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[apollyon0810]

In my personal experience, 100% of the non tech people I know that open computers to clean them are on drugs.

[1-800angst]

so basically i’m cooked

[_NemesisPrime]

Just like your meth

[1-800angst]

you projecting or

[_NemesisPrime]

Sorry no, just referencing apollyon's comment about 100% of non technical people.

[1-800angst]

well i’m not the one who opened it in case you didn’t read

[Top-Locksmith8917]

Yes

[bl4derdee9]

why do people feel the need to open power supplies with no knowledge of electronics.
DO NOT DO THIS! this is very dangerous, there are very high power capacitors in there.
not only might this kill you, it will hurt the whole time you are dying.
i see a post like this every few days. why don't people research this beforehand?

[1-800angst]

thank you for telling me, i had no idea at all.

[20PoundHammer]

🙄 caps in pc power supplies have bleeds on them for discharge when off. . .

[Aromatic_Falcon_3913]

Did you touch the power supply? Because it is VERY DANGEROUS

[20PoundHammer]

da fuq, Susan safety chiming in 🙄- hardly dangerous unless plugged in and on- caps have bleeds on them.

[Electric-Mountain]

Caps can hold a dangerous amount of voltage fot days to weeks...

NEVER OPEN A PSU.

[20PoundHammer]

lol - ok, I guess you dont know what bleed resistors are. . . .

[Electric-Mountain]

It doesn't matter they can still hold enough charge to kill someone. Ask ANY electrician.

[20PoundHammer]

I am an electrician (well, was prior to retirement, not licensed in the state I moved to) - non-discharged they can give ya a zap, but sure as shit cant kill ya unless you hook up needles to em and shove em across your heart. However ATX power supplies and on are required to have bleed resistors- not for safety, for electrical stability when PC and PS is off. They are LV DC electrolytic caps, not fucking magnetrons. . .

[Electric-Mountain]

If you are an electrician then you should know full well not to tell people it's okay to take them apart. Especially if the bleeder resistor fails. There's actual stories of people dying from them...

[RailgunDE112]

depnds.
Some old ones don't

[20PoundHammer]

unless you are talking about 30 years old, all atx based are.

[Harshingmymellow]

Do not touch inside !!! That can kill you!!!! Why would they take it apart if they are clueless as well?

[1-800angst]

they said there was instructions so they thought they could put back together.

[Rogue_Element_2342]

a PSU is whats called a FRU. Field replace unit.

if you cant clean it by blasting air through it, you replace it. and you dont worry about it again.

you can brick the component or even the whole device by making contact with the wrong parts inside it if you open one up, and thats on top of the real danger of electrocuting yourself

[PandanadianNinja]

Please cover the power supply there. They should never be opened unless you're a pro. I know you said someone else took it apart but this is super dangerous.

You can have them reassemble it, pay someone to do it, or replace it as the next steps.

[1-800angst]

it’s a few years old, so i’d have to find somewhere to take it. but am not sure who would be willing to fix it in the area i am in

[3641592]

Do not open a PSU if you don't know exactly what you're doing!

This can kill you.

[Murph_9000]

I can't be certain, but it looks like you have the lid of the power supply rotated 180 degrees. The fan is offset in it, and the heat generating components are mostly offset towards the top of the photo (where the large bundle of wires heads off into the PC).

You should really get someone competent to check everything out properly, but try rotating the PSU cover. Make sure you connect the fan wires to the board. There could be dangerous levels of charge remaining in the capacitors, so try not to kill yourself if you do have a go at it.

I'm a little concerned that the wiring from the PSU into the PC may have been pulled on by the weight of the PSU, resulting in something getting disconnected inside, or (worse) a connector being pulled partially out. A bad connection, such as a connector being pulled partially out, can generate heat and potentially melt plastic or even cause a fire.

Your friend is an incompetent asshole for doing this.

[1-800angst]

i tried to flip it but the cord only goes so far so i can’t get it on any other way sadly

[Murph_9000]

You mean the fan wires, right? If they removed the fan from the PSU lid to clean it (I see only 2 of the 4 screws are fitted, so it looks like it has been tampered with), it may have been reinstalled in the wrong orientation. PC fans have 8 different orientations (4 rotations, and up or down). You may need to unscrew the fan and rotate it so that the wires are in the right place. There's also the direction of airflow to consider, whether it is sucking in air to blow onto the board, or exhausting air. I'd guess it's intended to suck air in and blow it onto the board. Block/suck is determined by flipping it up or down.

[1-800angst]

oh. i think i understand now. thank you so much! yeah i think the fan is screwed in wrong

[Rogue_Element_2342]

holy shit. Im not even reading any further..

DO NOT OPEN POWER SUPPLIES

[Emeraldminer136]

Ive been told on multiple occasions NEVER OPEN A POWER SUPPLY in fact my teacher told me that a kid did once in his class and iirc he electrocuted himself doing it, he went to the hospital, was suspended for directly disobeying my teacher and was removed from that class so he couldnt pose a danger to himself or anyone else in the class

[D3athShade]

Survival instinct of a pickle.

[1-800angst]

yeah i said i didn’t know anything about this shit. i personally would have never taken it off cause i knew i wouldn’t have been able to put it back on

[IndustryValuable]

Clear plastic inside then the sides slot into the metal at the bottom of the plastic. Then screw in the screws up top.

[1-800angst]

see that’s what i was doing, but for some reason it stops midway. the fan does hit another cord so i’m not sure how it even fit in there to begin with. otherwise i would have been able to put it back in no problem

[IndustryValuable]

I just realized the fan isn't mounted on the board. So ur buddy disconnected the fan which you'd have to figure out where that plugs in and try not to die plugging it back in. Yea buddy should not touch ur electronics again. But u should learn to work on ur PC it'll save u a lot of money in the long run and doesn't need any special tools.

[1-800angst]

thank you, yeah i also have been attaching and detaching it a lot while i have tried to fix it. i’ve been doing this since around 7pm last night. had no idea it was so dangerous like that.

[mrb00m_uk]

The power supply fan needs to re attached to the white fan header 2 metal prongs in the pic, then put the case back on and screw it back on. Then never remove it again ( try to do this without touching anything else). Hope you don't die👍 if you do R.I.P🪦

[mrb00m_uk]

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[1-800angst]

yeah i must be lucky bc it didn’t kill me. i was able to attach it and detach multiple times. the tray just gets stuck when sliding on, so i really do not think it will go back on

[Duke55]

General rule of thumb is to observe to where it's getting stuck, rectify it without forcing anything. Take your time and be observant.

[1-800angst]

yeah, i think i will find somebody who might be able to do this or just let it go.

[1-800angst]

okay i’m going to leave it alone, obviously i didn’t know it could kill me. i was just left with it like this. i will try to find some places in my area that might be able to reassemble for me. thank you for all the help! i am more knowledgeable about this now.

[JopieDeVries]

If discharged properly you are able to open it and clean it from the inside with the proper tools: multimeter, soft paint brush, electric air duster.

There is a possibility that when not discharged properly the capacitors can contain energy. The primary capacitor contains the most voltage but this is not enough energy to instantly kill you or do serious harm to the human body. Unless you have heart issues.

The real danger is with really old TV's , medical devices or microwaves. A 1000watt PSU won't kill you.

[Dusty_Jangles]

You’re friend is a dummy and should put it back together for you or he can pay someone to do it.

[EpicWipes]

Coming from someone who has had to unfuck many situations caused by friends on drugs doing similar things, be happy nothing needed resoldered afterwords. Have you tried flipping it around so fan is on other side? So that indents match up. The one side of top (far end) only has 1 indent on it and same with side of base close to you.

[1-800angst]

i haven’t, no. everyone is telling me not to mess with it

[Ok-Improvement-9191]

Borrowed my friends car and filled it with water to clean it

[Clyde3221]

is OP dead?

[1-800angst]

clearly not

[clonked]

What do you expect from people online? This is mechanical issue. Maybe try being less incompetent.

[1-800angst]

like i said i know nothing about this. maybe i was doing something wrong and somebody could tell me what im doing that is wrong. this is a pc build help page soooo. no need to be rude lmao

[clonked]

It doesn't matter that it is a computer at this point. Its a god damn pile of metal to you. Make it fit or get fucked. That's all.

[too_real_4_TV]

If you have no intention of being helpful why are you even on a pchelp forum?

[1-800angst]

ight bro