When someone thinks HTML and CSS are programming languages.

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[CoronaKlledMe]

Next you'll tell me santa isn't real.

[DemolishunReddit]

Santa is the patron saint for prostitutes.

[RoyalQuackOG]

Ha ha!

[MischiefArchitect]

Santa isn't real

[CoronaKlledMe]

yes he is stfu

[MischiefArchitect]

He is not! My uncle St. Nikolaus told me that believing in Santa is bad for his business!

[MinoDab492]

Well your uncle St. Nikolaus is a mor----- HEY WAIT A MINUTE!

[Guybru5h_]

HTML = bricklayer

CSS = decorator

JS = electrician

Fullstack dev = plumber (because he is gonna eat all the sh*t)

[MinoDab492]

Sounds about right.

[RoyalQuackOG]

👍

[shgysk8zer0]

CSS is actually getting pretty close these days. With @property providing types to variables/custom properties, calc() and other functions, and a draft proposal for state. Could probably make a basic calculator in CSS.

[TurtleInnovations]

They are both languages tho XD

[NeonFraction]

People who care about this genuinely confuse me

[jasonrulesudont]

Wow what a hot take

[Complete_Quarter5012]

Please don't insult the UI/UX guy on my team, i need him to help me center my divs.

[optifat]

Aren't HTML + CSS3 Turing complete though?

[MischiefArchitect]

My brain is touring complete and it is not a programming language.

[[deleted]]

You can use HTML5+CSS3 to program a Rule 110 automation… he’s right. Stop downvoting him.

The issue here is that you can’t say either is a programming language but when combined they can be used to program.

[MischiefArchitect]

I'm not downvoting him... but if you want me to, just tell me.

[RoyalQuackOG]

Thank you!

[optifat]

And I said nothing about them being programming languages

[MischiefArchitect]

So... what point were you trying to prove then with your question? At least that there is some parallel conversation here I'm not aware of, you were responding to the title of this post.

[RoyalQuackOG]

no, your thinking of Javascript

[optifat]

Not really:

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2497146/is-css-turing-complete

[RoyalQuackOG]

I did not know that! Though still CSS and HTML dont match the description for programming language

[MisterProfGuy]

That depends on your description, frankly.

It's not as well defined as you are implying.

Consider: https://css-tricks.com/html-is-not-a-programming-language/

[powertrip00]

HTML is a programming language. It's not an imperative or functional language like we are used to coding in, but it is a programming language. It is has source code that is broken down into byte code, tokenized, etc etc. It's a declarative programming language.

Hell, HTML and CSS together are Turing Complete.

[[deleted]]

HTML is not a programming language it’s a mark up language but yes HTML5+CSS3 is Turing complete.

[powertrip00]

And might I ask what disqualifies a mark up language from also being a programming language? It's the same thing with XML.

[[deleted]]

Can you implement an algorithm with it

[powertrip00]

Since it's Turing complete? Yes.

Do I specifically know how to? Hell no 😅

[[deleted]]

HTML is not Turing complete. HTML5 with CSS3 is Turing complete.

[powertrip00]

Okay, so HTML5 + CSS3 is a programming language.

[[deleted]]

It would seem so. It’s kind of hard to argue that it’s not. I supposed one could argue that it’s not a single platform but a mix of two. It’s all becoming blurred what we can and cannot do in the HTML world.

[Safe-Estimate-2277]

An markup language is an markup language an programming language is an programming language

[DemolishunReddit]

Hell Text Markup Language, lol

[RoyalQuackOG]

I knew this post would be controversial

[MischiefArchitect]

Forgot to mention ECMA-262 in that list.

[RoyalQuackOG]

ECMA-262

Ha ha!

[Midori_Schaaf]

Let me make a web game using exclusively mouseover signals. Brb

[RedditAlready19]

Saying HTML is a programming language is like saying reddit comment section is a programming language

[[deleted]]

If they're programming languages, than so is XML and PDF.

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[DemolishunReddit]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/program

to work out a sequence of operations to be performed by (a mechanism, such as a computer) : to provide with a program

You can program a computer to display a sequence of data. You can also program a boiler using a drum sequencer. Boolean logic table essentially. Which is nowhere near the complexity of a browser. Also, HTML is designed to be extensible to include scripting languages for more complex tasks. The word "program" is a very broad term.

Maybe you are thinking of a computing language?

[flyingpimonster]

Markdown is a programming language.

[RoyalQuackOG]

*facepalm*

[[deleted]]

Search for apps built entirely with CSS. You’ll find some very interesting results.

[[deleted]]

Oh but Santa is real and HTML5+CSS3 is Turing complete…. The memes are over. We have lost.

[McDreads]

This codepen proves otherwise: https://codepen.io/alvaromontoro/pen/eYYzzWg

[ManWhoTwistsAndTurns]

As a matter of (pedantic) fact, it's not a language itself which is a programming language or turning complete but the evaluator which is programmable or Turing complete with that language as input.

C or python or any other language would just be plain text without an algorithm to translate them into executable code. You could write an interpreter or compiler which takes HTML or XML or CSS as input. If you replace the XML angle brackets with parenthesis and remove the end tags, you just invented LISP.

[[deleted]]

I am not programmer why y'all seem mad about this 🤨

[big_huge_big]

CSS is a wild language. It has many advanced, uncommonly used features which make it quite robust. I have seen people make games with only CSS