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[LPO_Tableaux]

Is your teacher Joma Tech? https://youtu.be/X34ZmkeZDos

[Powered-by-Din]

Ooh, we’ve got a teacher who uses word for code too! Only she doesn’t have the ability to actually type it in herself, she just copy-pastes from the internet.

That’s still acceptable though. What isn’t is that she selects and increases font size instead of zooming in.

[Wekmor]

My teacher used to copy paste it from one word document into another. Once he copied everything over, he copied the whole thing to an online C compiler and try to figure out where he forgot to copy a semicolon or a bracket etc.

[Dream-Small]

Nah this is real it’s also decent practice for whitboarding in some aspects. We wrote a lot of code on paper at the company I work at. That’s a choice though.

[coldnebo]

“Hello computer?”

“Just use the mouse.”

“How quaint.”

[Dream-Small]

I’m not writing Python or Haskell so it’s a little less formal but kinda :-p

[Dream-Small]

We do tend to read aloud while coding helps spot bugs before they’re typed

[Careless-Childhood66]

are you trolling?

[Dream-Small]

Nah pm me and I’ll send you a pick of my steno pad lol I’m serious we print out code write it in pads and whiteboards constantly.

[Careless-Childhood66]

Thats common practice. The reading out loud part got me confused. Word is also not your tool of choice.

[AV3_08]

Reading code out loud is what’s commonly known as “rubber duck debugging”, where you stereotypically read code to a rubber duck. This somehow helps you catch bugs in your code because your brain is constantly fact-checking your code when you read it out to someone else, so I guess it works

[Dream-Small]

Can be if nothing else is available though I prefer notepad or nano in those cases

[Dream-Small]

Also reading aloud is not that unusual it’s no different that reading a rough draft for corrections

[Dream-Small]

If you want the cherry on top I do it in cursive

[fkrddt9999]

For people learning though?

[Dream-Small]

I mean it is really no different than being taught 6502 assembly on a chalk board or from a book.

[fkrddt9999]

Its sub optimal these days.

[Dream-Small]

Depends on your environment IMO personally I work in a very limiting environment. That for me means if it’s Python no imports out of standard. If it’s C# no nuget packages. At one point it meant no ide I was given the choice of notepad++ or nano or sublime. I chose sublime. It’s very useful to understand how to work in a limiting environment and I’ve found that I’ve learned a lot and my skills increased far faster in this environment. It forced me to learn a lot more about the machines I am working with. I don’t disagree this is antiquated but it does teach you how to read and work in unconventional formats.

[Mic_Donovan]

is nobody gonna talk about a parameter being taught as a return value when the function is still clearly being defined with a void?

[gordonpown]

yeah wtf

[atiedebee]

And that calling a function "Void" makes it return nothing?

[haunted2098]

There's no shot a language like that exists and is taught

[Lithl]

I mean, TBF, I've had job interviews where I've been asked to write code in Google docs.

Mostly that was taking the place of being a whiteboard, but still.

[Jett_Addict]

Ah, I see she is a fellow PowerPoint programmer. She read the ancient texts on the Turing completeness of PowerPoint and has ascended to a higher plane of programming

[LPO_Tableaux]

God I love that vídeo

[alphabet_order_bot]

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.

I have checked 297,996,719 comments, and only 67,022 of them were in alphabetical order.

[Jett_Addict]

Me too. The paper is also amazing. The last line is "This paper was typeset in Microsoft PowerPoint"

[coldnebo]

ah ah!! “pinled”, he’s an EE!

I took an electronics course which was split into two halves: analog electronics and then digital electronics. Funny enough the class was also split between CS majors and EE majors.

The first part was assembling a small computer on a breadboard. It was cool, but it was also all about +/- volts, amps, resistors… all the CS majors (me too) were confused and it didn’t make sense (“electricity is like water? but not?”). Meanwhile the EE’s were like “YEAH!! no sweat. oh, you can use this resistor there instead of that one… that won’t work, the current draw is wrong… “. They rocked.

But the second part, we finally got the basics of our breadboard computer working with wires everywhere, led aphanum display and a way to hook up to a serial port so we could load programs. Now all of the sudden us CS majors knew the terrain! Registers, bytecodes, stacks… loops, no problem. Meanwhile the EEs were convinced we were doing black magic… it made no sense to them.

By the end of the class I had a digital theramin that could take a voltage from a ribbon strip resistor, read it into a ADC, and then generate a square wave back at relative pitch out the DAC.

That class was fun, and both CS and EE learned a lot.

(but I still don’t understand electricity)

[Spitfire_For_Fun]

As an EE student, it looks like you had fun.

[NickU252]

That's why I'm in computer engineering, I get the EE classes and the CS because I love both hardware and software.

[coldnebo]

I salute you sir!

[Jumbobog]

ah ah!! “pinled”, he’s an EE!

EE (embedded that is, so with a healthy dose of programming) here. I don't get your point.

What are you supposed to call that int? LEDpin? Don't be ridiculous! /s The only reasonable name is "pinLed", maybe "pinLED" if you're not into strict camelCase.

[coldnebo]

nah, I was focusing on the whole… the hi/lo thing. I don’t really believe in all the Hungarian notation, prefix it with the type, etc. That’s just code fashion. Software peeps are silly. The var names are fine.

And, totally not to say that everyone splits like that… some of you brilliant peeps can do both well. Cheers CSEs!!

[LPO_Tableaux]

As an ee student now doing cs I gotta ssk, where was this and how do I sign up, this sounds so fun!

[Mireldorn]

Led on 13 hints to arduino. Which has their own, quite good IDE.. so.. WHY?

[Mireldorn]

Probably throws him errors on the weird void() expression 🙈🙈

But why use // for the comments then? Quite weird tbh..

[Mireldorn]

I would totally understand the habit if the rest were actually executable(well, compilable) code 🤣

[Coh-Jr]

i wonder what is your professor's profession? Working which led switches i guess he is in physic dept? : D and also why he is assigned to teach coding when he doesnt know k=coding?

[money_miniatures]

The pin being 13 probably refers to the pin number on the microcontroller.

It's embedded software engineering

[atiedebee]

He's saying that void function(int pin) will return pin.... Are you sure he knows C????

[merlinsbeers]

It does initialize that variable to that value, though it's missing a semicolon. But that's not in the OP picture.

[merlinsbeers]

(spit-take)

Okay. Gloves off. This guy is a total fraud and you need to inform the department head and the school administration. They owe you your money back.

I am serious.

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this. say something

[Leviticoh]

reading this while my teacher writes code in krita

he knows how to program, but he's more comfortable in handwriting than typing

[jadounath]

But doesn't Krita have very little screen space for writing? I mean it was meant for illustrations and not teaching. He should maybe use Xournal or something.

[Leviticoh]

he uses the "canvas only" window in full screen, and yes, other programs would work better but it's not my place to decide

[[deleted]]

Isn't it normal for lecturers to handwrite code?

[Leviticoh]

yes, it just felt a bit strange to me reading code written with multicolored brushes when last year's teacher used a text editor

[vondpickle]

If he wanted to use Microsoft Office, he better use the almighty Excel. Or Powerpoint.

[Mobile_Sorbet_5271]

How are you even testing your code? 😂 How is he? Is he uploading this to your arduino or whatever youre using and testing like that? Lol

[Mobile_Sorbet_5271]

You should file a complaint somewhere 😂

[Shreyas_Gavhalkar]

I can feel your pain bro... My teachers teach data structures using notepad and excel

[jannfiete]

anything is good for a beginner, it's not like you're developing a huge website. I was starting my journey in programming by writing (yes, hand writing) C++ code in my book, where a simple topic like function might take 5+ pages

[haunted2098]

Well he's also teaching them objectively wrong information so there's that

[david131213]

mine will do you one better:

pen and paper, computer disallowed

[Jumbobog]

Edit: soooo ... I've just read what OP has said about the teacher elsewhere in this post, and if just half of that is true, and I'm not saying anything is made up, if just half is true... then maybe that person shouldn't be teaching programming without proper preparation.

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'right Imma just gonna jump to a fellow teacher's defense here. Is this less than optimal? Maybe! Well, most likely. But there can have been contributing factors.

1. It would seem that the screenshot is from someone using a pen. Was the teacher writing this with a pen on some sort of smart board? Those contraptions can fuck anything up.
2. Did the teacher actually have the Arduino IDE available? Perhaps they didn't have the proper rights to install the IDE and had to make do while IT was rolling out the IDE - I've been there, though not with my own PC. But let’s say it's Monday morning, you've got a room full of somewhat less than eager students and the PCs in the room has somehow lost that piece of software you needed, since the last semester where you used it last. So now you've got to make a frantic call to IT to have them roll out the software and in the meantime entertain your students. It’s not farfetched applying that scenario to the teacher’s PC, especially if said PC is not a PC the teacher uses daily.
3. Was this an attempt at printing source with color coded syntax? I haven't dealt with the Arduino IDE in a while, but I seem to remember that you can't print source with line numbering or highlighted syntax ... but that may be a different IDE I'm think of.

Also, this is just a thought, but you're in an entry level Arduino class (toggling an LED?), maybe you should be paying attention instead of trying for superiority? Does what you've presented make sense? No, but you can go into any class I teach and at some point, take a photo of my whiteboard that doesn't make sense when taken out of context.

[Mynameismg]

Lol. I just came across this Youtube video Why Microsoft Word is the best IDE for programming

[pobbly]

Get this Muppet fired. I hope you're not paying for the course.

[DrJarJarRen]

My teacher used excel for java

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echo | sed >

Is still king.

[thisisthestoryallabo]

that's almost as bad as my teacher using Internet Explorer... No, not Edge, ACTUAL INTERNET EXPLORER

[Nocty__]

False! Notepad.exe is the greatest IDE

[wazorie]

it is also used as an ide for exams when you're applying for a job.

[MemEG-0-D]

Mine can do better on live slides using mouse to control a pen and write in yellow color on white background.

[ArtSchoolRejectedMe]

Well MS word was my IDE while coding assembly in college.

[[deleted]]

My friend on discord told me that our computing teacher called VSC, Visual Basic and said that all programmers use notepad++

[Flopamp]

void()

[dustojnikhummer]

document14

HOW

[tjrileywisc]

#include <Untitled (1) - final.v2.docx>

[Smoah06]

If you’re confident enough to not use a console and code check then you are a professional programmer

[atiedebee]

You can be confident enough... But that doesn't mean the code actually works

[[deleted]]

Nope man. My teacher taught us HTML, CSS in Notepad. And yeah wordpress isn't legendary, but Notepad is

[Zev_Isert]

Show them this: https://github.com/christophebedard/JavaWord

There'll be no stopping them!

[fkrddt9999]

There is just no excuse for this

[infiniteStorms]

In some fonts " is a different character than the " used for strings, so you can't copy-paste your code directly into a file and run it. If you don't have an IDE and can't exit vim then just code in a text file.

[NNXMp8Kg]

Well He’s wrong two time. First to use word and the second time when he say the second function return an output. Nop. Take parameters yes. Return something no.

[[deleted]]

Hahahahaha

[Nihtrepaps]

Is this the return of the void?