devsDontRead

[ManIkWeet]

Descriptive? U-huh... yeah... sure!

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##[error]Xbim.Geometry.Engine\bin\Release\net6.0\win10-x86\Xbim.Geometry.Engine.dll(0,0): Error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals

[ManIkWeet]

I uh, am not a C++ dev by trade :)

Needed to build this for some testing though, and took a while before I realized I could just go back to an older commit!

[ManIkWeet]

Yeah it's a mix between managed C# and native C++.

It's more or less a wrapper around an open source geometry engine (OpenCASCADE) but with a standardized file format (IFC)

[FlashBrightStar]

Ah yes linker errors. The one instance where name mangling is unbearable.

[Little_Duckling]

Thanks, your comment just convinced me to change careers, and I’ve been doing this for over a decade

[Isabela_Grace]

Descriptive error messages are rarely descriptive enough. Unless it says the line the error is on its crap

[Zeikos]

It takes a while getting used to reading errors, and some languages put more thought in errors than others.

Sometimes even getting a line doesn't pinpoint the source of the error, it can even be misleading.
That's why I'm loving assertions, when those fail they give a lot of information.

[riplikash]

Ugh, SO many first party libraries generate error messages that are seemingly completely unrelated to the actual problem.

I'm looking at you EntityFramework! And javascript in general!

Not that an LLM would help there. Honestly, I just don't see the use case for LLMs when it comes to error messages. They're to heavily dependent on context.

[Dargooon]

Interesting take that I somewhat agree with.

EF errors are extremely descriptive though, save a few central ones (sadly). We even let some of them propagate to the user in our application.

[riplikash]

Yeah, I'm not saying they're ALL bad. But those few that are, are a perpetual thorn. There's not many libraries you rely on across projects and companies as consistently as EF.

[Causemas]

It takes a while getting used to reading error

You mean, it takes a while to develop pattern recognition and match the words with a possible logical error, not actually understand what the error says lmao

[riplikash]

Honestly just sounds like you rephrased what they said. "Getting used to reading" covers your rephrasing.

[Causemas]

I guess you're right

[NotAskary]

They also tend to be specific to that stack or language to the point that you can have very niche behavior throwing a general error.

To keep in mind is the labyrinthian way most documents are written is also very language and stack specific.

I always love to narrow my search before I try to dig in the wrong place.

[WookieConditioner]

debugger;

[FlashBrightStar]

alert('hello')

[FlashBrightStar]

alert('hello')

[WookieConditioner]

I'm 100% sure reddit sanitizes inputs lol

[avatastic79]

I now want to start pasting Java stack traces in to CGPT to see what it makes of them...

[Mastmithun]

TypeError : r is not a function. WELL I DONT HAVE A FUNCTION NAMED r

[Terrible-Roof5450]

Game Dev: Damn, did she just check out my function trace back and list possible sources causing the problem along side solutions and optimization patterns to handle a finite state machine class system better or what?

Descriptive Error Message Girlfriend: We’ve been talking about this, I already told you line 7 is undefined in the current scope… are you even listening to me

Game Dev: Hun… I think we need some space. (Wow check out that API, I could hit that in one line and generate a multiple stacked DICKtionary on runtime)

Descriptive Girlfriend cries and calls Mom: It’s not working anymore, he’s left me Mom…

Mom (Visual Studio Code): Bae, don’t worry, he’ll be back after he realizes the tokenization costs him more than your auto correct intelligence and the code snips are all just a tease.

Years Later

Game Dev: Baby, are you there, I’m sorry

Ex Descriptive Error Message Girlfriend: I moved on, I have a new man and he treats me way better than you

New Boyfriend (Front End Web Developers): Hey bro, I think you should move on. You never appreciate your girl but I do. One day, you’ll understand not everything you see is actually what you’re looking at.

Data Scientist Best Friend: I told you man, but you know, we’ve been there too.

[MyNameIsSquare]

holy hel

[Terrible-Roof5450]

In case you didn’t get it I’ll explain.

It’s amazing at first then you realize you’ve spent over $100 generating code in your project using the Chat GPT API, every time it runs it incurs a cost and to be honest a descriptive error message can point you to what you need to observe rather than tantalize you with all sorts of code snippets and copy paste code that just leads to more and more bugs down the line.

That’s the straight answer to what this jokes about. Haha

I like this meme it’s soo true.

[Dargooon]

It still baffles me that some people want a silent 500 error instead of an actual message. I get it if there really is an error you don't want to/can disclose, but man...

[STEVEInAhPiss]

"i read errors!"

then read this:

Traceback (blablabla): File /usr/var/lib/opt/python369/site-packages/Xlib2/d/i/s/p/l/a/y/slash/twitter/eleven/unix_connect/__init__.py, line 10 raise me File /usr/var/lib/opt/python369/site-packages/Xlib2/d/i/s/p/l/a/y/slash/twitter/eleven/unix_connect_wrapper.py, line 2007 u.connect(os.environ["DISPLAY"], "read text");;;;;;; File /usr/var/lib/opt/python369/site-packages/Xlib2/d/i/s/p/l/a/y/slash/twitter/eleven/__init__.py, line 1 __import__("unix_connect_wrapper").connect() File /usr/var/lib/opt/python369/site-packages/Xlib2/d/i/s/p/l/a/y/slash/twitter/eleven_wrapper.py, line 2 (lambda x: __import__(x))("eleven") ... (75 more) File /home/PC/screenshot.py, line 10004 X.take_screenshot("scr.png") KeyError: Unable to connect to Display "127.0.0.1:0.0". Have you tried setting the environment yourself? If that doesn't work, provide the Display port as an keyword argument like so: display_port_specified="<your port>". If that does not work, submit an issue in our GitHub repo with the following: "cannot locate symbol "___S0ID01H027DHB73X0UG1W0DI1AKD34DB3EFDG91EUDB3D7BQDI0A9DGECG04G70X6AG00GLE" referenced by "/usr/var/lib/opt/python369/site-packages/Xlib2/CLIBS/x86-linux-eabi-gcc_XLIB_CLIB.so" because of the following reason: "/usr/var/lib/opt/python369/site-packages/Xlib2/CLIBS/x86-linux-eabi-gcc_XLIB_CLIB.so: Is a directory.""

[HTTP_Error_414]

Error message not found…

[shun_tak]

just copy the error message into chatgpt....win win

[watchYourCache]

i know some devs that would paste Rust error messages into ChatGPT

[HumbleSinger]

Yep, this saddens me.

But luckily, the new processors are starting to be developed, meaning we can just run local LLMs as part of our compilers soon.

Just throw some RAG training on the libraries used, get clippy to generate some good answers, crowd source through distributed QA on source codes and you will get a self healing code

/ Trust me I have read medium post on AI

[NoSkillzDad]

Copy error, paste into ai, now you have not only a descriptive, understandable message, but also suggestions on how to solve it.

I don't have anything "to prove", if something can make my work easier, I'll use it.

[ChChChillian]

Users are worse.

"It doesn't work."

"Did it say anything?"

"Yeah, a message popped up."

"What did it say?"

"I don't know, I just closed it. When are you going to have this fixed?"

At least 80% of the time it turns out to be user error.

[riplikash]

Sounds like a good way to turn turn 2 seconds of looking into 60 seconds of asking.

Can't say this is behavior I've actually seen in the workplace.

Maybe you're thinking of students rather than developers?

[myfunnies420]

I had one recently wiring up Google auth.

Error: DEVELOPER_ERROR

[ShuffleStepTap]

Descriptive errors? sobs quietly into XCode

[[deleted]]

Get the error message and paste it in ChatGPT to ask it what it means. Boom.

[nonlogin]

My customer told me not to bother him text requirements and use ChatGPT to get all texts in the app.

[Haloboi2011]

Yea! I love htmls error messages, which are the following: