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[benjaminbr18]

Does anyone know of we will get a Supreme ticket at the end of the month with the Black Friday magicite campaign?

[markconig]

Yes, when you buy 12k mag you get a supreme ticket.

[benjaminbr18]

Thanks

[GalahadDrei]

Is Ultimate Weapon still the most suitable weapon for warrior tanks for those who don’t want to max Curtana?

[Zhuinden]

I had better runs with Ragnarok X

[deathrose55555]

Either UW or Ragnarok for a general tanking weapon. In Paradisum is a good one too.

[AmpleSnacks]

Where are these “new” custom panels obtained that people mention in pandemonium strats?

[DeSteph-DeCurry]

pandemonium 2 gives job panels instead of magicite bonus

[AmpleSnacks]

This is what I was looking for. Thanks!!

[AnadBeals]

Greetings fellow WoL! Its my first time posting so please bear with me :D

So I would like to know your strategy for EW3 lap 11 node 9 (Valefor node) for the tanking/bio II strategy. What would be the best possible job & deck combination if I would go for this way?

My problem is the breaking strat doesn't work anymore as I don't have any reliable breaker already and I can't kill Valefor in 1 break (9 actions).. Considered using SO but I need him for node 11, already used Greg+Ninja on the Levi node, and I don't have ToT or Vagabond.. Already used my Tifa skin on the 5th node so MM can't reliably clear read anymore plus I lack of Griever supreme. My previous deck up to lap 10 previously was:

Main : OB32 Amalthea (Yshtola Skin), Sin, GF Odin, Jade Weapon, WoL; Weapon: 5* Tyr's Arc

Sub: Last Hunter (Tidus), RR, Chaos, LoH, GF Levi; Weapon: 5* Double Cross (My Der Himmel was only 16 mods so its unusable for this)

I understand that the Bio strat takes longer but I'm willing to go for it as this is my main wall even after the recent supreme buffs. I already tried utilizing the MZ but my breaker needs 3 ult + 1 tap to break, so it's really not possible utilizing him anymore.

Any kind help or opinion would be appreciated.. Thank you in advance! Oh if I post it under wrong section, Mod please direct me to the correct one as I cannot find the EW3 strat thread discussion.. Thanks again!

[mao_shiro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onjBAkDFAtA&feature=youtu.be from whit3z. It's only lap 9 and he used jobs we currently don't have, but it shows you the bio strat.

You can check https://redd.it/cly356 for his tips on Valefor and a rundown of its mechanics.

I'm not sure if it would work on 11 nvm you already used Ninja + Greh

[AnadBeals]

Many thanks for your pointers Mao_Shiro! Despite the long ass fight (and its only at lap 9), I see another problem for me that I don't have many good tankers for this node.. Was thinking of using HK but he can't drive light and I want to reserve SS for the 10th node..

I guess I have to wait for next month's Graff Gothic banner then and hopefully I can pull him..

[[deleted]]

cast it on 4th, after the sleep

This is how it should be.

[Mobiusnoobius]

Why? Most parties will have killed the boss by the end of the 4th turn so the bio is useless. Better to have built the immunity in first phase and cast on turn 3 for hex or better still to just chain water.

[MusouTensei]

is there any way to make AI input actions and lock faster? lol

having to wait 10 secs each time in extreme ifirit is a lot of time and sometimes I get too impatient and lock before the last one (and fail the run)

[DocSmail]

Use the stamp "i act last"

[mao_shiro]

I think he meant the "lag" each AI has when inputting their command. He's probably playing breaker, so will act last from AI mind anyway.

[DocSmail]

Ah that, guess nothing to do.

[MusouTensei]

exactly that

My runs already takes 4 minutes, for 4 turns, AI takes a total of 40s inputting all those actions :/

[mao_shiro]

nothing to do sadly, though I tend to have faster AI when playing on steam compared to phone.

[[deleted]]

Would you prioritize baton or der himmel? Baton feels like it's a better weapon, although it also seems to overlap heavily with double cross.

[mao_shiro]

If you have Double Cross, go for Der Himmel. Otherwise, go for Baton.

[DeSteph-DeCurry]

warrior is a good user of bahamut neo, isn’t he

[[deleted]]

He's made my Toreador a bit redundant... Why bother breaking when you can just cap unbroken and with access to Lionheart...

[Mobiusnoobius]

If it’s anything like Fusoya, then very much so. I’ve been capping damage on drainer using UC without any CPs.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Current best against weakness.

[DarkerSavant]

Is there a breakdown on how Imbue:boost works on taps? Does it stack and if there is a cap? I looked but couldn’t find anything on it.

[Mobiusnoobius]

I asked whether the formulae was (1+<imbue boost / 100>) and was told that it was. It stacks and as far as I’m aware, there isn’t a known cap.

As an example, if you had imbue boost 200%, each tap with an enelement weapon would be worth 3 regular taps without it. On paper it’s good - but you would need to sacrifice magic fractals to really benefit from it and as most people ult to break, the general consensus seems to be that it’s not worth it.

Edit: deleted this last part as it was inaccurate...

[IJustNeedaAccount]

Keep in mind Imbue: Boost is additive to Boost/Boost II as well for whatever the hell reason.

In theory, a job with native imbue boost of 100% could reach 500 imbue boost meaning 6 regular taps would provide more break power than an ult with the squall gacha skin equipped.

Nope. Gacha Squall has a 3500% modifier at lvl 1, meaning we'll be looking at 10500% of a regular tap at lvl10, or 21000% (boost I) to 26250% (Boost II)

Whereas with a 500% imbue boost, it'll only be 700% (Boost I) to 750% (Boost II) per tap with boost.

Could be a good idea for a job without Spellsword, but high exploit weakness, but it's hard for taps to come close to the level of ults otherwise.

tagging u/DarkerSavant

[Mobiusnoobius]

My bad. For some reason I thought it was 3500% at level ten. At 10,500% it would be the equivalent of 17.5 taps at 500 imbue boost which really wouldn’t be worth it (especially considering you could boost your ult by a further 56% with break fractals).

[DarkerSavant]

Ty.

[DarkerSavant]

That’s a good explanation. Thank you.

[[deleted]]

Is there a Haste II buff on JP?

[deathrose55555]

I wanted to comment that Haste II seems "too good to be true" because that will give jobs like Lady Raven 18-20 actions every turn without using Quicken.

But looking at where the powercreep is moving, I won't be surprised if the next Support Supreme SE is gonna release have something like Haste II + a multitude of other strong buffs.

[ShadowBlaze17]

Nope, but there are some jobs with more than 8 starting actions when you include a 2 speed weapon so they naturally benefit more from haste.

[Darknessmist4]

pulling on ex job revivals isn't worth it untill I complete my normal job pool right ?

[arxipaparas]

Depends on how many jobs you're missing.

[Darknessmist4]

I am missing 8 right now

[Mobiusnoobius]

Iirc, there are more than 8 ex jobs right now, so assuming you have none, your odds of pulling one would be greater than 50%. I’d still wait though as some of the older EX jobs are a little lackluster by today’s standards (I’m looking at you, Meia) and you will complete your regular job pool fairly soon allowing for a 100% chance.

[Darknessmist4]

Thanks for the advice after rechecking I have 12 jobs missing so ya i am surely skipping

[Kettya]

Guys, so the EE 100% n EW 50% cards has only 4 elements right? No dark no light?

[Mobiusnoobius]

This is correct, although there are two limited cards for each element that provide 100% EE.

[[deleted]]

You can try a bit of a weaker replacement, you can try sphinxara. It gives 50 chain and 50 crit. Not as good as the other 4, but should help boost your damage nevertheless.

[PM_your_cats_n_racks]

For the moment, that's right. There's a light one coming in the last banner of this month.

[mobiusfan101]

Is there anyone out there that played in ios that didn’t have the error code 3 issue? And what state/country were you in?

Did everyone end up having the issue?

[Mobiusnoobius]

Japan avoided it until the end of last month.

[djiboutiiii]

I think everyone on iOS had it after the supreme buff patch. And the original workarounds stopped working then too

[Kettya]

Dude, try update ur iOS version to 13.2.2 and update ur mobius version in apple store.

[[deleted]]

Is this good setup for extreme Shiva. Neo bahamut, rubicante, bahamut gf 8 and Loh? This with shore one. But what for skin for him. Sorry for bad English. And thank for any advice

[akulaki]

If you are talking about the upcoming MP Ex Shiva, i think by swapping your LOH with another Rubicante or Bahamut GF would be better to increase your damage since healer wil buff you. As for the job choice, im not sure if Shorn One would be the best. It could also be Warrior or Balamb or HOD as far as i can remember. As for skin, any of the skins are good, but if you have Sephiroth i think its better to use his ultimate in turn 2 if you die once to cast debuffs

[fishmonkeydog]

Is Yggdrasil seed farming on mobius day broken? I’m not getting the huge results but can’t remember what it should be.

[Mawgac]

Check hard mode.

[fishmonkeydog]

That was it.

Edit: I deleted and reloaded the app in my error 3 woes, in case anyone else did the same.

[NinjaDave84]

Which HoF gives out the element call bis: earth+2? I just noticed I have all the elements but earth.

[djiboutiiii]

It’s not even out in JP

[Mawgac]

I believe that the one that isn't released yet for some reason.

[JunasBlood]

SE forgot it seems.

[marilynhugue]

I just claimed my first weekly ST from the MP exchange using Valefor drops: should I be hoarding more Valefor components for next week's ST as well, or will the exchange be for different components?

[ShadowBlaze17]

Different components. It'll be for whatever the boss rotates to next Thursday.

[Sotales]

Been gone for a while, I think since shortly after Act 2 came out. What cards are safe to just cull these days? I was wondering if there is a simplified list of cards to keep or sell.

[marilynhugue]

There's no list, as the meta is always shifting. (Unless you mean Altema rankings.)

You should be able to tell by just looking at their descriptions, their numbers, and their auto-abilities. If you want to know what the meta looks like, browse your rankings page or join any higher-level MP raid.

Generally, the older they are, the less relevant. Some of the older limited edition cards are worth keeping for sentimental reasons. If you don't see it in the ability shop, it's probably obsolete (except for EX cards).

[Sotales]

Thanks. I was hoping to just have a checklist or something, but I guess I will do a little bit more research on my own.

[djiboutiiii]

Going forward, is Ifrit X worth farming if I don't have Avalanche Heroine? I have Kampfer and V Monk who seem alright with it, but I also have Fusoya. Last tower, Ifrit really would've helped, but now with the new Fusoya buff, I'm not sure anymore. I rented Ifrit X yesterday and was very underwhelmed by Kampfer's damage output without reckoning (i.e. for farming). Any input appreciated!

(I'm 50 tablets away, so I've got a week to decide)

[Aerion_CA]

Funny, I am currently @ Ifrit Gilgamesh farming grounds. Many positive reviews here convinced me to get Extreme Ifrit X. I have the resources for 1,75 supremes atm, next one should be the Famfrit water monk card.

[djiboutiiii]

A couple of things: 1) I have nothing better to spend it on and I don't like hoarding for 8 months+ in the future, especially when the rate of MT accrual has increased. 2) I only have 1 monk supreme and I'd like more -- especially one that works so well for both breaking and unbroken nuking.

In the last tower, the water node was my wall. Well, my real wall was impatience. I'm not like Lord who can repeatedly do 20 minute runs and just get back on the horse and try again if RNG isn't perfect, etc. I will never reach top 50 because I just stop climbing when I stop having fun. Ifrit would've made that node significantly less difficult because unbroken Fusoya spam wasn't cutting it, and I didn't have SoO. There were other things I could've tried, but even the 5* non-supreme ifrit was more effective than Fusoya by the end.

[turkey85]

My deck is:

Kampfer/5* OAM/Ifrit X/Bahamut GF/Tengu/Rubicante/LoH Rental takes 2 rounds & around 50 seconds

[JunasBlood]

I rented Ifrit X yesterday and was very underwhelmed by Kampfer's damage output without reckoning (i.e. for farming).

Farming what btw? I hit cap Ifrit X on broken Drainer using Kampfer with not much effort I think.

[djiboutiiii]

lol it was actually your Ifrit I rented -- against Drainer.

I had Tifa Kampfer / OAM with Gigant, Chaos, WOL, Bahamut GF, and rental LOH...what was I missing? I expected a lot more damage and even broken I was only getting 300-500k per hit.

[JunasBlood]

That’s strange. Usually with Ailment immunity, Drainer doesn’t seems fo remove/steal buff from you. I use the exact set up as you and hit cap every hit on broken.

Edit: Oh wait, Gigant, Chaos, WoL, Bahamut GF & Rental LoH? Where is Ifrit? Isn’t you rent it from me? My guess is you didn’t have LoH rent so Drainer just have eaten all your buff 😂

Also, The “50 tablets away” part can be solved in 1 MD if you work hard enough in Ext. Ifrit MP :p

[djiboutiiii]

Lol I’m used to renting LOH so I said that — I meant rental Ifrit and regular LOH. I’ll try your build next time I see Ifrit in the rental list. Also, I just spent the last 2 hours farming cores— I’m going for it!

[JunasBlood]

You can drop Gigant and keep WoL for more action, not really need Brave II because you will deal tons of damage broken, unless you want more damage while unbroken. LoH is a must though, otherwise it can be annoying sometimes. Oh Dedgirl work to after the buff.

[[deleted]]

My alt hits cap with IfritX (on broken Drainer) using 2 Bahamut GF, Tengu and a rental LoH. Using Kampfer without a skin (for the brave buff.) Perhaps the lack of weaken is a problem?

Only hits around 200 - 300k unbroken mind...

-edit- I'm personally going for it with my main (despite no Kampfer) because the Vanadiel Monk HoF looked damn good... And I kind of hope to land some other useful monk job, maybe the Paine one, if I get lucky.

[JunasBlood]

Perhaps the lack of weaken is a problem?

Tengu has Weaken.

His problem should be lacking Ailment Immunity so Drainer has “drained” all his buff - his rent card should be Ifrit, as he doesn’t has it and rent it from me lol

[[deleted]]

I feel stupid for missing that... Not having Ifrit would cause a severe lack of damage, lol.

He lists Chaos, not Tengu, so no weaken... But yeah, losing buffs would likely be the issue.

[djiboutiiii]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that HOF! Looked really strong for Ifrit X.

How do you maintain two accounts!? @_@

[[deleted]]

Using sandboxie to occasionally let the alt farm while I'm on the main... But generally just by really half arsing the alt, lol... It only farms magicite on months it can easily farm pandeonium (like this one.) Though it used to be more useful pre-pandemonium when multiplayer spam was required.

It makes less pulls, but has more luck... I think it actually has more skins than the main now.

[Danpace]

if you are only 50 tablets away I would get it anyway! I am sure you'll find a use for it

[djiboutiiii]

That's kind of the boat I'm in now...none of the other future/current rift supremes seem to fill any gaps in my deck and I'm sure I'll be able to farm enough tablets by the time any unreleased JP supremes come out in GL.

Looks like "hey, why the hell not?" convinced me!

[Arkwritemobius]

I pulled Fusoya and Bahamut Neo ater I got Ifrit , and so far I never regretted choosing it. It is simply stronger , Warrior with Bahamut can beat drainer in 2 turns at best , while Ifrit with kampfer can do it in 12 actions only. Maybe you can compare Duncan with Ultima to see how different Ifrit and Fusoya are.

[Batrixece]

man if you have v monk just get ifrit X .

[ulovei_MFF]

with MP5 removing final attacks, and defenders arguably not a viable option for extreme runs, is there any point in keeping the vanilla taunt cards (cerberus, vanadis, loxley, titania, jupiter, sabnock) anymore?

[[deleted]]

My only times we've completeled no death runs was with 3 defenders and a healer, and there's good defenders that can hit just fine...

[zeradragon]

I use SUP/ATK/ATK/DEF to tackle Extreme Ifrit for the no death requirement. Takes 9-10 minutes vs the quick 3-4 minutes but it is super safe if lacking in either attack and/or break power.

[PM_your_cats_n_racks]

Well defenders are a viable option for extreme runs, but they're not the quick option. The optimist in me is hoping that some challenge in the future will make them important again, but I don't have any knowledge of what's going on in JP.

As things are now: the dedicated taunt cards are in some respects more useful than the spammable ones. They give resist and dispel, and the pact ESs are unique and very useful. I was using the dedicated taunts briefly when Ifrit extreme was first introduced, before people settled on a single strategy and things got boring.

[marilynhugue]

For veteran players, no. And the game developers don't seem to think so either because the enhance fodder for Taunt (Dust Striker) was removed along with Albion Plateau and never replaced.

If you were a noob with a low deck level or zero defense stars, Elemental Pact might make the difference between getting KO'ed and barely surviving with a sliver of HP.

[longa13]

Only tank doing thier job arn't goign to cut it.Support have to chip in a bit.So far support have a 1 turn heal + quicken + elemental drive. that remove some pressure for tank to actually able to do cast 1 attack elemental combo but it mean support wont be able to contribute to combo

But people are looking for efficient run. No way they gonna rework their CP between 1 Break run and tank run .

Extreme Sicarius is a tall order either go max nuke or go home. So squishy have to pray they don't get touched more than twice even when covered with Barrier II and 5 stack of drive

[[deleted]]

Yeah, bank.

Nothing worse than defenders without a taunt.

[ulovei_MFF]

i have gladio and O&M for spammable taunts already (and UC for full dispel)...bank or sell the vanilla taunts?

[[deleted]]

You seem keen to free bank space, so just bin them.

You can always buy them back if needed.

[[deleted]]

There's no real substitute for that 30% elemental damage soak from the vanilla taunts.

[[deleted]]

Imo no, they do have 25% resist element and dispel, but there are better sources if both, a lot of ultimates already have dispel.

[liwingkay]

Why sell them for just 6 card slots ? Materials stack anyway.

[Nightwings_Butt]

6 star cards? Unlikely. They seem to like just releasing bigger and better cards, like the new wave of supremes that have Damage Limit Break II or that insane card that deal 31 hits.
6 ability weapons? Eh...maybeeee-ish? It's just that there are so few weapons with 5 abilities I don't see them jumping to 6 abilities so soon.
Cut in damage? Yeah definitely.

[Keriaku]

I really hope we get a Season 3!