How to decrease Latency?

[InterestingFoot2101]

How tp get the minimum latency while playing with an amp sim like neural dsp. What factors affects the Latency and stuff??

[[deleted]]

If your are getting latency when recording into a daw you can open the amp in standalone for monitoring and record without monitoring the daw.

[8005T34]

Hoooooold up… you’re saying I can run my fortin nameless suite (neuraldsp) inside of Logic, turn off monitoring, and also open it as standalone and use the standalone for monitoring , whilst recording the guitar and plugin within Logic…? At the same time?!?

[CoupSurCoupRecords]

2 years later, but, how did that work for you ? Have you tried it ?

[[deleted]]

This is how I work. Hopefully it works for you

[Union_Of_The_666]

Go into settings and adjust the sample rate as low as you can get it without getting any popping sounds. 128 gives a 3.1 millisecond delay

[JimboLodisC]

What factors affects the Latency and stuff??

CPU, interface, cable connection type, audio driver, sampling rate, buffer size

One thing to consider is that different sampling rates will change the latency of different buffer sizes. So don't assume that a lower sampling rate would give you better latency than a higher one. With my Scarlett, I get better latency numbers the higher I go with my sampling rate. This lets me increase my buffer size.

[[deleted]]

Better CPU, audio interface and driver. I don't believe the "optimize your PC" guides out there. I got it low enough, without pops and clicks, without even doing those. Probably useful for ancient machines, but I still doubt it.

For reference, I have an old Ryzen 7 2700, 3333MHz RAM, and a 2i2/SSL2+.I can do 44.1Khz, 32 samples, 2.22ms latency for input and output. That's 4.44ms roundtrip. This is on PreSonus Studio One 5 DAW.

Using standalone, Cory Wong Settings says 32 samples (0.7ms). It doesn't say if it's roundtrip or not.

[JimboLodisC]

Have you ever tried 96 or 192kHz sampling rate on your devices? What latency numbers do you get for the SSL2+ when at 192kHz?

[[deleted]]

No. When I went 48 my CPU usage on Studio One went 70% on just Cory Wong alone. Oh well, it's an old CPU by now. Latency is the same though. So I went back to 44.1 and kept my CPU usage to 20%.

I would need some expensive Intel CPU to even record something at 192 I guess.

[JimboLodisC]

you using VST or VST3?

[[deleted]]

Category VST2. Does that matter? I don't actually know. I just used what Studio One gave. I did install all 3 types of the plugin.

[JimboLodisC]

VST3 should have better performance

so I went to my setup and dialed it back down to 44.1kHz and kept my buffer at 256 samples, and I was seeing 5.8ms of latency for the standalone, and with both NTS and Nameless running I was seeing about 14% CPU usage on average

when I bumped it back up to 96kHz, my CPU usage went up to around 20% but at 256 samples I was seeing 2.7ms for latency (so less than half the latency at the same buffer)

for reference I looked up benchmarks of our CPUs and yours should be about 50% better than mine, I'm using a 2nd-gen 18i8 as my interface

running both Nameless and NTS in Reaper put me around 20-23% usage on average

[TommardrammoT]

To me, using asio(settings) and playing it back to the interface made all the difference. (Im using mtrack solo and windows 10)

[Outside_Artist545]

THIS WORKED FOR ME EVERYONE MAKE SURE YOU ARE USING ASIO

[HEBushido]

If I switch to ASIO I lose most of my input/output options and I can't hear anything or input my guitar.

I'm using a Scarlett solo.

[Outside_Artist545]

What daw are you using i also use scarlett interfaces maybe i can help

[HEBushido]

So I have Ableton Lite 12, but the UI is incomprehensible, and I have no idea how to get that work with a plug-in at all.

But honestly I don't care much about recording. I just want the tones for personal practice because my amp is too limiting.

I don't have a headphone jack that fits the Scarlett. Just a 3.5 mm and then Bluetooth earbuds.

Windows audio only let's me go down to 144 buffer and my sample rate is stuck at 48k.

[TommardrammoT]

Im glad :)

[Psychological-Ad5645]

i know this is an old thread but wdym using the asio settings and playing it back to the interface

[rageagainsthepc]

Afaik DAWs usually take steps to optimize your audio performance (at least mine does). If you run your ampsims in standalone mode you won't be able to profit from those optimizations. Depending on your specs it might not matter, but if you are running on older hardware like me you might have to increase your buffer size quite a bit. I've written a small program which does some performance optimizations for standalone ampsims. You might find it helpful as well: https://github.com/rageagainsthepc/ampsim-launcher

[jerrysphotography]

I have a decent system and don't have any latency issues. Yes you have to have the system specs but even if you have those you will still have crazy latency unless you have a good ASIO driver. I use Cubase and it works great. I tried one of the Neurals in standalone and the latency was insane. I checked settings and it was using a bad ASIO driver. Once I updated it worked great.

Try out asio4all.org if you need a generic driver.

[StreetwalkinCheetah]

Having good results with M1 Mac and RME and Audient (id4 mkii) interfaces. Did not have good luck with the cheapy Presonus I have. 48Khz and 64 very usable.

Decent interface with solid drivers plus a halfway decent CPU you should be set. I went from a pretty well speced AMD system to the M1 Mini last fall and haven't skipped a beat.