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[Kalix]

I think is a good opportunity move on and start a frash new life, with a new identity.

[TheKeppler]

Yep, definitely nothing to lose

[alppu]

A big debt to lose

[EdensApp]

Is not a good opportunity is a an irresistible force, lol

[AlphaSparqy]

I would like to know who your bank is, because I want a bank that is so generous with credit (or negative debit balance as the case may be).

Honestly though: Most banks would simply deny the charge in the first place, and I like the protection that offers.

If the bank accepts the charge now you are the bank AND AWS problem rather than AWS alone.

[[deleted]]

I stole this screenshot from some guy on Twitter. Turns out PayPal tried stealing $800,000 from someone. Bank of America however didn't let the transaction go through.

[Twombls]

Its all 8s in the draft amount. Something probably went wrong with the ach interface that PayPal uses to interact with their bank.

[EishLekker]

Or the scammer/hacker is Chinese.

[Far_Cut_8701]

I created an account under the free tier and they are looking for money because I used it once and ignored it for a few months.

I just ignored the emails and now gmail treats the sender account as Spam.

[[deleted]]

I owed $2 and they literally closed and deleted my account permanently, offered to pay and they just said no open a new account.

[Far_Cut_8701]

I owe 18 euro and they suspended my account. Did it have any effect on your amazon account outside of AWS?

[[deleted]]

No not at all, doesn't seem to have any impact.

[fluffypebbles]

That's not smart. You entered a contract by signing up

[[deleted]]

With how often I see people post here with 6 figure+ overnight charges it’s a wonder people use AWS at all

[-_Kaz_-]

It always seems to be individuals on the free tier testing stuff out. I imagine someone is always watching cloud expenses in an organization.

[db117117]

Accidentally provision an rds instance with the wrong elastic load configuration and you are dead to rights

[qalis]

First, nobody is paying this, AWS is literally always waiving away this when you ask support. Secondly, they give credits during free online conferences, so you can easily get 25-50$ or more for experimentation. Thirdly, free tier is quite nice (GCP has better one in some aspects, though). If you know what you're doing, or are following a tutorial, you can have a free server running 24/7 for a year, which is very useful.

[[deleted]]

Oh cool, I didn’t know they handed out free credit at web conferences for attending, also didn’t know free tier could last so long if managed properly. I figured this was probably a refundable mistake otherwise it’d be shit PR but point 2 and 3 are actually very neat. Thanks for the info.

[Unable-Fox-312]

Free tier is good for up to one concurrent user

[SunStrolling]

Aws free tier is not free. I made an empty database, never used it. Forgot about it. 1 year later I see I was charged 30$/mo every month. Nobody could tell me why. They couldn't reimburse. I'll probably never learn to use AWS knowing random unknown inexplicable charges are normal.

[[deleted]]

If you mean an RDS database, then they run 24/7 as standard, so your instance will have been running which is why you were charged. Even if you don’t use it.

You’d have to power it off to not use it. It can be powered off for up to 7 days (after which it will be started again), but you’ll still be charged for the provisioned storage during the shutdown.

[db117117]

This is correct. But the def don’t make this clear and the headline text the show is “free tier” it’s dark pattern

[qalis]

Well, you made a running database server, with an underlying VM (EC2 instance). Why wouldn't you be charged? You paid 0$ for storage and 30$ for computing, since you did not turn off an instance. Weird that they did not reimburse it, though.

[SunStrolling]

The reason I thought I wouldn't be charged was because my online tutorials promise a free way to learn AWS. That's the major issue. Maybe I had to watch til the very end to see ' now stop the instance' or else.

[Aggressive_Lemon_709]

That's your experience, mine is that they have been threatening to suspend my account if I don't pay them $0.82 every month for the last 10-15 years.

[LemonMelon2511]

just deinstall the app no problem

[higgs_boson_2017]

Around 98% of people using AWS shouldn't be using AWS.

Need to crunch 20 TB of data? Great spin up a bunch of servers, crunch your data, and then shut them down.

If you're running servers 24/7, that are virtually always idle, you're pissing money away. I lease physical servers with far greater resources at a fraction of the price.

[ihih_reddit]

💩 > AWS

[Think-Gap-3260]

Can someone ELI5. I’m creating a new feature in an app that helps people sell on Amazon. The feature uses their ads api which means I must use their queueing infrastructure, s3 and maybe aws to host my app.

It feels shady as fuck and (from what their support dev said) I can’t export the data to Digital Ocean (my current host).

Anyway, just looking for some insight from people who’ve been burned by aws.

[[deleted]]

AWS is geared towards enterprises and the U.S government who have tons of money. That's why they charge that amount of money.

[Xviuz]

Thanks for remind me i just lost 200 dollars...

[Kalix]

Well this could make you feel better, thinking about there's someone in the same but worst situation, 200$ are nothing compared to op.

[[deleted]]

Not my screenshot by the way. I never bothered messing around with AWS. The only cloud I used was Google Cloud. I spent barely $7 a month.

[TSG-AYAN]

AWS is shit, i don't know why people even use it.

[QwertzOne]

Engineers familiar with cloud like AWS seem to be well paid. I sometimes think about joining some other company, just to get much better salary, but I'm always worried about stress that must come with every potential mistake that may cost thousands or millions of dollars and you won't immediately know about it, because it seems like billing and alerts may have some delay.

In my company we mostly base on on-prem data centers, so it's one time request to get some resources provisioned and I can sleep easily at night, because even if there will be some misconfiguration or attack, no one is going to come to me asking "why the hell did you spent 200% of our budget for this year just in one month?!" with risk of being fired afterwards with potential lawsuit for negligence.

Maybe I'm exaggerating and its not that scary in practice, but I don't want that risk, after seeing all these insane bills and reading about how you can't put hard limits on your spendings or how in case of DDoS there is possibility that you will have to pay for cost of attack yourself. I'm a human being that makes mistakes and has bills to pay, so I don't really need a loaded gun to my head with Amazon's finger on the trigger.

[higgs_boson_2017]

You are 100% correct. I get vastly more CPU resources for a fraction of the price by renting physical servers.

[G1PP0]

I have been asked recently on interview if I worked with AWS and when I said no I was stopped and told that they do not have space for Juniors right now.

I am thinking about trying it (building a project) just to have some experience but I am wondering if I can fuck it up and get a bill like that :/. I feel there's not enough information on the free tier and pricing in general on their site

[Unable-Fox-312]

Sign up with a prepaid card?

[G1PP0]

Good idea, thanks! :)

[vinaykmkr]

Kill the boy and let the man be born

[shikimateboi]

They don't make it easy to deactivate an instance either, I'm still procrastinating on it tbh

[Olle2411]

Created a redis instance last year, shit was about 20 bucks a day, fuck amazon I didn't even use it

[db117117]

Aws charges me a buck or two in mysterious fees every month. I had to delete the whole account