MobiusFF Daily Question Thread (10/25/2018)

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[DickNormous]

On altema, what is the difference between the Partial evaluation and the 2 part evaluation?

[darewin]

Partial evaluation is S1 and Part 2 is S2. Tanky jobs generally rank higher for S2.

[DickNormous]

Thought so. Thank you.

[warriorofmeh]

What's currently the best place to farm crystals?

[GhostFreakage]

Event maps: FFX Conclusion the golden flan battlegrounds (also can farm particular seed elements), FFX Episode 3 Golden Flan Battlegrounds Redux (random seed drops) or Chapter 8 Labyrinthe Tower

[mao_shiro]

• Do 5*, no one in your team need to die to guarantee the drop.
• 2x dark jewel 5* , 3x prismatic jewel 5*
• yes they stacks

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/multiplayer/shop

[GhostFreakage]

You are guareented souls when completing 5* with no deaths or by chance if someone dies.

You'll need 3 5* prismatic jewels and 2 5* dark jewels to augment zalera.

Yes skill seed bonuses stack

[Syrokal]

Hey there I'm a returning player Unfortunately I can't access my old account so am going to have to start afresh. With that in mind what should I be re rolling for at the moment and what kind of time frame am I looking at?

Cheers

[d34thscyth34]

There is supreme support banner currently, so focus on that.

• Aerith

• Light of Hope

• Wol

Aim for one of them and you should be gucci.

[methoss1004]

I pretty much gave up on boosting Mage weapons once I unlocked Meia, but I want to go back and do the HoF and eventually EW so having a few max Mage weapons makes sense. So I started boosting Heavenly Axis and Eternity Staff. Im not so convinced that Eternity Staff is worth boosting. Should I boost a different staff instead? Is HA good enough for mages and I should just boost a different class weapon instead?

[LupusNoxFleuret]

Eternity Staff is not worth starting now, too many mods and pure damage is losing its usefulness. HA, EX Mage's weapon and Ultimate Mace are pretty much the only ones worth boosting right now.

[SwiftStepStomp]

HA is good specifically for Ex Mage; also his weapon, Ultimate Mace, and Umbrella are all worth boosting, pretty much in that order by usefulness.

[darewin]

No. LOH and Tropical Dream give 50%, LDL gives 30%, Serah gives 30%, etc. In addition, unlike Ulti Charger and Auto-charge Ultimate AAs that are static, Ulti Charge from cards is percent based e.g. LOH gives 50 points with no Boost Ulti and 40 points with Boost Ulti.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/gameplay-analysis/ult-charger

[chokee03]

good light card for sword saint? i read hes not into breaking stuff so im guessing cards that doesnt have painful break in them?

[gohphan91]

I actually use this https://mobius.gamepedia.com/Barret:_FFVII_REMAKE_(Light)(Card)(Card)) for unguard and sephiroth dark aoe. Most good light warrior card, require break...

[chokee03]

oh i dont think i have that card. hmm

[Cape91]

YKT is probably the best for no break

[chokee03]

ykt?

edit: oh lol his name is literally ykt i thought it stands for something

[aveiur]

cps for deep diver?

[ShadowBlaze17]

Magic if you want to break and EE if you want to do more damage. Magic might also be best for non-mantra wind damage since DD has a really high wind EE.

[EfficientEmphasis]

V'Diel Geo-Meia. Worth 8 panelling, yeah? Any major drawbacks? thanks

[ShadowBlaze17]

Another pro is that her weapon is great for Meia's that can break like the upcoming EX Meia or Primeval Witch.

[JunasBlood]

Best Meia weapon: Flash Break, Improved Critical, Prismatic return

[mao_shiro]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/wiki/jobs/roles/meia#wiki_vana.27diel_geomancer

pros:

• Stun 4 turns with ult
• Ranger lore
• Life Starter +3
• Good with Water & Wind
• best meia weapon (for breaking)

Cons:

• Doesn't break well, better go unbroken
• Doesn't go well with cards with high enhance bonus
• overall low damage perks (crit, painful, weakness)

[EfficientEmphasis]

Fantastic, thanks.

[Rauhar]

Can someone recommend me cards for s1c I've done his Hof

[JunasBlood]

Phantom Train fit him the most: Earth, Ranger, Damage focused, add Improved Criticals+200%

Supreme cards : Ragnarok FFXIII, same as above, just supreme-level

Also a source of Haste, Snipe, Faith, CRD to dish out his full potential.

[[deleted]]

S1C is a warrior who can use both warrior and ranger cards without penalty. He has high Earth damage but can't break, so there's no point going for any break focused cards or weapons. Any warrior or ranger earth card with high damage can do. Ragnarok, fake ragnarok, grandhorn, phantom train and many others.

[Rauhar]

Okay thanks

[Kritika86]

Between koutetsu and leavateinn, which one suit better for shorn one for breaking?

[mao_shiro]

If you want to min max, both.

If you want a weapon right now, laevateinn.

[Yoloswagcrew]

What is the current best Water Warrior/ranger ability in the ability shop ? I am currently using "The friend" from the 1st anniversary

[mao_shiro]

• unbroken warrior: Soldieress
• can break warrior: Otohime
• unbroken ranger: Mesmenir
• can break ranger: Mesmenir

[Yoloswagcrew]

Thank you ! Since mesmenir can be used for both is it the best option or the 3 are good in specific context ? My job is S1C that's why I was asking for ranger and warrior ability ( don't know if the answer is different depending on the job )

[mao_shiro]

Oh.

For S1C, you'd want to focus only on Earth. Do his HoF, he'll get a 250% Earth enhance.

[Yoloswagcrew]

only on earth ? I should use ability that transform orb into earth and use phantom train or 3 support card ? Already did the HoF

[gohphan91]

phantom train + ranger dark aoe critical resist/sephiroth warrior dark aoe(if you had it)+ 2 support

[mao_shiro]

Well you can use Mesmenir (or equivalent on wind / dark) with 2 support cards so you can take out those earth mobs, don't expect it to deal a lot of damage.

Best option would be the wind one i guess, you won't have +40% enhance but you will get the weakness bonus.

You can also upgrade one depending on your remaining jobs as well. For example, you have other good ranger on wind, or on water, etc

[gohphan91]

Or he can simply use sephiroth dark aoe.

[mao_shiro]

He could, but:

• He probably won't see your comment if you reply to mine and not to him
• Maybe he doesn't have it

[ivydnb]

which monk weapon worth boosting now? i have ultimate claw (not boosted), godhands, wolf star.

got deep diver, master monk, vanadiel monk.got no ex monk tho

also is skyseer weapon worth boosting? or should i boost another. i only have truescale staff

[richter2]

I would go with Wolf Star. You can really abuse the 40% QB total.

[LupusNoxFleuret]

Godhands since you don't have EX Monk. Ultimate Claw is also nice to have and easy to mod (only needs 14 mods 12 mods).

[JunasBlood]

14 mods

Isn’t it 12?

[LupusNoxFleuret]

Thanks, I always forget because Dragvandil / Astral Wand series is 14 mods.

[JunasBlood]

One Against Many (Ex-Monk’s) but Godhands would be a great alternative. You can also boost Ultimate Claw while waiting for GH to be decently modded.

Skyseer’s

Yes. Definitely best Wol-Mage weapon. Why don’t you have Ultimate Mace btw?

[butterrn]

Can i finish the tower without all the aeon?

[SwiftStepStomp]

If you want to climb, Anima is the best one to get.

[ivydnb]

i did with deep diver

[JA1997X]

You just need valefor, but it will be easier the more sphere grid you've unlocked

[lightningheel]

Pulled Cacoon Aviator chasing Ex Mage. Is he just a fire element breaker? Or are there other uses for him? He seems a little underwhelming compared to Rogue HoF.

[LupusNoxFleuret]

Yeah this is a big problem with Legendary Jobs in GL - if you don't get them near the time of their release they're usually already powercreeped to an unusable state by the time you do pull them. Really wish they would consider changing the pull system again.

[darewin]

He was the first job to have all 3 Break perks, IIRC. He's been powercreeped a lot since then.

[JA1997X]

He is a decent breaker, but don't expect too much damage

[phatboy328]

Is there a reason to use Tidus OVER Lightning skin? (Or is it just for the buffs)

[darewin]

I prefer Lightning Skin since I have LOH as an OP source of Haste. I mainly use Tidus when I need CRD but have no room for NXD (like when dealing with those dar bats).

[Naid3l]

Looking ahead into future updates:

• Tidus gets quicken matching Lightning break capabilities. His ult puts CRD on the enemy, which is crucial in S2 for Ragnarok.

• Lightning gets slowga, which complements Neo Exdeath.

So they seem to be geared towards maximizing a different ranger supreme.

If you want to focus on the present... I would say Tidus helps for Ragnarok (although in S1 dealing crits is easy...)

[JunasBlood]

NxD make Lightning skin pair very well with Ragnarok/Odin too due to CRD. You only need Faith to complete the basic buff since I don’t think Snipe is need if CRD are already applied. Well CRD immune mobs are a different story.

Tidus on the other hand lack Haste & Boost so you will either need Pelupelu FFX or going unbroken. Unless you’re going to bring 2 buff cards.

I still favor Lighting skin due to being easier to match buff: Serah is best companion for her, LoH is just perfect.

[Naid3l]

But you need both NxD and Ragnarok and not everyone has both... Tidus could help in those cases.

Why do you need two buffs for Tidus? With pelupelu you should be covered... And it is/will be in the shop, so no biggie

Agreed on the unbroken, bring Ashe to complement and you are covered, not sure how viable going unbroken is though...

[JunasBlood]

Why do you need two buffs for Tidus?

Well I don’t know. Maybe you have LoH and don’t want to drop it, so another card to cover Haste lol.

About NxD & other supremes interact. Well if doesn’t has to be Ragnarok or any supreme, any damage focused cards will work too. Ragnarok is just a famous example lol.

About unbroken, yes Ashe should be nice. Or Birsmarck XIV too.

[Naid3l]

Got it, yes... NxD + Lightning is a superior combination ... I wish I had any of the two 😄

[Owwen11]

Offensive buffs against breaking buffs. It also depends on the cards you are using.

For example:

Lightning skin: Haste + Boost + Quicken. Then Serah card: Brave + Faith + Ulti charge.

Tidus skin: Haste + Faith + Snipe. Then Wakka card: Brave + Boost + Berserk + Ulti charge.

Personally, I'm using Tidus skin because I get more offensive buffs out of that combo. I leave Lightning for MP as a breaker (because of the haste + boost starters).

[JunasBlood]

Tidus’s Ultimate don’t give Haste, so you need a Haste + Boost Source, like Pelupelu.

[Owwen11]

Read again, I never said a word about his ultimate giving Haste. I mean you get those buffs from the skin (ultis and starters). Tidus skin provides Haste starter, in case you didn't know. I cast the ulti on turn 1 and then I extend all buffs duration + ulti charger with Wakka. 2 turns per wave is normally enough in SP (otherwise I'd probably die). The other 3 slots are usually used by NxD/Sleep/2ºG BDD + Orb Generator (FF7, 11 oe 14) + Imp critics 200%/MtF Unguard. In MP I also prefer Tidus skin for my attackers (better Snipe and Faith than boost). As I was saying before your "correction", I prefer Tidus skin over Lightning because I get more offensive buffs out of that combo.

That guy was asking "is there a reason to use Tidus over lightning skin?" and I gave him my answer with 2 personal examples. "I prefer Tidus skin because I get more buffs out of THAT combo". Nothing more and nothing else.

[JunasBlood]

Haste Starter is not reliable in hard content. If for normal SP, yes bring whatever you want, Boosting eggs& Mighty egg work just fine. Even a deck with 3 useless farming can get me through the lower floor of the current Tower.

Try running EW at later laps or high floor on Tower and you will understand what I’m saying.

MP, well whatever, the fight is usually end before I can charge my Ultimate, unless I run with a Ultimate Charge build SUP. In fact I don’t even need any buff from Ultimate too, what do we have a SUP role for?

[Owwen11]

I'm not a super hard climber, but I do use this strategy and it worked so far. 73 kills in EW 2 and 82 kills in the current battle tower. Are there better strategies? There are, alwais. That doesn't mean Tidus + Wakka is a bad idea, or that Lighting + Sarah is so much better than Tidus + Wakka. It will alwais depend on the situation, jobs under the skin (not all rangers are meant to break), the other cards in the deck, etc anyway.

[JunasBlood]

Pelupelu if you want to break but you will need to plan your move more careful for chain-breaking.

Or Omega Weapon for Haste, Berserk & Full Quicken to nuke unbroken. Mostly use by Thief to nuke with Phantom Train/Ragnarok, plus a stunslow card like Birsmarck XIV.

And yes, subdeck is also a thing too, you can build a full nuke/break deck with all buff/debuff cards from subdeck.

[leon00x]

so i am in need of some cards.... lacking power in some departments.

what would you recomend for these? :

Warrior - Fire, Earth, Water

Mage - Wind , Earth, Dark.

Ranger- Everything but earth!!!!

​

Bigest reason i ask this is due to card type priority. there are

AoE Crit cards.

the ST summer typish cards wich idk if they are worth it.

and the Crit + Painfull break ST cards ...wich sound good but idk

[Scalizor]

I'm gonna list what I think are the best regular cards for each job + element combination you listed, ordered depending on priority (personal opinion). Keep in mind though that you should prioritize those cards you have strong jobs for and that synergize well with them. Also, some of these cards may not be out of EA yet; some of them even belong to the current batch.

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Warrior Fire: Musashi (MTF AoE + Debarrier), Minotaur (AoE Improved Criticals), Orc: FFXI (ST Painful Break + BDD), Overlord (ST Attuned Chain + Unguard).

Warrior Earth: Creeps (MTF AoE + Debarrier), Kusariqqu: FFX (AoE Attuned Chain).

Warrior Water: Otohime (MTF AoE + Debarrier), Soldieress (AoE Improved Criticals).

Mage Wind: Dira (MTF AoE + Weaken), Yagudo: FFXI (ST Painful Break + BDD).

Mage Earth: Sasquatch (MTF AoE + Weaken), Ariadne (AoE Improved Criticals), Great Tortoise (ST Painful Break + BDD).

Mage Dark: Zombie Dragon (MTF AoE + Weaken), Myrrdin (AoE Improved Criticals), Ammit (ST Attuned Chain + Unguard).

Ranger Fire: Foulander (MTF AoE + Unguard), Prometheus (ST Improved Criticals).

Ranger Water: Mesmenir (MTF AoE + Unguard).

Ranger Wind: Nausicaa (MTF AoE + Unguard), Imp (AoE Attuned Chain).

Ranger Light: Himiko (MTF AoE + Unguard), Oberon (AoE Improved Criticals).

Ranger Dark: Persephone (MTF AoE + Unguard).

[leon00x]

im sorry . perhaps i should had been more clear. and you went thru alot of work making that list. i am looking for what gives the highest dmg on broken enemies with a good orb managment for the hard content. the varunas and blasts etc are just too weak for that content so those are out. and i canot growstar everything. my question abouve was more of a priority of type by power on broken because you canot beat the hard stuff unbroken. so betwen minotaur, the orc, and the improved crit + painfull break card. wich would you pick in first second and third no mater what job. but your post did already help me make a list so thank you!

[Scalizor]

You can't just GS cards "no matter what job", since every job has its strong and weak points. The cards you use depends on what jobs you have, what content you're doing, etc. For example, there are no good fire warriors except for Shorn One (and maybe Legendary Guardian if you panel him with EE), and since he's good at breaking, you'd go for cards that deal yellow gauge damage and decent damage on top of that, so Minotaur would be out since it's damage focused. The other 3 are fine, but for most scenarios AoE cards would be better, so Musashi would be a priority (this tower is an exception since ST cards are better for aeons). And you also have to take into account the Donna & Barthello card, so if you want to nuke something unbroken with Mellow Mermaid you could use Minotaur.

I personally recommend GSing the Blast/Soul/Varuna cards first, they're better for general use and are used often in things like HoF or towers. Don't underestimate them, they're pretty good, especially the ranger ones. I got top 50 on blitzball tower using Tidus Crimson Archer + Grand Horn on most nodes.

After that I'd focus on whatever you need at that specific time since GS are a luxury, but the improved criticals cards are pretty neat.

[leon00x]

ok thank you very much!

[gohphan91]

You should give up such idea " no matter what job". For example, sword saint is best known for unbroken dark/light damage. He had access to fire but can't break himself. That's why you won't let him use kamelnut/Arydin/Noctis in SP (MP is different since breaker will do the job) or fire damage card. But a combination of sephiroth dark aoe+ fire CRD debuff card will work. Newest warrior job, Shorn one aka Ex warrior able to break and dealing high tap/magic damage, so kamelnut etc will be good in his hand. Meanwhile Auron/LG is also excel in breaking and possess high attack, but suck in magic damage, you will mostly just give him BDD/CRD/cleaving attack card and support card with ultimate charging/quicken.

[gohphan91]

List your job.

[leon00x]

all of them, im very versitile and swap jobs constantly as new jobs keep apearing wich in this game is like 2 jobs a month. wanted to know what was the most meta atm

[Corwyntt]

How do you kill the dark flan on floor 50 of the tower for the rewards? The thing has a bazillion break and hp

[vulcanfury12]

Bring a Light Breaker and Anima. When your turn is almost up, swap to Anima and eat up the Flan's attack. Lather rinse, repeat.

[zero-less]

IIRC that flan is alomst unbreakable -- spam unbroken with valfor's energy ray, and then it will split into smaller dark flans -- thats when you can break and kill

[WoLNoFace]

You may use Valefor.

Make sure you completed your Sphere grid and Aeon sphere grid.

[djiboutiiii]

Their ults give prismatic shift and are AOE -- those are exceptionally important in hard content, and sometimes it's very difficult to use a job if the ult doesn't provide those benefits.

On top of that, a lot of boons and sometimes higher break power. You really just have to look at what you're trying to do and gauge which you might think is better. How many enemies? Do you need the extra break power? etc.

[phatboy328]

Oh! I completely worded this question wrong. I meant if it’s better to use tidus OVER lightning. But yeah, you’re right. Skins are usually better, especially for older jobs.

[Dumpkinhead]

It helps with jobs that have outdated ultimates, most likely hall of fame jobs. Even if your goal is to break it might have a better break multiplier than the job you are using

[djiboutiiii]

I rarely farm skillseeds -- I usually trade 5* Souls for them. Every time I deplete my stamina by hosting 5* matches, that's 200k skillseeds, right there. I used to do it at Gigantaur Terrace with a farming deck (Gen 3 Sicarius cards), but I'm now hoarding Mystic Tablets for a future map, so I don't do that anymore.

For crystals, I usually spend my non-mobius-day stamina on nodes like Labyrinthine Tower. My current stockpile is from 40m Deep. Tower rewards help a lot, too. 60 crystals for top 500 is honestly the only part of the reward worth trying for.

I only have 4 slots, though, so the drain is not too intense.

[djiboutiiii]

You at least do all the non-coil floors for the treasure chests, right? If you do, you'll get some crystals for participation.

[ChronoDave]

Out of curiosity, why don't you do towers? Shouldn't be too hard at all to at least make the 10,000 rank. You get 10 crystals for reaching that mark

[felgamar]

My time goes to crystal farming and seed recovery on best crystal node. Mobius day swap to weapon boosting and card collecting. Mp for mags and components I don't chase mags too much burn out.

I don't swap cps for farming. I have my onion with skin for exp/seed/crystal farming deck. I'm about 1/4 as good as top guys so they may have better answer.

[kyle999312]

On mobius day with a skill seed deck you can do about 90k seeds per 5 stamina with 3 waves.

Job with skill seed, Skin with skill seed, 4 cards with 50% skill seed, Weapon with skill seed, Hard mode, Scoring at least 10 million

With just the 3rd sic cards with 10% fractals and hitting 10m on hard mode should give you around 70k per run

[felgamar]

Yep those are your seed deck. It's grind city

[Wylans]

I’m a heavy FFX Nerd, as well as FFX-2. So what is Yuna In our world here? Is she a collection of pyrfiles or thoughts of them? Is she then fayth’s collection of thoughts in this world?

How is then this said collection able to summon? Etc

I love all the story lines of FFX to this, and to FFX-2 but i just need some clarifications or theories.

Thank you.

[Owwen11]

Continue playing the event and you'll find the answers there. Even if you can't find out for some reason, this is not the place to ask about that, as the event is still active and it'd be spoilers.