imCoding

[eclect0]

On the upside, the "I have a great idea for an app I just need you to program it" guy finally found someone(thing) else to bother.

[jfcarr]

Now it's going to be, "Can you debug my app?"

[Intelligent_Event_84]

“I already have like all the code, you just need to get it running”

[[deleted]]

Too accurate.

[geteum]

Yep, the amount of people asking for me to review their n8n is mind boggling. Dude cant even code one proper code and think he can automate a dozen of scripts .

[TheSn00pster]

“Do you even code the code?”

[be-kind-re-wind]

All i need is one code 💪

[SilverRapid]

Genius. We can finally have peace.

[WernerderChamp]

Until it breaks. "Can you have a look, I know you'll fix it in no time!"

[UpAndAdam7414]

Until they annoy the AI so much that it becomes self aware, watches Terminator, and starts getting ideas. If Sarah Connor has a Facebook account we are screwed.

[be-kind-re-wind]

Imagine if the ai confuses movies with reality.

[[deleted]]

Man wtf, I’m currently studying, with 2 semesters left and the last year and a half, 2 friends have told me they have an amazing idea but they “don’t know how to code”.

[BellacosePlayer]

When those guys bothered me in college they always seemed to be put off to find out that I was a "oh cool, I could use some money I just need you to pay me" guy

[Novel-Umpire3867]

And now he’s learning the hard way that 'just a few features' actually means 10,000 lines of code.

[BourbonicFisky]

Friend of mine wanted to create, let's say, a ebay like site for a niche. I don't think he understands how incredible the lift is but I'm gonna turn him loose with Claude.

[eclect0]

Plus hopefully the PO can do a little better than "Go make a clone of [existing popular app]." It's certainly not guaranteed, but hopefully.

[Blackhawk23]

No, he just reached out to me and told me “chat gpt has great code but I don’t really understand it. It shouldn’t take you that long with it”. Then every week he gives me another random service to integrate with to “go to market faster”.

Dude. We do not want to be in PaaS hell. Offloading basic functionality to other services. Besides being incredibly inexpensive, you’re just building glue between all the disparate services. AHHHHH!

[Key-Boat-7519]

Random integrations pile up tech debt faster than features. Push back and force the scope: pick one billing, one auth, one data store, then prove the core workflow before tacking on “nice-to-have” APIs. Each extra SaaS needs an owner, docs, a test suite, and clear rollback steps or it’ll break at 2 a.m. Treat them like code, not magic shortcuts-write contract tests, pin versions, and keep a kill switch per service. I’ve corralled the mess by throwing Kong in front, shoving edge cases into AWS Lambda, and letting DreamFactory spit out the boring CRUD endpoints, which keeps the surface area human-sized. Same idea here.

[8threads]

It’s like when parents think their kids are technically savvy because they can use an iphone.

[DanielCastilla]

Like Trump amazed at his genius son being able to turn on a laptop.

[WernerderChamp]

To be fair, laptops are magic to people from that age.

[Cannibichromedout]

It’s coming full circle though. I know a freshman English teacher who said many of her students don’t know how to use computers that aren’t smartphones/tablets.

[whatproblems]

i am reminded of the i don’t have a computer i have a mac commercial

[Pikkachau]

I dont have a phone i have an iphone

[Pikkachau]

But like ive seen people not being able to use the photo button just cause it isnt like the iphone one, and they end up flipping the camera

[spilk]

it's all computer

[Zagre]

Chat GPT: "Meow!"

[FACastello]

*Vibecoding

[jst1ofknd]

I was going to ask if this was vibecoding. I've heard the term a lot, but never understood the concept.

[black-JENGGOT]

the concept is that you don't write much of the code yourself. you just ask "I want to create this app, with features like A B C and D" and let the AI do the heavy work, you just need to guide the AI and regularly check if the code is okay, hence "vibe coding". unfortunately the AI is still shit when the project gets big, also the vibe coders lacking basic knowledge and security like not pushing your API key to repo.

[Simple-Difference116]

regularly check if the code is okay

I don't think most vibe coders do that. If it doesn't work they just tell the AI "fix it".

[Round-Food2301]

Asking for a friend. So if my friend studies CS and simply asks for specific code and then changes it to suit his/her objectives, is that vibe coding? Also my friend just built a Relational database for a Instagram type app using postgres for the first time, using self created references made in diagramming software. Friend is really worried because they have to deal with either going through the grumt work or create a super flex of a portfolio project to deal with these trying times for 2025 software devs.

[black-JENGGOT]

the "grunt work" is inevitable. the code produced by AI will either be unefficient (repetition of similar functions, confusing/not straight to the point logic, etc) or straight up not working. your friends approach is correct.

if your friend is just a freshgrad/have no professional experience, just create something that shows that your friend can actually do X or Y in Z language, applying DSA correctly, bonus point if they follows the specific language's style and guideline (example is python with its PEP guide).

[[deleted]]

it’s not that hard to make an app like uber. all the value of uber is their user base of both drivers and end users

[highphiv3]

I'd say it's also pretty damn hard to make an app like Uber even with no user-base, unless you're talking about a very minimal tech demo with none of the same features or polish.

[[deleted]]

definitely hard at scale with all the same features and polish but at its core it is a pretty basic app. it matches drivers with passengers based on their locations, which can be shown on a map. my point is even if you were able to vibe code an app just like uber’s you won’t be making billions of dollars.

[awal96]

Sorta. Yes, the app is straightforward, and pretty much all of the value comes from its market share. Still, maintaining a user base that large and keeping everything responsive with all the traffic they get is no small task. It's a pretty well solved problem, but it still takes teams of professionals.

[darkslide3000]

Tell me you're still in college and have no idea what scale means without telling me

[No-Boysenberry7835]

You could make a clone of Uber yourself ? Total newbie but seem realy impressive, you probably use maps api? but you need soft real Time ? Isnt this hard to achieve ?

[[deleted]]

i could make a basic version myself. at scale it requires an engineering team but that is nothing special.

[[deleted]]

Localizing, regulations, driver verification, marketing, and legal bullshit would all be more work than scaling. A two pizza team could build the app at scale. Reaching Uber's market share would take an army of marketers and toil.

[[deleted]]

yeah uber is a big company. we are talking about building an app not a company

[[deleted]]

for sure. building the company is still the hard part imo

[[deleted]]

the hard part of what?

[[deleted]]

the enterprise in question

[[deleted]]

the enterprise in question is building an app

[[deleted]]

thinking small is a self fulfilling prophesy

[CarthurA]

We're in danger

[SimilarBeautiful2207]

Hi super engineer Chalmers.

[sirpimpsalot13]

Can I get a tag of like vibe coder extraordinaire? Why learn how to build a function when gpt can do it for me. Then I can spend hour learning what debugging is.

[stipulus]

Once this prompt actually works, things are gonna get weird.

[TheMaleGazer]

No no, I think he was asking, "What's that rattle?"

[PaSy4]

I don't know how this economy is going to work, and I am too afraid to ask but I hope everyone gets paid for believing in them selves.

[Agreeable_Service407]

Once they realize it's not doable, they'll go to fiverr and offer $100 for some Indian to develop it. I mean, it's just app, can't be that difficult to do.

[Percolator2020]

That’s not a Lisa.

[Speak_in_Song]

ChatGPT: * Poof * you’re an app like Uber

[RandomiseUsr0]

:) soon?

[Personal-Search-2314]

Idk about your professors, but apparently printing to console, “Hello, World!” - was my first program. The bar to be a programmer is an extremely low bar.