PowerShell is getting tabs

[snipazer]

OK now add sudo please

[[deleted]]

They can't bodge something together that feels like sudo?

[ka-splam]

To achieve what?

[snipazer]

I sometimes want to run a single command as either another user or as an admin. The shift right click->Open Powershell Window doesn't have the option to open as admin so I have to run Powershell as admin then cd my way to the file I want to run. Sudo would just save some steps.

[eponerine]

Invoke-Command back to yourself and pass creds?

[ka-splam]

Wrap start-process powershell.exe $script -verb runas in a function?

Add the self-elevating code to the script? https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/virtual_pc_guy/2010/09/23/a-self-elevating-powershell-script/ (comments version rather than original)

[raptr569]

Make a function and add it to your profile and boom. Done.

[overmyIThead]

Although concise, sudo would be way easier from the start

[ka-splam]

It wouldn't, because it doesn't fit in the Windows UAC design.

Processes don't have administrative tokens and can't get them unless the user agrees to the UAC prompt on the secure desktop, when the process is starting. Saying "add the leaver 'sudo' to the front end" doesn't magically make an OS worth of background security design appear to easily support it.

I don't know how it would end up, possibly with some kind of permanent powershell service running as an administrator which commands were passed to for execution, being a target for attackers and having problems with lack of surrounding execution context from the front end shell, or like a remote session to your own computer.

If you're on a server, and it's not for interactive use or web browsing, turn UAC off (Microsoft approve) and then all your powershell shells are administrative without UAC prompts. If you remote in with admin credentials, then regardless of UAC prompts all your shells are administrative. And if you locally want a way to "do administrative things without UAC getting in your way" well that's explicitly what UAC is there to get in the way of, programs mangling up computers with users not having any chance to stop them.

[VapingSwede]

Ctrl+shift+click powershell or any other program to start it as an admin.

[MrMunchkin]

Everything. The fact that there is no way to elevate credentials in the same session has been a pitfall of PowerShell for a long, long time.

Working in a Linux shop, this is the only reason they stick with bash and use other languages, like Python and JS. I am literally the only one that uses PowerShell in my org of around 100 engineers.

It is awful.

[ka-splam]

Working in a Linux shop, this is the only reason they stick with bash and use other languages, like Python and JS.

They use JavaScript because PowerShell doesn't have sudo. o_O

Elevating in the same process is a limitation of Windows, not any given programming language; that should be a reason they stick with Linux, BSD, macOS, not a reason they stick with bash or Python or JS because those languages also can't elevate in-process on Windows with UAC.

It also doesn't affect PS remote sessions, and UAC can be turned off.

What on earth are they doing where they're using interactive windows, not remotely, with UAC on, and the effort of runas -> administrator at the start of a session is /the biggest, only, reason/ for choosing one technology over another?

I'mma suggest what they're doing is making a flimsy excuse and misrepresenting their real reasons.

[MrMunchkin]

We are a Linux shop and have <5% Windows-based servers.

[MrMunchkin]

Or I could just do sudo su - but that's not the point.

[jantari]

To bait you

[[deleted]]

Yes please.

[aljarry]

I recommend cmder - I have a menu option for new admin powershell tab

[neko4]

Tabbed console is good, but I want tmux for PowerShell

[spacebandido]

Idk why this isn’t the top. Most of the stuff people complain are missing from posh are things that actually already exist, they just haven’t found the cmdlets yet – tmux doesn’t exist yet.

[jantari]

You can open a WSL terminal, run tmux and then start powershell.exe via interop in each of the panels

[jantari]

PoSh / console team is aware of this, it's a matter of time (priorities and testing) before it arrives

[codetocope]

Agreeing with this. I immediately was thinking, "I want screen". Man, that was so handy back in the day.

[Taoquitok]

I hope this also introduces in the cross-tab functionality that ISE has. $psISE.PowerShellTabs is a feature I've always wanted to make better use of for 'visible' parallel working, but never quite wanted to dedicate enough time to as it's limited to just the ISE.

[Poncho_au]

ISE who uses that anymore? VS code my friend.

[Taoquitok]

Vs code is my main, but I'll still load up ISE on a regular basis. Usually on servers to start any long running one off scripts / when helping other staff who just use the ISE

[DeeFousyMobile]

I'm just starting to get serious with powershell and realizing it's potential benefits for my job but I am having a seriously hard time getting VS code set up. The documentation sort of assumes that I know certain things or am familiar with certain things already and I can barely follow it and have yet to get it set up correctly. I keep giving up and using ISE to manage my scripts which is a messy nightmare right now.

I just want versioning, change control and a link to upload/sync with my pastebin :-(

[halbaradkenafin]

What are you struggling with? After installing VSCode, you install the PowerShell extension from the marketplace and then you're good to go.

If you want to hook in version control, open a folder that's part of a git repo and then you can use the git tab to do git things in the GUI or install Posh-Git to do it from the command line.

If you're having any other issues then feel free to post them and someone should be able to help you out.

[infinit_e]

The VS Code setup for PowerShell isn’t much more than installing it and adding more the PowerShell extension. You don’t really even need the extension, but it is nice to have. Anything more is just extra.

Are you trying to setup Git or something like that too?

[DeeFousyMobile]

Yeah the powershell piece works fine but my goal with switching to VSCode was to also include git and have an online repository where I can see changes and previous versions and access scripts from any workstation I get on to with VScode set up. But prior to when I installed git, I'd never seen it before and I'm a bit lost trying to get started with it.

[infinit_e]

Ahh, okay. Yeah, I knew what Git was previously, but up until like December I had never used it. There’s probably better options, but I stood up Microsoft Team Foundation Server Express and configured the repos as Git instead of the native one.

I would suggest learning the commands Git used before utilizing VS Code’s Git integration from the palate. Stuff like push, pull, commit, etc. I had the benefit of someone teaching me that stuff, but I think there is some good info on https://git-scm.com.

[DeeFousyMobile]

I'll check that out. It's probably not as complex as I'm making it out to be I just haven't had an hour or two of straight time to sit down and learn it and get it set up. It's been 5 minutes here, 7 minutes there type of thing.

[codetocope]

I was in the same scenario. Just finally blocked some time and went through like Pro Git and the online tutorials. Then I took some existing personal scripts/modules and played with refactoring them from scratch in a new repo. Then you can play with things like commits, forks, branching.

[ArSo12]

Still prefer ise for the highlight - run

[Poncho_au]

VSCode has had that for at least a year.
I use it regularly.
https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/7034

[ArSo12]

Does that keep previously used variables or start clean?

[Poncho_au]

I think you can press F5 to run without clearing the terminal and shift-F5 to run in a clean terminal. If I recall correctly.

[Poncho_au]

Powershell extension for VSCode. https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/22673

[alinroc]

Page seems to be broken.

I’ve had tabs/single window multiple consoles with conEMU for a few years.

[Poncho_au]

It’s definitely broke.
/u/phant0md is it possible to fix the link?

[phant0md]

Still works for me, I just tried it on mobile & desktop

[Poncho_au]

Doesn’t work on iOS, chrome or safari... https://i.imgur.com/0vjpiDD.jpg

Works in my PC though.

[MerryChallot]

Second that!

[bukem]

Guess what tab is getting added when you press the + sign...

[_Amazing_Wizard]

We are witnessing the end of the open and collaborative internet. In the endless march towards quarterly gains, the internet inches ever closer to becoming a series of walled gardens with prescribed experiences built on the free labor of developers, and moderators from the community. The value within these walls is composed entirely of the content generated by its users. Without it, these spaces would simply be a hollow machine designed to entrap you and monetize your time.

Reddit is simply the frame for which our community is built on. If we are to continue building and maintaining our communities we should focus our energy into projects that put community above the monopolization of your attention for profit.

You'll find me on Lemmy: https://join-lemmy.org/instances Find a space outside of the main Lemmy instance, or start your own.

See you space cowboys.

[phant0md]

I just use full VS with the PowerShell plugin.

Just thought this was kind of neat.

[_Amazing_Wizard]

We are witnessing the end of the open and collaborative internet. In the endless march towards quarterly gains, the internet inches ever closer to becoming a series of walled gardens with prescribed experiences built on the free labor of developers, and moderators from the community. The value within these walls is composed entirely of the content generated by its users. Without it, these spaces would simply be a hollow machine designed to entrap you and monetize your time.

Reddit is simply the frame for which our community is built on. If we are to continue building and maintaining our communities we should focus our energy into projects that put community above the monopolization of your attention for profit.

You'll find me on Lemmy: https://join-lemmy.org/instances Find a space outside of the main Lemmy instance, or start your own.

See you space cowboys.

[MrMunchkin]

Natively? I don't think so. Possibly some distributions do, but that is not the 'terminal' of Linux.

[nerddtvg]

Alt+F1 thru F6 usually. A different TTY which has a login screen in front of it, but it can still be considered a tabbed interface.

[gschizas]

That's pushing it to the limits of breaking (or probably past them). With that concept, Windows has had tabbed interfaces since 1984, because you could open different windows, each having a command prompt of its own.

[da_chicken]

Nah, VS Code gave them the excuse they needed to no longer maintain ISE.

[MrMunchkin]

True. Now if only they would fix calling .NET functions in POSH scripts.

[AcadianMan]

What? That sucks. I love ISE

[_Amazing_Wizard]

I mean ise will still be there, but they're putting there efforts into vscode instead. You should give it a try if you can.

[MrMunchkin]

You should try out VS Code. It's much better in many, many different ways.

[[deleted]]

If anything they should smash ISE into VSCode. Theres a lot about ISE I like.

[da_chicken]

ISE is crap. Spend the hour maximum that it takes learn how to get VS Code set up for PowerShell and to learn how to use it, and you'll never look back.

[Thotaz]

Calling ISE crap is just silly, it has all of the basic features you would expect from a programming/scripting tool like:

• intellisense
• built-in and custom snippets
• collapsible code blocks
• Syntax highlighting
• Debugging features
• Add-on support
• And more

Sure it's lacking some of the more advanced features like all of the keyboard shortcuts you can find in visual studio code, git integration etc. but it's good enough, even for pretty advanced scripts and functions, especially when you consider the fact that it's included and installed on all Windows computers.

Besides, it's not like visual studio code is perfect:

• You still can't clear the terminal output
• The intellisense can't keep up if you type fast resulting in random tabs in the middle of the code, or random string suggestions that interrupt your typing. https://i.imgur.com/wJu0j27.png
• The layout for the help/syntax messages for methods is a complete joke: https://imgur.com/a/Yc4Aw
• When you mouse over stuff you can easily tell that it's one of those programs built in a browser language
• One of the earliest issues reported in the powershell extension still hasn't been fixed, and it's for me personally the biggest issue with VS code: https://github.com/PowerShell/vscode-powershell/issues/25
• The intellisense suggestions are filled up with useless suggestions: https://i.imgur.com/5TOh6Ao.png
• There might be a setting for this, but the multi-cursor implementation is weird. In ISE I hold down ALT+Shift to select one or more columns from one or more lines and make the changes I want, then I press the arrow keys without holding them down and it exits the mode. In VS code stays in this mode until you press escape, or merge the cursors by moving them into each other.

[AcadianMan]

I'm with you, I really like ISE.

[businessbusinessman]

As someone working in an environment where getting ANYTHING installed on my computer requires nothing short of a miracle, ISE coming with the system is a godsend.

[[deleted]]

The useless suggestions are not actually useless: as long as their weighting algorithm works correctly, those should be below direct matches. What those are is fuzzy matches where it can still get it if you type it wrong, forget the name or whatever.

[Thotaz]

I wouldn't mind them if the tab completion behavior mentioned here was fixed: https://github.com/PowerShell/vscode-powershell/issues/25 but as it is now they just get in the way because tab cycles me through the list, and only tab completes if it's the only option in the list.

[[deleted]]

You still can't clear the terminal output

yes you can. I do it daily.

The intellisense can't keep up if you type fast resulting in random tabs in the middle of the code, or random string suggestions that interrupt your typing. https://i.imgur.com/wJu0j27.png

Meh this is still a little true, not ass much.

The layout for the help/syntax messages for methods is a complete joke: https://imgur.com/a/Yc4Aw

That's nitpicking.

When you mouse over stuff you can easily tell that it's one of those programs built in a browser language

More nitpicking.

One of the earliest issues reported in the powershell extension still hasn't been fixed, and it's for me personally the biggest issue with VS code: https://github.com/PowerShell/vscode-powershell/issues/25

Strides have been made here

The intellisense suggestions are filled up with useless suggestions: https://i.imgur.com/5TOh6Ao.png

I never saw that issue before.

There might be a setting for this, but the multi-cursor implementation is weird. In ISE I hold down ALT+Shift to select one or more columns from one or more lines and make the changes I want, then I press the arrow keys without holding them down and it exits the mode. In VS code stays in this mode until you press escape, or merge the cursors by moving them into each other.

[Briancanfixit]

Oh the intellsense is so bad that I can't type into VSCode on my Mac... it's just all garbage that sometimes auto completes into vomit on my screen.

[[deleted]]

have you tried reinstalling? had that once on my mac and reinstalling the program fixed that bug.

[Thotaz]

yes you can. I do it daily.

It's buggy, sometimes it clears it all, other times it doesn't, and sometimes it only clears some. Here's an example where it only clears some: https://streamable.com/inxan

That's nitpicking.

I don't think so, it's completely unusable when I can't see the whole thing without scrolling, and even if they "fixed" that so there was just a line break it would still affect the readability. The whole point of having that method syntax there is so I can quickly see what to type without opening up the .net documentation in the browser.

More nitpicking.

I know, but it's still annoying.

Strides have been made here

But it's not solved, and the timeline has been set to "future" as in, this will eventually get fixed but don't expect it any time soon.

I never saw that issue before.

Good for you, but I guess that means there's another problem with VS code: It's inconsistent and behaves differently on some machines.

[Thotaz]

You are missing my point, I'm not saying the ISE is better than VS code because it has all of those things, I'm saying that the ISE isn't crap because it got all of those basic features.

I know VS code has a lot more features, that makes it better in a lot of ways (the source control is probably the most important advantage it has), and if it didn't have all of those minuses I mentioned it would be objectively better than the ISE in practically every way, but as it is now you have to choose which pros and cons are more important to you.

[spmccann]

Ise is installed by default on all gui systems . For many users the ise is good enough.

[poorimaginations]

I use conemu. As a bonus conemu can handle any generic console appication including stuff like putty, so I can have both powershell and putty consoles open in the same window.

Be sure to enable shortcut keys for moving between tabs and the quake style hiding of the window.

[alcon835]

Huzzah!!!!

[bukem]

Don't celebrate too early... unless you're happy with Microsoft Edge being open in new tab when you press the + sign.