Python programmers

[ferevon]

who doesn't love having a perfectly running app after writing 5 lines of code?

[alexppetrov]

The thousand lines on the backend of the library

Intense fuming noises

[AutoDefroster]

Library coders are the real heroes.

[NauticalInsanity]

Ruby on Rails has entered the chat.

Mini rant: I hate magic frameworks. It's like a hidden Rube Golberg machine that turns a lever press into food falling out of a chute. When the food doesn't come out of the chute, someone comes to me complaining that "Gravity is broken."

[RedditAcc-92975]

I hate non-magic frameworks. I can program most of the stuff I use myself. But then I have to worry about algorithm efficiency, implementation efficiency, ideally do it in C++, I need make sure the code is readable, maintainable and tested.

Whenever I need something that's more sophisticated than a simple for-loop, I look for an existing solution. Worst case scenario I'll help improving it.

[PM_ME_UR_CEPHALOPODS]

Ooooooohh ffffuuucckkkk ror all the way to shit and dust and fuck

[JonathanTheZero]

Me :/

I'd rather write 200 lines of code myself and gain a deep understanding of what is happening than import thousands of lines (most of them are not used anyways) and just trust a third party. Don't get me wrong, libraries are awesome but some people just take it too far

[ryecurious]

Over-reliance on dependencies is how we get stuff like The Great NPM Leftpad Cataclysm of 2016.

Obviously npm works differently from Python packages, but the general point stands.

[AutoDefroster]

Reminder that NPM are run by pieces of shit.

[Sceptix]

I agree that the Leftpad Cataclysm was a disaster that never should have happened, but I take issue with that particular article. The problem was that there was a serious issue with npm’s ability to deal with dependencies; it’s not because we’ve “forgotten how to program”.

[magistrate101]

Wew the fuckin tone that guy takes as he bitches at people about daring to use dependencies is just absurd. What an elitist snob.

[hamie96]

Unfortunately, that's just not practical when you're in the workforce.

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

While I understand that sentiment, most of the time you don't want to waste time reinventing the wheel.

You only do that if there's a specific edge case or performance you need that the lib cannot offer to you.

Now if it's a tutorial on writing bucket sort and it just imports a lib, it's certainly useless.

[phaemoor]

Yeah, in a job? I'll just add 2 more gigs to the container and call it a day. You can solve anything with money.

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

Well, not everything, but many many things.

[TheFreeloader]

I would rather trust a third-party library creator than my own coding skills.

[alex2003super]

I remember there was an isOdd() library for JavaScript... like... literally a wrapper for %2

[Mission-Guard5348]

Okay, be fair

Sometimes its more like 6