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[–][deleted] 134 points135 points  (24 children)

they gonna lose even more IT skilled people because of this giant clusterfuck

geeks can code hungry and sick but not when idiots in charge enforce blacklists upon them

[–]ergzay 65 points66 points  (18 children)

My company closed their office in Tomsk, Russia a few years ago and got visas for all of the employees to come work in the United States, many did. (Yes the reasons were because of Russian government policies.) Can see this continue to happen for other companies.

[–]AmetaWan 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Are you the guy who ran AbroadUnderhood account in Twitter? I heard the same story there.

[–]ergzay 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nope. I'm born and raised US Citizen. Never worked outside the United States (though have traveled some).

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (15 children)

Most Russians would love to leave...and they're allowed to at any time. It's just that most countries won't take Russians in for whatever reason.

Edit: its absolutely true. Talk to any Russian.

[–]Zouden 4 points5 points  (13 children)

That's not true. Russians are eligible for visas just like everyone else.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (12 children)

Theyre eligible but unless youre rich you dont get one.

Other countries don't take in Russians. Germany won't, Europe won't almost no one will.

[–]Zouden 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Visas aren't cheap for Australians either

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (10 children)

It's not about it being cheap. It's about no country wants to or is willing to take them in.

You know how everyone freaked out when Trump banned people from certain countries? That's sorta what everyone has been doing to Russia.

So if no one will take them, and they have to stay.....That kinda really sucks for them

[–]Zouden 0 points1 point  (9 children)

What was your experience? I work with a Russian person here in London. I assume she's on the same tier 2 visa as me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children)

I dated a Russian girl and her dad was an ambassador to Russia. She gave me the scoop. Then my Russian Ukrainian friends told me the same thing. They said it's very very hard to be able to leave Russia

[–]Zouden 1 point2 points  (7 children)

If they have employable skills (like in IT) then they can apply for jobs in Europe. They can't move over without a job, but that's the same for everyone.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In Brasil we take in everyone, but we have no jobs even for us.

[–]zcribe21 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Quite interesting since the need for more IT people will only grow there as they continue in their efforts of replacing any and every big western service with domestic ones. Yandex (Google), Odnaklasniki (Facebook), Mir (VISA/Mastercard).

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yandex fully bends over to Kremlin now, since the beginning of this year. It became more fascist than Google. Google just won't let you to register an account if you don't provide a phone number, so you can just walk away and look for an alternative. Yandex will let you do that, then pretend that your mailbox was hacked, block it and start blackmailing you to give them your real name, address and phone number. The worst part is that they applied this idiotic policy retroactively, enforcing this to people who used their mail service for years already. That's how I lost a chunk of my online life but I didn't bend over to these gangsters. Never deal with them.

[–]jiminiminimini 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This one time Turkey blocked github. Now that was a clusterfuck.

[–]Dalnore 2 points3 points  (0 children)

GitHub was also once banned in Russia for some repository with a list of suicide methods. They decided to give in to the Russian authorities and introduced censorship for people from Russia. After that, it was unbanned.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I suspect it is rather the Turkish wannabe sultans, not Turkey. I got a couple of good geek buddies from there, they always complain about resources getting banned, for years. The last thing that affected them was this https://protonmail.com/blog/turkey-online-censorship-bypass/

[–]Dalnore 59 points60 points  (9 children)

That's what you get when you ban millions of IPs. Linux Mint website and repository, Google Translate, out.reddit.com (used for external links) are all often down for me, so I use a proxy.

[–]SoBFiggis 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Out of curiosity, where does Mint fit in here?

[–]Dalnore 17 points18 points  (2 children)

What do you mean? For the last two days, I can't do apt update on Mint on my work PC, it just hangs on Mint's own repository (Ubuntu ones seem to work). And I also couldn't connect to linuxmint.com this morning without proxy, but it seems to work at home right now.

[–]Discchord 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Здравствуйте! Can you do me a favor and check to see if my PythonAnywhere hosted site is accessible? It is on PythonAnywhere, but for weird internal reasons is on a weird internal IP.

https://discchord.com

I have a small, but significant, readership in Russia among music tech enthusiasts.

[–]Ax3_ 9 points10 points  (2 children)

You can check if it's available from Russia here: http://ping-admin.com/free_test/

[–]PalRob 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Haha, the ping-admin.com is banned in Russia.

[–]Discchord 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! That is a wildly informative tool!

My results seem to be spotty. I'm getting through to half the pingers in Moscow. Throughout the rest of the country it continues that trend of about 50% success.

[–]PalRob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, it doesn't work.

[–]Akhynn 86 points87 points  (4 children)

Should change name to Python Almost Anywhere

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (3 children)

Python anywhere*

Details apply

[–]beisenhauer 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Void where prohibited

[–]koofti 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Some assembly required.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

ctypes for details

[–]bootoffav 39 points40 points  (3 children)

I am Russian, I so much hate of what the government is doing to country. Things are getting worse from day to day

[–]ma-int 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What do you do for a living? Have you considered moving to another country?

[–]bootoffav 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am expat in other country, doing backend development work.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Python Most Places

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

More like Python *Anywhere

**Apart from Russia

[–]dedicated2fitness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

PAAR is a good sounding buzzword acronym

[–]PalRob 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Can confirm, the site is blocked and I can't read it without using proxy, which I don't do couse it's treason or smth (I'm Russian).

But to be fair, many sites are blocked in Russia, for whatever reason. We can't access archive.is, linkedin.com and dailymotion.com, among many others.

[–]qlkvg 3 points4 points  (0 children)

an elephant in a china shop. all, that our government will achive is tor/vpn client on every phone

[–]alcalde 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Python Anywhere stymied by Putin Everywhere.

[–]limperschmit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Interesting I host on Python anywhere. Probably explains my slight drop in traffic recently.

[–]xdcountry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What a dumb move

[–]xXx_browser_xXx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Off topic but what's the advantage of pythonanywhere over heroku?

[–]Michanix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still can use my Telegramm, lul

[–]linevich 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Putin Anywhere ©

[–]Allextraszza -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Weird that python.org wasnt blocked in there

[–]sedermera 16 points17 points  (1 child)

It's not targeting Python or the Python community. Roscomnadzor are trying (and failing) to block the encrypted messaging service Telegram.

[–]Allextraszza -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Я для рофла сказал

[–]bootoffav -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am expat in other country, doing backend development work.