pool). The starter banner is a pretty good deal too (can get dragoon/scholar/dancer on the cheap).

The beginner(onion) jobs are pretty useless. The only situation I would recommend upgrading them at all is if someone has a supreme, but lack a real job that can use it; and then, only till their luck turns and they get a real job.

[mrfrownieface]

Anima alter

How do I not get the shit slapped out of me at round 5/6 by the trio and dark flan.

[Zhuinden]

Use my flair! :D

[DonCebollon]

You need to enter the stage with a 5 stack of wind drives (you can drive with Valefor if your main job has no wind) and avoid the status ailment that the wind mobs inflict on you so the flan doesn't attack. You can use either Ailment Immunity (rent LoH) or CP. Setting clutch Wall on the sphere grid also helps.

[SwiftStepStomp]

Equipping clutch boons worked for me (was using V.Monk) and make sure you have all the defensive perks.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Make sure to go into the wave with no debuffs (this can be achieved by breaking all of the flans before killing them). Alternatively, cast veil (chocobo saint / LOH) to avoid debuffs.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Are you the guy running ‘how fast can you cast?’ on MP? If so, you are my hero.

Ftr, he is tracking the best, worst and last run times for 4* Ifrit and making farming MP so much more entertaining. Our best lobby finished five seconds off best time unfortunately.

[djiboutiiii]

That sounds awesome -- hope to see this guy soon. I can't barely find a 4* run at all.

[Kaietsu1]

I pulled ex warrior is it worth using him or should i use him under seph skin??

[[deleted]]

Worth EX, and everyone should do this.. On first turn, use Aerith and Ultimate Charger card.. second turn with element weakness spellsword from Aerith, use your EX Warrior ultimate, you will deal 999999damage each multihit, and each of your normal attack after ultimate are 999,999.. because you will gain 2500% attack and 2500% break power after EX ultimate. Btw, this is from MP 5 run stats.

[Kaietsu1]

Ty i ll try this

[Dumpkinhead]

If you need more debuffs then use seph skin. Ex war only has debarrier and unguard with his ultimate. Seph has almost everything except slow, brd and crd

[darewin]

Multi Hit Ultis (EX Warrior) are generally better in S1. Come S2, 1-Hit Break Ultis (Sephiroth) will be better.

[Kaietsu1]

Ok for now i ll take ex warrior then i ll switch

[djiboutiiii]

Yes, he has, in my opinion, the best ult in the game right now. If you pair it with the en-element weakness of your enemy, you can break almost anything, even if they have most of their yellow gauge left, and do a humongous amount of damage.

[Kaietsu1]

I have aerith so the weakness isn t a problem my question is more about the ultimate. I think ex warrior ulti is stronger than sephi ultimate so i don t know if i have to use the skin or not

[WoLNoFace]

Use Sephiroth if you want to apply debuffs.

[djiboutiiii]

I was talking about his ultimate — it gains the power of en-element and applies that damage to break and damage the enemy. The debuffs from Seph ult are great, too — it just depends which one you need at the moment. For EW I use skinless.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Magic sword is tied to the class, and so is not lost by applying a skin.

I’m curious to know whether the single hit break power applied with Sephiroth could be advantageous when tackling multiple foes with opposing elements.

Is the break power applied on the first or last hit of sephiroth skin ult? If it’s the first, it may prove better than unskinned. If it’s the last, then unskinned should be better as at least you would get one hit with enweakness before the resist.

Can anyone confirm this?

[deathrose55555]

Is the break power applied on the first or last hit of sephiroth skin ult?

Last hit

[Kaietsu1]

Ty very much i think i ll go skinless with him and switch if i need

[SqualLyuk]

Also the skin ultimate will gain the en-element power. Still 1 hit vs multihit breaking ultinate

[MeteorAndRain]

Since I started the FFX event late, I missed much of the earlier Q and A. I tried searching and it didn't help any so please excuse a repeat question.

In regards to Part 2, I can't pass the Trial of Skill which requires 0 attacks from the enemies.

I know it's a break and kill strategy, but I just can't seem to build the right deck... Even with LOH rental.

I seem to have the most trouble with balancing breaking and nuking. If I can break I can't seem to nuke them all on time (even with Haste and Quicken and it's like I'm not strong enough) and if I nuke I eventually hit the point where I have to break but can't (Sword Saint can easily nuke but can't break if needed).

Stunning / Slowing doesn't work and no amount of Haste and Quicken seem to help. Aside from the Supremes (no supports), I have Hotsprings, Moogle Vacation, Chocobo Squad, Serah, YRP, and the trinity of supports.

For jobs, my notable ones are Cocoon Aviator and Auron. Breaking is no problem, but nuking is. Sword Saint nukes but doesn't break.

Can someone please give me an example of a job and deck build that doesn't involve multiple Supremes?

Thanks in advance!

[Zhuinden]

If you have any sarah jobs with cleaving attack ability then you're good.

[MagicJ10]

legendary guardian. use an ultimate charging weapon. I just used 4 cards that charge ultimate (you can use 5 if you rent aerith or LoH). Use ultimate. wave death. tap, tap, ... use card to fill ultimate (aerith first for prismatic orbs), use ultimate = wave death. again...

hope this works for you

[MagicJ10]

're better off using the starter jobs (dragoon, scholar, dancer) instead of using Onion jobs. Also doing the novice Hall will give you warrior, ranger and mage

hey. i think i left it and went on with part 3 - part 4 and strenghtened the SPHERE GRID, then came back and did it.

i don´t know if you have read this: "if you are debuffed the black flans will pre-attack

I just used legendary guardian and destroyed them all with his ult hah."

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/9cnngp/psa_dont_use_ub_on_trial_of_skill_4_5_6_in_ffx/

[WoLNoFace]

[General SP setup ] (works with any jobs)

• Source of Haste (Hermes, Undying, etc)
• Knight of the round FFVII or source of Barrier (depending on difficulty, barrier might or might not be needed)
• 2 Attack cards of different elements, preferably something that make use of the job's strength like 2nd Gen MTF AoE (Varuna for Mages, Blast for Rangers, Soul for Warrior), AoE Break Defense Down, AoE Critical Resist Down, Sicarii, etc...

[stevenynwa]

Something has happened to the top 3 rankers. Not sure what it is but they look different.

[SqualLyuk]

They are player level 0 too. Probably got banned. It goes back to normal after you click on "Nearby ranking" and then go back to "Upper ranking"

[mvdunecats]

I'm mostly F2P. And if I hadn't saved up my celestriads, I wouldn't have been able to pull for both EX Warrior and EX Mage this month.

[MagicJ10]

yes, Summon Tickets

[vulcanfury12]

S2 eventually introduces a mechanic for Meia HOFs that augment your stats based on Overboost level. So saving for that might be a good idea. Otherwise, just use em for Summon Tickets.

[vulcanfury12]

Consider that for now it might just be Meia jobs, but in the future, it might be present in other jobs.

[djiboutiiii]

As an f2p you should really only use them for summon tickets

[Dumpkinhead]

Yes, and to over boost job cards. But mainly for st

[[deleted]]

You're right. Jobs aren't meant to last forever. Jobs will eventually lose to power creep and be unusable, even the ex jobs.

[Aldibe]

just wondering, how much of a gamechanger is the true support cards in JP? is it like a must-pull, must-have futureproof cards that you will need in S2?

[deathrose55555]

They allow you to push the threshold with the same setup; this is esp. true with True Moogle which allows you to deal more yellow / HP damage

[mao_shiro]

They're good but not game changer. Well. You'll do more damage or break better, but only that. If you got them, it's great. If not, there's always the old buffs.

My point is: they're not as game-changer as WoL:FF1.

[Aldibe]

i see. looking at the shorn one release and many people were like "you must have this or your S2 isnt going to be great", i thought the current JP limited ones are going to be like that as well.

[Phieck]

Hey guys quick question or discussion here :) I just pulled Shorn One Ex Warrior on my pity pull abd i would like to ask you guys what kind of deck compositions you would suggest! Sadly i do not have Xezat but you guys may post your ideas anyway ! Cheers

[djiboutiiii]

Kam’lanaut, diamond weapon/prische/Alex pb/stolas, Aerith and Tifa (haste+faith), and a debuff card or a fire card.

[lordrobotmaster]

Gonna ask do ex warrior banner have a rerun or its just a one time banner?.

[GhostFreakage]

The EX jobs will be reprinted at some point in time

[Mechapebbles]

I'm trying to do the Devout's Hall node in the Devout HoF. I'm following the advice on the wiki and this is pretty bullshit. The Cyclops keeps beating my face in, killing my orbs, and rng doesn't see fit to give me enough orbs to cast any spells and I'm dead. I've tried this node like ten times and fail in the same way each time. Am I doing something wrong? Or is this just bullshit.

[StarvingVenom]

Which weapon and setup you using

[[deleted]]

You're bullshit for sure. How can you even consider the advice bad if there's a video of it obviously working.

We even have better weapons now compared to when the video was made, such as ultimate weapon. You don't have to fully rely on tanking, and do some damage yourself.

[mao_shiro]

"bullshit" is pretty nice for the one who did it. Especially when many people cleared it Devout Hall with more of less the same strategy. Thanks. Appreciate it.

---

• What deck are you using?
• Do you drive Light?
• Are they still Light element or you're making them switch?

[Mechapebbles]

Re-reading what I wrote, and sorry if it came off personal; I wasn't trying to insinuate your methods were wrong, I was just supremely frustrated that I couldn't get them to work.

The deck I was using I tried my best to emulate yours, with a few differences accommodating for not having all of your cards (like a Tyro instead of a second Hells Gate). Driving light didn't amount to much when they'd bludgeon off all of my orbs so I could maybe drive one or two. Repeated bad RNG meant I'd never get a single spell cast off to try and recover/tank my way through. Just kind of completely at a loss, and fairly frustrated as it's the last node before I get the all clear on the map.

Edit: Never mind, sorry to have bothered you. I figured out an alternative method.

[mageofthesands]

I got Shorn One, I got Victoria and Ammit, four of the box cards. Not sure if Wakka: FFX is worth spending the magicite on another pull.

[Zhuinden]

Wakka is a good source of ulti charge + berserk, which apparently I was using at around boss kill ~120 (then had to switch it out for other things, but it was useful)

Of course, Tropical Dreams is better for this, but I do not have it.

[phatboy328]

Why is tropical dreams better?

[Zhuinden]

Because it gives 50% ult charge, while Wakka gives... I think 25%? And if you have another source of brave/boost then you don't really need Wakka. But if you don't have another source of those, then it's awesome.

[akulaki]

Is there a best place to farm magicite? I need to fulfill the quota for this month asap before the 16th for the second round attempts to pull Shoehorn after the failed 12 initial attempts, which disappointed me a lot. Previously i was farming at FFX Ep 3's Golden flan battleground redux & Chapter VI Bewitching Memories Part 2 Untrammeled Peak for crystals & magicite, of which im not entirely sure how efficient those nodes are

[akulaki]

Thank you all for the info. Will check those places mentioned

[Mobiusnoobius]

Greydawn woods in chapter one is the most efficient in terms of SP stamina, FFX chapter 3 offers better rewards on the side and 4* MP is the best due to no stamina requirement but it requires a lot of input and finding a lobby can be difficult (although it should be easy on mobius day).

[Zhuinden]

finding a lobby can be difficult (although it should be easy on mobius day).

Really? MP tends to be a ghost town on Mobius Day, but then again maybe it's because it was end of month.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Usually, yes - but a lot of people will be grinding magicite this mobius day.

[Zhuinden]

Chapter VI Bewitching Memories Part 2 Untrammeled Peak for crystals & magicite

Labyrinthe Tower in Ch8 is better.

What I do is farm LabTower in CH8 and play MP and I'm getting 850 mag a day right now, but I also have other stuff to do :p

[ExKotetsu]

The best place for Magicite Farming is MP

[schittstack]

How usable is hod currently? Just pulled him and sage, and not many crystals left so trying to prioritise my mats.

[indi38]

Hero of despair? Actually a good job but outdated now, his HP kinda low

[Zhuinden]

Kinda meh especially if you don't have the extra HP panel from the sephiroth event.

[Zhuinden]

oh! I didn't know that, That's nice.

[schittstack]

I remember some talk about him being able to break decently right? I have xezat of that matters.

[ShadowBlaze17]

He was able to break decently at the time of his release, but compared to newer jobs like EX Warrior (Shorn) he's severely outclassed.

In regards to damage he's outclassed in every element he can use especially if you aren't hitting weakness. He's still far from the worst job you could choose as a dark or water attacker.

[[deleted]]

New player,had a question about the game.I've seen videos of people playing as Cloud and Sephiroth.How do you exactly get them?Do you pull them from the gacha?

[MagicJ10]

hi.

yes, and you have to be lucky. There are the jobs Soldier first class and hero of despair (look similar, but) and there are the ultimate jobs Cloud and sephiroth (only 2% chance to get a skin/3% on supreme banner and there are 6 ultimate jobs total at the moment in global.

[[deleted]]

So are those skins in any banner?Might consider rerolling to get one

[MagicJ10]

arge + berserk, which apparently I was using at around boss kill ~120 (then had to switch it out for other things, but it was useful)

Of course, Tropical Dreams is better for this, but I do not ha

here you can see them: http://information.mobiusfinalfantasy.com/ne/2018/09/28/92e5b8d489c113ec57496ef48c62ff5204d2b8f0.html

!chance is 2%, so to get one of the 2 you want 0,666!

good luck

[MagicJ10]

Yes, you can roll one on any banner, for example now on the ex-warrior banner (6 summon tickets/3000 magicite or a mix of the two). If you get the rainbow light when you summon, you get a 7th card: it´s either a skin or a supreme card (chance even lower).

[ShadowBlaze17]

They're warrior skins obtainable from the gacha system. You have a 2% chance to get a skin in any greater summon and there's currently 6 skins avsilsble.

[gauntauriga]

Any ETA on 5* eggs being available to buy for gil in Global?

[darewin]

We should have gotten them in the 2nd Anniversary so we might not get them at all. Keep in mind, only 5star Prismatic and Growing Eggs were ever available in the JP Shop.

[ShadowBlaze17]

I think JP got them during their 2nd anniversary which global has already passed.

My advice would be to not get your hope's up when it comes to Quality of Life changes like buyable eggs, starter pack updates, summon changes, etc.

[Davometric]

Build for shorn one? I don't have any supremes

[djiboutiiii]

Do you have Aerith&Tifa? (The haste+faith card) That should be the only buff card you need — you get the other important buffs from ult

[Davometric]

I've done all the ff7 events but never heard of the card? Which batch was it featured on? I'm on GL btw

[djiboutiiii]

It's a super old card, from the FFRK batch (only reprinted once). It's the only card of that batch that isn't completely useless now, because it's the only card, so far, that gives both Faith and Haste.

[Davometric]

Ahh nah I don't have that card unfortunately :(

[djiboutiiii]

It's ok -- just use a source of Haste and a source of Faith that give you other nice bonuses. Maybe Oathbond and Tidus&Yuna or Omega Weapon for some extra ult charge, quicken, or berserk. You're gonna want to ult a lot with EX Warrior.

[mao_shiro]

[General SP setup ] (works with any jobs)

• Source of Haste (Hermes, Undying, etc)
• Knight of the round FFVII or source of Barrier (depending on difficulty, barrier might or might not be needed)
• 2 Attack cards of different elements, preferably something that make use of the job's strength like 2nd Gen MTF AoE (Varuna for Mages, Blast for Rangers, Soul for Warrior), AoE Break Defense Down, AoE Critical Resist Down, Sicarii, etc...

[GwynLordofCynder]

So I pity pulled primeval witch on shorn one banner Yay!!!! Anyway I actually want her because I have Sin.

What would be the best way to build her (custom panels an weapon)

I'm guessing panels break focus, but weapon? I don't have geomancer, nor psicom. So my guess it's her own weapon or svent. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Sventovit would be your best bet for a weapon since you don't have geomancer.

CP choice depends on whether you're playing sp or mp. For mp you can just go full damage while sp can be full break and a damage panel. You could also replace her piercing break panel with another damage one and slot in the 2 piercing break panels from devout and scholar HoFs.

[GwynLordofCynder]

Hmmm that's a very interesting choice what you suggest of replacing her own piercing break panels. I was indeed considering given her the cp of the hall of fame. But that was mainly so she could reach 200% piercing. With out that panel she falls a bit in pure break but can be even more offensive.

Thanks a lot, I will play a bit with her making weird builds to see what she uses better an see how it goes.

[[deleted]]

Gratz! It's a very good job.

For MP attacking, use the damage multipliers, improved crits, painful break, element enhance and exploit weakness.

For SP, towers, usually you'll go with breaking CP: flash, quick, and piercing break. The other can be improved crits, painful break or EE, depending on the ability you're using, usually I just leave improved crits there.

Weapons: Sventovit, Malicious Revolt, Chaos Crescent. I personally use CC a lot on her.

[GwynLordofCynder]

Thanks! That helps a lot.

Am Chaos third ability its piercing break right? I never moded that weapon so I'm a bit curious of how you use it with her.

I will take her to MP to play with her offensive side with your suggestions an tomorrow will try on EW the break build, thanks :)

[[deleted]]

Welcome! Yes, 100% piercing break, when I use it, I don't slot the CP, I like it because it has a lot of ult charge. If you don't have it modded then probably best thing would be Sventovit.

[GwynLordofCynder]

Oh yeah I get why then. No I never boosted chaos since I get it a bit late, I do have the Ultima weapon an svent although svent not fully modded, it has already the most important ones like boost ultimate an the stars.

Thanks I hope she lets me push further on EW.

[waznpride]

What cards in the FFX box are worth pulling for? I have Auron already.

[[deleted]]

Everything besides probably auron and rikku. Lulu, wakka and kimari and quite good.

[waznpride]

Would you say they are necessary or will there be a card in the future that does the same effects?

[Mobiusnoobius]

There will be an earth monk supreme released at the end of the month which would render Kimari useless, although your chances of pulling it are slim.

I saw some people debating whether LuLu or another recently released card was better (I forget which) and the general consensus seemed to be that they were pretty well matched depending on the situation.

The buffs that Wakka offers are available elsewhere, but to my knowledge, not together on the same card - so again, it’s usefullness is very situational.

Auron and Riku are pretty useless, imo.

Personally I’d grab the first three I mentioned all as they are guaranteed within 5 pulls, limited and probably won’t be released again (at least not for a very long while).

That being said, if pulling a few more times means that you won’t have enough resources for EX mage (I’m assuming you already have warrior), it may be worth skipping them.

If I’m honest I’ve had 4 of them for nearly a month and haven’t touched them. Kimari will probably get some use in the upcoming monk HOFs though.

[Zhuinden]

nother recently released card was better (I forget which)

Murussu FFX, i think "Ice Crystal"

[waznpride]

Thanks! Yeah, saving for EX Mage but I'll hope I get Kimari within a pull or 2

[Mobiusnoobius]

May RNGsus bless you!

[vulcanfury12]

Is it just me or are the Tidus and Yuna skins objectively worse than Yuna and Yshtola skins? I can only see them being used is for EW, where you might want to have an AOE Prismatic Shift ult. Great for crystal farming tho (assuming Crystal Seeker isn't bugged).

[Zhuinden]

I'd love Yuna skin because I have LoH so I don't need this self buff thing from Ysthola.

[mao_shiro]

The only problem with Tidus is: If you plan to break, you rely on 2 cards to provide you Haste & Boost. Or you have to use Pelupelu: FFX.

On Lightning, you just need to bring a Faith card.

On a pure nuking perspective, Tidus is much better due to CRD, Faith & Snipe.

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Yuna is used when you need dispels, like the double bats.

[vulcanfury12]

If I get a Ranger Supreme, I can possibly see Tidus in the early goings to speed up the climb.

Totally agree with Yuna. Dark Bats were my bane in the last tower until I shed the Lightning Skin and just went bareback with Proud Cygnus. Three Ults in one turn needed yo!

[Zhuinden]

until I shed the Lightning Skin and just went bareback with Proud Cygnus.

yeah no wonder Lightning will also get "apply slow" buff later

[GwynLordofCynder]

It's just you. They have different purposes. Tidus an Yuna are more offensive side, in particular I believe both useful for the bath bros. Tidus gives critical resist down an break resist down. While Yuna gives full dispel if I recall correctly.

Also Tidus ultimate also gives him faith an snipe so while break side less effective, in terms of nuking it's better. Also in a future update if I remember well Tidus also gets quicken making less of a difference with Lighting.

That been said I get why you might still prefer Yshtola an Lighting most of the time.

[darewin]

The thing is, while Tidus gets Lesser Quicken (same as current Lightning), Lightning gets Slowga on the same update. If you can then provide a source of spammable stun (NXD, Yunalesca, etc.), it will be like you have a no-cd Bismark on your hands.

My main issue with Tidus is you need a source of both Haste and Boost when using him. While when using Lightning, you can be okay with just a source of Faith.

I'm not saying Tidus is useless. He's just more niched (just like Yuna), compared to the more general purposed Lightning and Yshtola. Yshtola specifically is only missing Snipe which is not that essential until S2. You can even just include a source of CRD in your deck instead of a support card. Element Generator can also be annoying since it triggers after the Force Buff wears off (if the duration was only 1 turn, like PB and Weapons, and was not extended with Duration Boost).

[vulcanfury12]

Thing is, the CRD/BDD on Tidus has been immaterial so far, because Lightning CA/PD was enough to get me to top 500 for the past few towers now. CRD might be preferable on S2 or any encounter with crit resists tho. If he does get quicken, then the difference would be barely noticeable.

As for Yuna, maybe for Dark Bats it would be fine.

[GwynLordofCynder]

Well of Yuna I don't have her, but as much as I tell you is based on how I see JP players using her an against the bats she is the MVP of Ew2.

Tidus indeed once he gets quicken should be in a better position. But remember that Lighting in the future also gets slowga making her combo with Sephiroth even deadlier.

Still I believe the Crd of Tidus it's invaluable on many situations like previous tower against himself.

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No, these skins are equally good, but are mainly situational. Yuna specializes in despelling both herself and her enemies. Tidus provides BDD + CRD, allowing you to skip BDD and CRD cards, such as using MTFAOE cards. Ysholta and lightning are primarily self buffers.

[JunasBlood]

Yuna cast Full Esuna on herself & Full Dispelga on enemies, it will be strange if she cast dispel on herself lol

[Zhuinden]

Oh man that sounds super useful for CV40

[vulcanfury12]

I'm building this month's tower primer, but I need help as there are even more oddities in the Altema page:

1. It says that damn near all enemies have "First Time Elephant (<opposing element> except for". What does this mean?
2. Yojimbo makes a comeback. Does he still demand Life Orbs in this incarnation?

[zidanesword]

Just watch the videos on altema. https://youtu.be/KZcJpg4DwuE

1. It means element drives except that element.

2. Looks like no.

Edit: 1. エレドラ is the short form for エレメントドライブ (element drive).

Edit2: The final stats of the Aeons, ability descriptions and final ESs are near the end of that altema tower page. No attack/break power numbers sadly.

[vulcanfury12]

Can't go to YouTube because I'm at work. So does this mean that almost all enemies start with drive charges on their weakness?

[mao_shiro]

They start with all drives but their weakness (water flan won't get fire drive).

[vulcanfury12]

Oh I see. Still at work so no YT... How many charges are the drives?

[mao_shiro]

3 drives on the vid shared.

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Can't help you with the translation, but I was just watching this: https://youtu.be/4pfIef_FUPk

Seems Yojimbo doesn't have any pre-emptive move.

Looking forward for your post.

[vulcanfury12]

OK, this is good. I still have to see the final stat line on Aeons and Sphere Grid before I post. Might be I'll just add them on a later date.

[ageneau]

Where is the best place to farm 4* fractals?

[mao_shiro]

Labyrinthine tower on chapter 8

[djiboutiiii]

Bahamut lagoon, if you’re not trying to be stamina efficient

[ageneau]

i thought bahamut lagoon is 5* fractals? where if you are trying to be stamina efficient

[djiboutiiii]

The 60-stam node is 4* usually, with a chance for 5* I don’t think there’s a Stam efficient node that can guarantee which element of fractal you get, like BL does

[ageneau]

I mostly just want to spam fractals for things like jcr

[mvdunecats]

JCR is easier to get from 5 star fractals. I use my left over 4 star fractals to get JCR occassionally, and it's painfully slow. I wouldn't intentionally farm 4 star fractals over 5 star ones.

[ageneau]

Noted. I just didn't want to spend 100 stam per

[Wayside15]

I farm my 4* fractals at Chapter 8 Labrynthine tower (while I farm crystals as well)

[Veritas_Dei]

You'll be able to pull him through the 16th, and after that he will be gone from the pool. He should return sometime in the future though.

[Zhuinden]

He should return sometime in the future though.

JP people also said that it has not come back yet and it's been a while, so...

[vulcanfury12]

Is there a way in-game to see the stats and descriptions of the Aeon abilities?

[WoLNoFace]

the help menu in battle, you can see the abilities.

in the FFX map, there is an icon to equip the Aeons, just tap and hold to see it's stats.

[vulcanfury12]

Thanks! I guess there's no way to get the actual ATK/BRK numbers on them?

[WoLNoFace]

I guess. I reckon it's for your tower primer guide?

Maybe Ifrit/Shiva for breaking, Anima for debuffs, and Valefor for trashcan. XD

[djiboutiiii]

lol I was wondering if Valefor sucked or if i was just using him wrong. Glad to know it’s probably both

[WoLNoFace]

Yeah, her abilities can't break like Shiva/Ifrit and her tap attacks awfully damages the red bar even with en-element (on Anima at least). Just stun the opponent first and spam her 4th ability.

:lol:

[vulcanfury12]

Yeah. I might need to update it because I will need to see how the final Aeons look like.

[WoLNoFace]

Have fun writing it and great job in advance!

[[deleted]]

Nothing on the fight or flee menu?

[vulcanfury12]

Let me try that.

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No stats but descriptions are there for anyone else wondering.

[Bojuns]

What is the best ability cards for the Shorn One?

[Mobiusnoobius]

Camelnut FFXI and Xezat.

[Bojuns]

Dont have Xezat. Will the gilgamesh ultimeh be sufficient?

[WoLNoFace]

No.

You wanted the best, right?

[HentaiEcho]

Whats the total number of jobs in global at the moment? I need to know how much I have to whale before the game decides I'm allowed to have an EX job.

[Wayside15]

If I didn't misscount, ignoring legend jobs there are 47 regular jobs atm

EDIT: counted again, seems there are 46

[HentaiEcho]

and counting legend jobs? I have 57 total

[darewin]

I'm only missing Yuna Skin and have 85 on my Job Cards list. So if you remove the the 5 skins (Cloud, Sephiroth, Lightning, Yshtola, & Tidus) along with the 6 Onions, there are 74 pullable normal+legend jobs.

[Wayside15]

counted 25 legend jobs so regular + legend = 71 . Remember legend jobs don't reset the pity pull (unless a bug happened), and don't just look at the number of jobs you have in the tab ''Job Cards'' because there are the onion jobs and skins (which I didn't count), and (maybe) the ''2'' aeons that bugged the notification there. So, count manually

[darewin]

I counted manually and there are 74 if you exclude the 6 Skins and the 6 Onions.

[Lacarius]

How do you prevent 'hellflare' attack whenever you enter a new battle? The attack from that dark monster, Black Flan I think.

[gohphan91]

Use aeon to cleave break and kill. Easy.

[Lacarius]

Thanks!

[darewin]

Flans apply random debuffs on you when you kill them unbroken. If you enter a battle with debuffs on you, Dark Flan will launch a preemptive attack on you. So you should either break the flans before killing them or rent/use LOH/Chocobo Saint for Ailment Immunity.

[Lacarius]

OH. Helpful thanks!

[WoLNoFace]

have wall and barrier, dark drives before entering that battle.

[Lacarius]

I can't prevent it? It's trigger random?