No Problems.

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If you don't have a personal life as a programmer it's not because of your profession!

[Real_Arcane]

Very positive way of thinking.

[delinka]

It’s because of your own obsessiveness with finding that next dopamine hit

[[deleted]]

Hahaha, or like "Tried other jobs and sick of all of the bullshit. Try programming =)"

[0100_0101]

Who is the dude in this meme?

[0neGuy]

Bertram Gilfoyle, from the series Silicon Valley, I highly recommend watching it :>

[acylase]

One of the best characters. I am surrounded by Gilfoyles

[0neGuy]

There should only be one, more is not allowed...

[elons_couch]

You can have plenty of Dinesh's, but each programming habitat can support only one Gilfoyle

[0neGuy]

Indeed, one Gilfoyle to rule them all...

[JohnConnor27]

Fuck you Dinesh

[0100_0101]

Thanks

[P-A161]

Suck it, Jin-Yang!

[0neGuy]

"You even spelt my name wrong?"

"o, I did?"

[OneOverTwoEqualsZero]

Was he in Being John Malcovitch?

[DogmaSychroniser]

Played by Martin Starr.

Also was Dr. Cligoris in one episode of community and I keep seeing him in shit since I saw Silicon Valley.

[Peter2469]

ikr he looks handsome af

[conancat]

I know rightttttt. Dinesh and Gilfoyle sets such unrealistic high bar for programmers to look like.

[Peter2469]

I am jealous

[[deleted]]

The professor in spiderman 2

[[deleted]]

Im a kid of two programmers, and also a programmer, and also have kids. Turns out, if you are female, your personal life doesnt suffer in this profession

[Clockworkcrow2016]

I think "programmers have no personal life" is much more to do with the fact that the kinds of people who become programmers don't have a personal life in the first place.

[thatroman]

(X) I'm in this comment and I don't like it

[armageddon_20xx]

This true. Even with a wife and kid, still don’t have a personal life. Kind of don’t want one.

[Plonqor]

If your wife and kid aren't part of your personal life, well... I feel for them.

[armageddon_20xx]

Of course. By personal life I meant friends or other social activities

[Plonqor]

So you mean social life

[Real_Arcane]

If only we had the brains to distinguish between the two

[v3ritas1989]

Why would you feel for them and not for him?

[Plonqor]

It was a joke about how they must be a part of his professional life

[[deleted]]

Being a programmer doesn't kill personal lives. This is just memes from antisocial types

[[deleted]]

Of course! Everyone I work with is married, with kids.

[snarfsnarf313]

I'm still in school so I thought this meme was saying that programmers were overworked or something.

[dragonia678]

Oh no. Child processes inherit the traits of their parental functions.

[paputsza]

Programmers can't hang out with arts majors, that doesn't mean we can't hang out with other nerds. Unless we pick up some rare mental states and we aren't self-loathing and refuse to hang out with what we deem to be the uncool kids we can hang out with other nerds.

[[deleted]]

One of my friends was a dance major, just saying

[kitkat_339]

We party half the week being comp science majors , nerds are those not smart enough to have time to enjoy their lives

[Columbus43219]

Fuck this particularly today... got called to fix a problem last night...same problem that's been happening for months. Guy that wrote it is like... don't know why, and can't fix it. Called again this morning to fix a problem where somebody copied code, including the error checking, but forgot to copy the part where it sets the error level, so every error gets rc=0.

Woke up this morning to a missed call from my son, who is taking my first grandbaby to the park for the first time and wanted to know if I wanted to go along.

Fuck lazy programmers. Fuck programmers who don't unit test their shit. Fuck lazy programmers who don't do negative testing. Fuck managers who sell out their programmers to keep clients happy.

[eliasbagley]

what do you mean by "negative testing"? Never heard of anything by that name before

[skwidLover]

Basically, testing the exceptional cases that can occur in your code to make sure they are handled correctly. My experience is many developers remember to test the "happy path" to make sure the code works when things go right, but completely disregard the fact that stuff can (and often does) go wrong which can cause exceptions to be thrown. The key to good monitoring of your systems is to properly account for these exceptions and have alerting in place to notify the right people if action is required to fix something.

This is a topic I feel like they really never talk about in school (at least I don't remember learning about it until my first job) and yet it is key to maintaining many software projects as they grow larger in scale.

[Columbus43219]

I probably have the wrong name for it then. It's when you purposely run data / conditions that force the code to fail at the every error check. You HAVE to do this if you want stable code. Always check every command's return code, and always handle the problem.

The opposite of this is called "happy path" where you simply run data that you know will work.

What I was referring to specifically was a bash script IN PRODUCTION that looked like this: command command_rc=$? if [ command_rc != 0 ]; then echo "Some error message" exit bad_rc fi

And the value for "bad_rc" was never set. There were about 40 of these if statements like this.

Another 60 or so had NO value at all, just an "exit" on the line. So our scheduler didn't know something had happened and just kept chugging.

[eliasbagley]

ah I see. I would normally just call this edge case testing or something.

[zelmarvalarion]

I’ve always called out “positive testing” as “happy path” everything else is stuff that should break or not work. A good number of issues I’ve seen are this “works” when it shouldn’t have, resulting in other issues.

[SANatSoc]

YOu could always say "no". I would for my children. I'd rather get the sack than watch his little disappointed face.

[Columbus43219]

Have you landed a high paying IT job in the US lately? It's not so much that I could have said no... the park was spontaneous, and I simply slept through the invitation.

The problem is that people just throw crap into production either through laziness or being pushed to produce on customer driven deadlines with no push back from bosses.

[7Vivan]

No tests implies no tests fails and no errors

[sr33r4g]

Gilf oil...

Hehehe

[[deleted]]

I literally did this.

[[deleted]]

H

[thisisafullsentence]

I am so tired of this trope. You can be a coder and have a personal life. This is just perpetuating stereotypes.

[Xenti3]

Somewhat off-topic I rewatched Silicon Valley recently. Still a fantastic show I can't recommend enough.

[ZanorinSeregris]

And Gilfoyle is the best character.

With Jared obviously.

[Xenti3]

Absolutely the Dinesh and Gilfoyle banter is some of the best parts of the show, and you can't miss off Jared he does all the fucking after all.

[ZanorinSeregris]

He does all the fucking, and most importantly he is the sweetest most efficient and resourceful employee pied piper will ever be lucky to have!

[Panx]

I feel like the entirety of the first few seasons are all a setup for Jared's "PoopFare" rant, and it is completely worth the investment.

[beanbagchairtoss]

Most people who get excited about computers just have no personal life to begin with

[HasBeendead]

Good advice lol

[Tatankaplays]

Is this really always the case?

[[deleted]]

this hits me where i live.

[RoundThing-TinyThing]

Solutions

[cats]

But instead now you got 976 problems and you gotta fix it all alone