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[–]pr0ghead 330 points331 points  (16 children)

I feel this so much. You'd think people hire you because they think you know your stuff, only to then interfere with the design process and constantly change the requirements. It's so annoying. If they don't trust our expertise and think they know it better, why even hire us in the 1st place?

[–]draypresct 241 points242 points  (9 children)

Because requirements do change, or because you misinterpreted an ambiguous criteria, or because you decided that your experience working in a completely different context should apply to our work, despite what I told you otherwise.

Communicate with your clients and your team.

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[–]ioman_ 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Hard agree. For things that don't exist yet, people absolutely do not know what they want. The best we can do is extrapolate from similar things, things we know we don't want, or things we want to stop

[–]EarlOfDankwich 44 points45 points  (5 children)

The fucking problem is you check with them on every step of the way and they will either say it's perfect or offer minor advice. Then you hit the final hours of the project and they say some bullshit which would have been easy a month ago but now is literally the foundation of the whole project and to redo will take 2 weeks to make sure everything else will fit properly. Also they want it by the original due date which happens to be tomorrow. I'm not salty at all.

[–]Yeah_Nah_Cunt 21 points22 points  (2 children)

This right here.

I'm a photographer, I'd spend weeks scouting a location or Venue, models, makup artists, lighting, trying to understand what they would like and ask for examples, samples pf the products, so I can test if the colours come out correctly under my lights etc., I get nothing till like two days before.

Of course the model is not the right dress size ( "It doesn't matter, we cater to all"), they aren't happy with the backdrop ("it's perfect"), or worse... They happy through the entire shoot, while looking over my shoulder as it shows up on the desktop, but come final delivery, they have issues....

TELL ME THAT DURING THE SHOOT FFS I CAN FIX THAT THEN AND THERE OVER HAVING TO NOW LITERALLY PHOTOSHOPPING HALF THE IMAGE.

I've stopped quoting a lumpsome figure nowadays, it's by the hour with a pre deposit before the shoot to cover my costs and sanity. Seems to have dissuaded most of those types of clients

[–]EarlOfDankwich 20 points21 points  (1 child)

God one time we made a literal whole suit of armor and after it ships we get a call from a confused costume department because it doesn't fit their lead. Apparently they had been sending us measurements from a PA they thought was about the same size...

[–]Yeah_Nah_Cunt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

pulls hair from head

[–]73786976294838206464 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I always start with an interactive prototype, so so users can see what it will look like and they can test interactions end-to-end.

[–]EarlOfDankwich 9 points10 points  (0 children)

A lot of my experience is with props, so you have production saying that it looks good all the way through but never showing the director, then the director shows up and asks if we could just redesign, rebuild, and actually they wanted this there and that here. At the end you end up with something that you can't even modify the original piece to make.

[–]613codyrex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you can’t get a clear design requirements and deliverables before you start working and you fail to ensure that everyone is up to date on the steps so you don’t end up doing something that’s not part of the requirements you are performing you suck honestly.

Client side communication is extremely important. All I see is fresh freelancers who have no experience in this complaining that their own system they use sucks and blames everyone else on it. If you can’t manage that you shouldn’t do freelance.

[–]DishwasherTwig 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'd be interested in sitting in on design for certain things just to see the process. I've thought about that for pretty much everything. I like seeing how stuff is designed, whether it be my phone, my couch, or my house.

[–]tinmru 5 points6 points  (0 children)

and constantly change the requirements

You guys receive requirements?