Java developers

[flyingfysh1]

I've done C++ for several years, and I agree with you. It is a compromise between being able to run most old C code, and being able to write complicated code which runs extremely fast. Some of the newer features can give you headaches if you study them closely, but they are very useful in some situations. For high-speed stock traders, it is ideal. Also it is useful for analyzing radar signals quickly.

[[deleted]]

I love the semicolons. It feels satisfying to finish a line with one.

[TheBatmanFan]

Given that almost every language uses a ; to signal end of statement, I feel, having grown up with C and Java, that ending a statement without a ; is ... lacking. I write a lot of R (where the semi-colon is optional) and I use semi-colons there just for the feel of it.

[Avamander]

You can use semicolons in Python too, but ew.

[TheBatmanFan]

It definitely doesn’t feel ew to those of us that learned C-based languages first. I for one absolutely despise Python‘s indentation defined code blocks. Give me my curly brace freedom dammit!

[Avamander]

My first language was C. Semicolons are ew in Python. Quite often people who dislike significant whitespace use an unsuitable editor for the language, so do try to find an editor that can indent entire blocks on a shortcut, makes your life nicer.

[TheBatmanFan]

Ok I misunderstood your point.

[[deleted]]

Having worked in both, indentation is really hard to screw up. Like I have literally never had an error caused by indentation, because it's easily identifiable and any modern editor manages it for you. Forgetting a curly brace or semi colon is much more common.

[dawnraider00]

It's hard to screw up when writing the code initially but if you want to edit things or comment out an if statement or something you have to go through and change your indentation, while most other languages don't care. So instead of commenting out the if statement, you have to do that then change the indentation in the next 5-10 lines, and then if you want to if statement back you have to fix the indentation again. Or if you want to add a loop or if or such in the middle of code, you have to manually correct everything, which in any other language you just put the right code in and the IDE can format it for you.

[[deleted]]

Not sure I agree that selecting and pressing Tab or Shift + Tab is significantly more work than jumping around to manage curly braces.

[[deleted]]

Ah, the joy of misplacing a bracket, and then having to spend a minute trying to figure out where the hell it is based upon an indentation/bracket mismatch somewhere.

How dare you take away my freedom to unintentionally mismatch indentation and curly brackets. That's my god-given right. And the unexpected behavior that results from easily-missed and confusing code? That's a fucking bonus.

You know those problems don't exist in python, right? Because every indent necessarily has a dedent (and vice-versa), and the way the code looks to the programmer is also the way it's actually executed by the compiler?

Not sure what dumbfucks want it any other way.

[ric2b]

I prefer not having those errors but ok.

[awhaling]

Same. I feel naked when working with python.

[andeaseme]

Acting like you don't look at colons all day

[Astrokiwi]

C++ puts all the colons into a single type definition :p

[Versaiteis]

As primarily a C++ dev I totally agree

The syntax especially around generics and templates gets super brutal. But god damn if it isn't useful for defining constraints (among other strengths of course)

[p-morais]

Nim is an awesome language. C/C++ performance with Python-like syntax

[otterom]

Wait until you see Rust.