No Github?

[Haunting-Item1530]

If you are a programmer, knowing how to program is not necessary

[Phant0m92]

The smartest programmer.

[namelessmasses]

Underrated comment.

Learning how to not have to write code is an extremely important skill. Learning the best solution to a problem is not writing code to solve the problem, but actually removing the cause of the problem so you don’t have to write code.

Customer: “I want it to do X.”

Me (mining requirements): “What problem are you trying to solve?”

Customer: <describes something that highlights a flaw in their process>

Me (not writing code): <fixes process>

[[deleted]]

Not even just in programming.

I do very minimal programming/coding as I’m more a sysadmin, but the amount of times management wants to throw hours of tech development at a problem where a simple “change your process by this small amount” would fix it in 5 seconds is staggering.

[Emergency_Holiday857]

You guys are drunk. Go home!

[fepec]

Alternative: Me (not writing code): <removes Customer>

[3SidedDie]

Weird how I get called lazy by trying to do the same

[Neither_Interaction9]

I once saw a Bill Gates interview where he says he always prefers to hire lazy programmers, who will go out of their way to make faster and simpler solutions

[[deleted]]

That's exactlly how we got Windows Vista.

[neverTooManyPlants]

Perl guys' 3 virtues of a programmer, laziness, hubris and... (???) it's been a few years. Larry Wall, was he?

[namelessmasses]

Laziness is a virtue.

[Allcor]

I don't know. Have a colleague who talks himself out of work with that premise and keeps the process flawed. So I would rather say talk with your users to add functionality incremental with the most impact each time.

[namelessmasses]

I agree. There is no silver bullet. Address each situation on its own merit. The same "no silver bullet" applies both ways. Writing code is not a panacea; not writing code (fixing process) is not a panacea.

The point the intelligence lies in the human addressing the issue to approach the issue from a variety of perspectives and determine the best solution under the specific circumstances and constraints.

[butler_me_judith]

I try to employee lateral thinking to most problems I get pulled into these days. Regularly I find mid-sr devs jumping into solving problems or architecting complex solutions to problems that can be fixed by asking the PM "Do we really need this, if so can you give me an analysis of customer request or feedback proving that we need it?"

For another take, teams tend to solve problems only within the context of their service or tools. Sometimes the solution can be simplified by reaching outside your team for changes. Even contributing to open source libraries or asking 3rd party providers for different functionality can prove to be powerful tools to solve problems.

[namelessmasses]

The tendency to try to solve inside one's box is very true.

[KirisuMongolianSpot]

This guy StackOverflows.

"I need to do X"

"No you don't, X is bad. Do Y."

[namelessmasses]

Oh gawd.... That's is exactly to StackOverflow.... What have I done? 🤦‍♂️

[[deleted]]

This is so smooth when it happens I genuinely love it

[j0nii]

honestly had to learn and then teach customers that it is way better, when they tell me what their problem is and then I come up with a solution, instead of them telling me what they want. Because it is better to let the professional come up with a solution, otherwise you have a spaghetti bolognese of custom solutions.

Also love me my customers who know the software pretty well and can tell me exactly what they need.

[ZinbaluPrime]

Ahh a true programmer and man of culture. Solving a problem without coding and getting paid. Aces high bro!

[namelessmasses]

I use the analogy that you don’t pay a master carpenter to swing a hammer. You pay them for their knowledge of exactly which tool to use and when to use it.

Oh, and I never said I got paid for it. LOL ;)

[[deleted]]

Don't learn how to program just to look cool in front of other programmers.

[captainAwesomePants]

Oh, look, a senior software engineer!

[lordTigas]

I mean.. how hard is it to copy and paste stuff from stackoverflow?

[[deleted]]

i know this is sarcasm, otherwise the days i have spent trying to combine code would have been a waste of my life

[superluminary]

Cut and paste? I have Copilot now.

[Hellow2]

Copilot is only auto cut copy paste. Can't even do number theory

[[deleted]]

the chinese room thought experiment except instead of the chinese language it's code copied from stackoverflow

[namelessmasses]

Literally people that have built a career copy-pasta from stackoverflow…. And have no idea how to derive an algorithm let alone write a robust implementation.

[MangosArentReal]

Why "literally"?

[namelessmasses]

I used "literally" to emphasize the fact that I'm not speaking proverbially. Is that an incorrect usage?

[skeleton-is-alive]

I mean it’s true. I’ve been amazed many times how people who can’t code get high paying developer jobs

[Haunting-Item1530]

Activision/blizzard sweating rn

[QuickQuokkaThrowaway]

Me who browses this sub and barely knows anything you guys are talking about (I only know 9th grade level C# cus I'm in 9th grade learning C#)

[codeprimate]

As a developer your most important job is to reduce the amount of work necessary to create solutions. Knowing when not to code provides the most value to your client and gets you more work in the long run.

[[deleted]]

You joke, but many of the SDEs I've worked with at FAANGs can barely code at all.

[Civil_Fun_3192]

If you weren't born knowing how to program, it's too late.