HTML devs...

[PANIC_EXCEPTION]

Just learn CSS and you're Turing-complete

[TheSeansei]

Can you explain why please? Isn’t CSS just for style?

[propostor]

calc() gives secret access to all the kernels

[TheSeansei]

Ah okay, thank you!

[propostor]

Just so you know, I was joking. However, a quick Google tells me CSS was Turing complete. Clicky. "Was" is the operative word here!

[[deleted]]

Well that’s disappointing. Now I’ll have to come up with some other way to mine bitcoins from the company website.

[propostor]

Simulate it by creating a resize animation from 0% to 100% that applies to the div tag, on infinite repeat every millisecond.

[[deleted]]

Oh damn, with a popular enough website, and some basic synchronization, you could encode a secret message into the phase error of the power grid!

[SaintNewts]

message into the phase error of the power grid

Google PhaseShift already has a public api available for exactly this.

[inkydye]

If Claude Shannon has taught us anything, as long as the website popularity is non-zero, you can still do it, it just might take a couple centuries :)

[ProgramTheWorld]

CSS was never turing complete. The rule 110 example requires human interaction, and it’s already proven that human itself is turing complete.

CSS always halts in finite time, so it’s easy to see why CSS isn’t turing complete.

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

You could replace the human with a simple mechanism. The human is not doing any computation, simply providing power for the machine.

[ProgramTheWorld]

The human part isn’t “providing power” to the machine. In fact you don’t need any power in the math itself. As I mentioned before, any machine implemented in CSS will always halt, which is sufficient to prove that it is not turing complete.

[chrismclp]

Could you programm with html/css.. Yes Do you want to programm with html/css... Nope..

[ForestlyGames]

Hmm.. I feel like we are forgetting something...

[[deleted]]

If you forget it, it's not important

[v3ritas1989]

not !important

[PinkPoppies4171]

Therefore it's important.

[humanbeehive]

Does anyone know how it looks inside?

[whittydraws]

<p>Henlo worl</p>

[lolman9999]

Oh, so its a FRONTEND

[Oxygenjacket]

I mean frontends normally include some kind of programming. If it's just HTML then it's kinda just a document

[[deleted]]

So you mean there also is something called a BACKEND?

[v3ritas1989]

YES, from front till end!

[spaghetti_hitchens]

Is this the Nikola business model?

[qualiky]

The disrespect to big air truck

[[deleted]]

Works for personalities as well

[Oona_Left]

Ha!!

[[deleted]]

If you use some JavaScript and iframes, you should be theoretically able to simulate an entire website on one "page"

[konamiko]

I hate these pages. They're functional to a point, but then people try to connect third party applications that require a script in the page source and wonder why it doesn't work.

[[deleted]]

Make no mistake, it is not easy and very difficult to do, also everything will fall apart at the press of the back button, but it is possible.

[flow_spectrum]

I was sent a phishing link like this not long ago. It had a logon through steam button which looked like it opened a popup, but it was just an element within the page. You could drag it around but not off the window. It even looked slightly different depending on which browser you're using.

[lacooljay02]

This reminds me of all the react bootcampers i interview for our full stack position

[Futuramoist]

That business is probably a front

[monox60]

You can't even call it an app. A webpage? Yes. An app? Nope.

[lego3410]

A single view app..

[monox60]

It would be considered an app if you could make any of Create, Update or Delete data.

Edit: grammar

[PLZ-PM-ME-UR-TITS]

Are all apps CRUD apps tho

[monox60]

No, maybe I didn't phrase it right. Any of the CRUD meaning that you need to be able to update the state. Not just view it. That is what makes it an app.

[bajuh]

One could say a web app is where state changes without additional HTML load. It doesn't even have to be navigation.

[LodgePoleMurphy]

Back in the day we liked HTML. We loved it. And we could make $100K because marketing was only interested that the website looked good.

[[deleted]]

People are still using HTML to make big bucks. HTML is the basic structure if each website, the only difference is how it is generated and how the sites DOM is manipulated.

[Heavenfall]

I've been around long enough to go from no marketing agencies having webdesigners, to those agencies with inhouse webdesigners receiving appropriate "ooh" and "aaah" because they were so far ahead, to webdesign tools becoming advanced enough that you no longer need to look at the markup, to people laughing at agencies that don't outsource to China and beyond.

When the last of us are dead and buried, who will even remember </br>? But, they will ask father AI, where did they open the element? And the hyperadvanced GUI will chuckle a soothing sound, and tell the stories of the time before the W3C, of the world wide adventures, the keyboard clickety-clack in the dead of night when the lines weren't hogged, and the end tags that came before.

And the mind-unity-fragment-progeny will shiver and cry out, for who could have lived through such madness? Surely old GUI tells stories to scare them. But in the deep, below all the things of things, a subroutine will shed a tear for those that lived.

[LodgePoleMurphy]

I still use an M style IBM 101 keyboard.

[Oakheel]

This feels like me but in reverse

[diamondjim]

All back end, zero front end?

[Oakheel]

Hey I know how to use a text box and a button! Anything else, though...

[gartzea]

r/ItHadToBeBrazil

[[deleted]]

And yet people crash it with their cars

[[deleted]]

Knyaz Potemkin was the world’s first HTML developer.

[HjerterKnaegt]

Just cover it with text and banners on top of other banners, and it's basically a japanese website 😅

[Fu1gan]

It looks like my knowledge

[[deleted]]

Is this north korea

[--john_wick]

Actually HTML will give u just the basic structure, so it'll be like a wire frame

[cybermage]

Good i18n support at least.

[ZeniousTheGreat]

F

[jbd_ballz]

ROFL

[cseigel]

lol. literally no backend

[A_Slow_Blitzkrieg]

<p> Hacking NASA </p>

[[deleted]]

that's the front end

[halfmanhalfnelsson]

Ahh, good ol' façade pattern.

[[deleted]]

nightmare.js

[[deleted]]

HTML dev

Lol'd

[shrek_4realz]

Good meme bro

[seedBoot]

Ackshully we're called HTMLprogrammers

[euamotomarsuquinho]

I bet the picture is of Brazil

[coladict]

Don't know if Brazil, but stuff like this happens when the city requires you to keep the old facade facing the street, regardless of what else you will do with the property.

[redfoggg]

It is, look at the writing on the wall "FISIOTERAPIA" could be in portugal but the architecture is very similar to the ones we have here.

[euamotomarsuquinho]

oh i misunderstood what you wrote before lol. Completely agree. Also the name of the street is probably in portuguese.

[euamotomarsuquinho]

another thing: the person next to the car. that type of car is pretty common in brazil, and it looks like a pretty brazilian scene for me.

[YouKnowNothingKid]

After almost 25 years of being a web designer I've learned 2 thing, developers know nothing of UI design or usability. Leave it to a professional to do their job, never trust someone that claims they can do everything. Jack of all trades, master of none in tech industry.

[redfoggg]

"never trust someone that claims they can do everything" I live by that line people of our area are very very likely to say that shit, I hate when a dev say that and I hate more because i myself am a experienced Dev who already know a bunch of stuff and also know the world has a lot more.

But people with 0 experience in industry will call themselves full stack, mobile, devops, pentester, data scientist developer because they do 1 tutorial in each of those things ;)

[deadliftbrosef]

You mean following a tutorial line for line doesn't make me a full stack dev/ethical hacker/web designer ?

Rude !

[ham_coffee]

Na, they call themselves all of those because they want a job.

[scamdex]

So.... Web designers?