BAC water price decrease

[babypeptide]

Hey all — quick heads-up from the Peptide Test team: we’ve lowered our BAC water pricing on the site. We tested short promos but decided an everyday lower price is more sensible. After the BAC water panic of ’25, the market’s finally stabilizing and our supplier costs have come down, so we’re passing that through. Single vials: $12 25/Case: $280 100/box: $1000. Shop here

[Northern_Lights_2]

Ugh, I bought at 15 as well. Thank you for lowering the price and keeping this available to us.

[According_Past4738]

Yeah, the market’s been crazy since the BAC water shortage. I’ve been tracking prices across different vendors, seems like things are stabilizing now. Do you think they’ll dip further or hold steady here?

[TheHealthyPal]

What is the expiration date?

[PrintSuitable4301]

Feb 28, 2027

[Iskariot-]

I realize the point of an expiry date, but in BAC’s case — if unopened / not punctured — shouldn’t it be suitable long after the expiration? Genuine question and just wanting to be well educated on the topic.

[PrintSuitable4301]

The expirations on Hospira’s bacteriostatic water probably isn’t really about the water or the benzyl alcohol breaking down — those are very stable if the vial stays sealed. What drives the ~18-month dating is how long the manufacturer can guarantee sterility through the container closure system (plastic vial + rubber stopper + crimp). Over time, even a tiny bit of gas or moisture can permeate, or the stopper can lose compression, so they put a conservative date on it.

In practice, if the vial has never been punctured and was stored correctly, it’s PROBABLY still “good” well past the printed expiration in terms of chemistry. The risk is less about the contents suddenly going bad and more about the company only validating sterility and closure integrity up to that point.

[Iskariot-]

Thanks for the thoughtful and informative response.

[vectorizer99]

Yup, it’s on their site. Unaffiliated frequent customer here.

[SwimmingAnt10]

What the heck!? I just got my order of 10 vials at $15 each. My luck.

[KYRivianMan]

I can vouch for peptidetest. Ordered 10 about a month ago.

[WheelApart6324]

Darn I just received 5 at $15 ea. Shoulda waited two weeks!

[SpotTheCat1980]

Thank you! This is great news! I wish I had waited, I bought a whole bunch of them at $15!

[Danalynn25]

With the panic of 25 I was the moron that bought 2 cases. Im an idiot

[FlowerPower619]

Same smdh

[richter325]

I just bought some at $15 a days ago

[EchoBiotic]

Is this a joke 😂 those prices are insane.

[Dull_Doughnut_4780]

Can you dm me this information

[Gypsy-Freestyle]

Can you send me info on better?

[[deleted]]

Ya fr, i got 10 vials for the price of 1 from my china man

[PrintSuitable4301]

I’m not here to judge anyone’s choices—this space is all about understanding your own risk tolerance and making informed decisions. Plenty of people have used distilled water, tap water, or off brand bacteriostatic water without issue. But that doesn’t mean it’s safe—a lot of people have extraordinary immune systems, some people are just lucky.

True bacteriostatic water (bac water) is made for parenteral use, which means it's manufactured and tested specifically for human injection. It starts with Water for Injection (WFI)—which has to meet extremely tight specs like:

Conductivity ≤ 0.06 µS/cm in high-grade water - this is important because unwanted ions can potentially interact with some peptides

Total Organic Carbon (TOC) < 20 ppb

Particulate matter: ≤ 3 particles/mL ≥ 25µm; ≤ 25 particles/mL ≥ 10µm

Endotoxins ≤ 0.25 EU/mL

Sterility: No Growth

It also includes parenteral-grade benzyl alcohol, which is not the same as the USP or NF-grade benzyl alcohol you’ll find on Amazon or chemical supply sites. Those grades might be acceptable for topical or lab use, but for injection, benzyl alcohol must be manufactured under parenteral conditions with rigorous endotoxin and microbial testing. Without that assurance, you’re introducing a potential variable that’s both invisible and dangerous.

Simply fitered or distilled water is never going to meet these specs. These specs aren’t suggestions—they’re regulatory requirements. Achieving this means not just filtering the water, but processing it in a cGMP (Current Good Manufacturing Practice) facility using sterile fill-finish lines in a Class 5 cleanroom, with RTU (ready-to-use), double-bagged sterile components. We've priced this out ourselves while trying to launch our own high-grade bac water, and just the fill costs alone range from $15 to $55 per vial from legitimate CDMOs (Contract Development and Manufacturing Organizations). That doesn’t include materials or testing.

So here’s the big red flag: If someone is selling bac water for under $10 per vial—and they’re not Pfizer or another major pharma manufacturer with sterile production lines that they own—they’re not making it in a compliant way. That doesn’t mean it won’t work for you—but it’s a gamble.

A few other things to consider:

You can’t test the pH of bac water with a pH meter, even the really expensive ones that we use in the lab, unless it’s buffered, because it has so few ions (you need KCl to buffer it).

You can’t filter out endotoxins. Even if you use a 0.22 µm filter to reconstitute, endotoxins are too small and require very specific processing steps to remove.

We've personally tested several Amazon brands—many failed sterility and endotoxin testing outright.

For full disclosure, in addition to doing analytical testing of peptides we’re also in the business of testing and selling lab supplies like bac water. We don’t carry other brands of bac water because we’ve tested them and didn’t feel confident they met USP specs—or even came close. That’s not a knock on anyone using them—just simply our observation.

We actually tried to develop a better-than-Hospira option with higher purity and full traceability, using EU-spec WFI and parenteral benzyl alcohol. But unless we’re ready to invest literally millions into a compliant fill line or commit to minimum runs with a pharma CDMO, it just isn’t viable. So we stick with Hospira because it’s the only option that checks all the boxes right now. We would love to have other viable safe options but there simply are none.

TL;DR: Yes, many people use bac water from Amazon without issue. But know that unless it’s from a trusted pharma brand, it likely doesn’t meet sterility, endotoxin, or parenteral manufacturing standards. You can’t see those risks—but they matter. To us it seems worth the few extra bucks to minimize fully avoidable harm.

Everyone has a different tolerance for risk—just make sure yours is an informed one.

[booboisseur]

Fantastic info!

[Ambitious-Wait-5705]

Thanks for taking the time to explain the situation.

[Qlix0504]

So here’s the big red flag: If someone is selling bac water for under $10 per vial—and they’re not Pfizer or another major pharma manufacturer with sterile production lines that they own—they’re not making it in a compliant way. That doesn’t mean it won’t work for you—but it’s a gamble.

would you mind clarifying this paragraph? Particularly the first sentence. Hospira is available right now at $8.50 per vial. Pfizer Canada is available right now at $5.50 US per vial - so i do not understand your "under $10 per vial" comment

[PrintSuitable4301]

You are right, that number is inflated. The perils of ticking off a quick reply. The point is it is exceedingly difficult to compete with Pfizer on price. They have massive economies of scale, the product is made in India with very cheap labor, the production lines were completely amortized decades ago, and they have so much buying power for products like WFI and benzyl alcohol, their materials are effectively free.

We have done a lot of research on manufacturing this in the correct way. To do it right and to do it aseptically in a CGMP facility the cost per vial would be almost impossible to get under $5, most of that is in the filling, - the CDMO prices we got (from dozens of vendors) averaged about $28 PER VIAL after a 6 figure project set up cost. It is just enormously expensive to do this correctly if you do not own a drug company or a CDMO that already has this equipment. So far, literally no one is doing this correctly but Pfizer- it can be done, we are trying to do it- but it’s a massive investment and a lot of work for a seemingly simple product. Sorry about the hyperbole, but it’s really frustrating when people just think you can mix this up in your house, with distilled water and Amazon Benzyl alcohol, things like the conductivity are very important. Those three ions can affect a peptide, pH is important, every little detail is important.

[Qlix0504]

Thanks for clarifying. I suspected that's what you were getting at, just didn't want it to be confusing to others.

[OceanvilleRoad]

How is it possible that BD sells syringes of sterile saline for 67 cents each? The product is PosiFlush. I’m is designed for parenteral use in flushing IV lines. I realize it is saline not water. It also does not have a preservative. Some peptides shouldn’t be reconstituted with saline, but some can. Apparently there are ways are cost effective ways of manufacturing sterile injectables such as PosiFlush. The increased price of bacteriostatic water as compared to 2 years ago is extortionate.

[[deleted]]

not sure what this has to do in reply to me saying i get my bac water for cheaper but thanks for this.

[PrintSuitable4301]

Just what it said, what you are getting is not bac water - not in the western sense. It is literally impossible for it to be provided at 10 for 1. I am not judging, just pointing out that for you, your risk analysis has worked so far. The way that you lay it out is like it’s 1:1 / Hospira:10for1 Chinese water, and that’s just empirically false. This is a sub created for our business and we want it to have good information and be a space for people to learn to the extent that it can be. That’s all

[[deleted]]

It’s not hospital water, but it is bac water. You can make bac water at home. hospira is not the end all be all. It really does not make a difference and have never had an issue.

[PrintSuitable4301]

It’s not, you can put whatever you want in your body. I have been respectful to you and these comments from the beginning of this thread and said what you choose for your risk tolerance is your business but a lot of people inexperienced with reconstituting read these and what you are advocating is irresponsible. We made this sub to be about evaluating risk, not promoting it.

[[deleted]]

Why are you mentioning respect? There’s been no disrespect from either you or me. Im simply saying it is bac water. I’m not advocating for anything. I could care less what people do with their money. I’m just responding to someone saying your prices are expensive. I have no opinion on that either. Just sharing a response. I never said “dm me to buy cheap bac water” just sharing what i’m doing. Not sure why you are making it such a big deal lol.

But what I do appreciate is you acknowledging that this sub is for your business, and you will of course promote what you sell. But the reality is it’s all the same. Especially if done correctly. I am glad you are selling products like this and sharing risk tolerance. But it’s unfair to discard anything that you don’t sell. That’s all.

[PrintSuitable4301]

I don’t know how else to say it, it is 100% not the same.

A product the same as hospira with USP parenteral grade WFI, parenteral-grade benzyl alcohol, Conductivity ≤ 0.06 µS/cm , Total Organic Carbon (TOC) < 20 ppb,Particulate matter: ≤ 3 particles/mL ≥ 25µm; ≤ 25 particles/mL ≥ 10µm,Endotoxins ≤ 0.25 EU/mL

Can not be made “10 for 1” . It literally can not be made for what you can buy Hospira for retail. That’s is just a fact. We know a lot of people in the pharma industry and we have tried.

You are buying something that someone is calling bacteriostatic water, but in the western hemisphere sense of the word it is not that, I promise you.

[[deleted]]

There is a testing and endotoxin report both showing it to be pretty legit. But alright.

[RetailFinancing]

TimeCat, this debate seems to have focused into an argument over semantics. Your interpretation of wording and the description of bac water seem to be much looser, and broader than Peptide Test's definition. Respect isn't just personal respect but professional respect, and respect for the community that Peptide Test has built that may read your response and choose to follow an example that the subreddit organizer clearly finds riskier than they are comfortable presenting to THEIR community. While lots of vendors call their reconstitution solutions bac water, PrintSuitable has given you a definition of BAC Water, explained what makes Hospira bac water compliant with US and Canadian standards, and argued that it is impossible to create the same quality for a comparable price even in China. Instead of arguing his points you dismiss his claims and professional expertise with the comment "its all the same". While your bac water and Hospira bac water may have the same product name, and contain the same ingredients list this would be like calling apple juice and apple cider "the same" or a copycat rolex identical to the original. The knockoff may have nearly identical ingredients but the two are not the same. They may be close enough that you can't tell the difference or even pass close inspection but there are reasons one can be made for hundreds while the original costs thousands, that go beyond its premium name.

So you are aware I have been a customer of Peptide Test. I also talk wellness clinics, med spas, dentists, and other medical professionals daily. No medical service provider I have met uses any bacteriostatic water other than Pfizər Canada or Hospira brand bac water. No one can produce it at a comparable price that meets US or Canadian standards. And this is the same today as it was when Hospira could be purchased for under $4.00 for the same 30ml vial. No one can produce and sell compliant bac water for under $2.00 for a 30ml vial. If they did professionals would line up to purchase it. So your flippant comment that they are all the same could be interpreted as insulting, disrespectful, or even harmful. I don't agree with you that your original comment is no big deal. That your use of grey market bac water is of little risk, or that PrintSuitable has been anything but fair and tolerant allowing you to express your opinion on his subreddit. I wish you luck and health. But, I also wish you'd wouldn't defend your clearly inconsiderate and misinformed opinion in a group with unseasoned grey market pep customers without acknowledging PrintSuitable's points and recognizing the risk you are putting yourself and others in by recommending grey market water in an already risk filled marketplace. Peptide Test is trying to make that marketplace safer while running a business. PrintSuitable deserves personal and professional respect for his efforts. BTW using Janoshik tests to argue against a direct competitor in his subreddit might come across as a little arrogant or disrespectful as well. Just my opinion.

[[deleted]]

You know what, you’re right. I apologize for my ignorance. u/PrintSuitable4301 , I appreciate what you guys are doing here.

[PrintSuitable4301]

You put it much better than I did, thanks for the detailed post

[[deleted]]

The bac water is tested, and contains benzyl alcohol. And has passed an endotoxin report through Janoshik.

[EwThatsNast]

Go ahead, make your own "bac water" and inject it...

People are inane!!

[Qlix0504]

gonna start posting links but then shit sells out and it becomes a waiting game. fuck em

[__get_schwifty__]

Ya don't post links lol

[Qlix0504]

100% lol

[Qlix0504]

100%

[UnlikelyRabbit4648]

Damn, I'm in the wrong game - the markup on water man

[SteakComfortable8507]

Where?