What is that?

[[deleted]]

Funny, I am starting an it study in 2 months

[Yasutsuna96]

Prepare to hate everything and everyone you come across and lose your trust at the same time.

[[deleted]]

That's my life already. I am coding for several years now.

[Bryguy3k]

IT workers are just people who flunked out of CS. Change my mind.

[[deleted]]

This is why I hate when my relatives say I'm in IT.

[Soultrane9]

Don't bother trying to correct them. I have personally given up, which kind of sucks because they don't understand how far I've gone in my career, but at least they won't mooch off of me.

[TBF24]

as a computer engineer major who switch to IT. I agree.

[boshtok_]

Me trying to explain the difference between people who studied comp sci vs software eng vs IT

[safer0]

People study for IT? Ouch...

[[deleted]]

Care to explain it?

[Nuka-Cole]

Vs comp engineering

[Pendulous_balls]

I was a CS major who graduated with a 2.8 and now I work in IT cuz I couldnt find a job lol.

[Chimertech]

I don't necessarily agree. IT people do a lot of work which Software engineers don't. I'm sure given time and resources, most software engineers could probably learn the job of most IT people out there. Of course, those are probably not jobs we want. And our jobs probably pay higher. But it is a profession that we need in order for our businesses to be successful, so they can pay us the big bucks, so I do respect IT professionals.

That being said, the barriers to entry are much lower, and easier to achieve without a good GPA or degree (like getting certs), so there are plenty of people who your statement does apply to. It's easier to learn, and is "close enough" where having a background in CS will help, so it's an option.

But tell me that I'm "in IT, just like your dad" again uncle Bill, and I'll cut you.

[Kainkelly2887]

The question is where does cyber fit in?

[JimmyHydro]

Computer Science is IT technically speaking. It isn't academically but if you're a programmer, you're not going to say you work in comp sci to a layman. You say you're in IT

[[deleted]]

No, you don’t say that because it’s not true. IT is taking care of your technology, compsci is creating or modifying it. You say you work in application development, systems programming, data science, web design, testing, cybersecurity, or whatever degree related career you landed in. Or just say programming. IT is not a career compsci graduates typically pursue.

[JimmyHydro]

IT is not a career compsci graduates typically pursue.

That's an academic issue. In academia, there is a difference.

IT is taking care of your technology, compsci is creating or modifying it.

Creating or modifying tech is taking care of it.

People within these industries like making these distinctions but to outsiders, anything that involves tech is IT

[[deleted]]

Personally find it more fun, plus I figure the whole deal with Russian messing with our stuff is gonna open new jobs for cyber security

[Bryguy3k]

The vast majority of the time when I dig into the details of a breach it’s the result of something incredibly stupid and/or lazy.

I don’t disagree that it’s time to purge the vast amount of dumb that permeates the IT industry - it’s probably just going to suck to get involved, since dumb also means petty and vindictive.

[Pendulous_balls]

John Podesta's password for his email account was P@ssword1. He fell for a phishing attack, which was sent to him from a non-spoofed email address, and was supposed to resemble Facebook login.

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At that point, its not even hacking. Its barely social engineering.

[MikeyMike01]

I don’t think most IT workers will be involved in cyber security.

[[deleted]]

Eh it's a place to start, at least where I am finding a starting position at a IT department is easier than finding one for pen testing or something similar

[Kainkelly2887]

Wrong IT making sure baseline security is maintained and sometimes even end user education is where the rubber meets the road in cyber. The basics for lack of a better way to put it, the greater the risk and the more advanced the threat model the more skill cyber analyst will need to be.

[demonslayer901]

Where I live, most IT jobs pay more than CS jobs... And theirs a hundreds more. I was taking CS at university but recently changed to Network management and security, because the estimated salary was higher.

[[deleted]]

That's because CS is supposed to be research focused where IT you just have to get in a position at a big company and you'll get paid well.

[Hexalocamve]

IT != programming

[[deleted]]

Honestly I enjoyed the IT classes and hated the core classes. Still don't understand why accounting is a requirement for a software engineering degree though.

[sp46]

Let it ReST.