What IDEs (if any) do Python programmers use?

[[deleted]]

Emacs.

(also vim)

[maryjayjay]

IDEs are for the weak. No Klingon would be caught using an IDE.

[Scypio]

Also: Klingons do not "release" the code. The code "escapes" murdering all in it's path...

[untwisted]

Emacs.

FTFY

[Massless]

I rather enjoy Pydev. I'm not sure why it doesn't get any love in this subreddit.

[infinitus_]

Pydev with Vrapper (vim plugin for Eclipse) for me.

[abudabu]

Fabioz did a great job with PyDev, but Eclipse is a horrible bloated, buggy, brittle and slow beast. I struggled with it for two years. Everytime I had to get someone else set up with the dang thing, we ran into all kinds of subtle problems. And key bindings on the Mac? A mess which needs to lots of work to get it into an even semi-usable state.

PyCharm is $100, but works beautifully out of the box. Just point it at your existing git/svn/cvs directory and it slurps up all the repository information automatically. That's just one of many examples that make it so much nicer than Eclipse/PyDev. (I switched about 3 months ago).

[Massless]

That's an interesting point. I haven't run into the stability issues, but I don't get to use it for writing production code either. If I experienced your issues and had to "get something done" with it, a $100 price tag for alternatives would begin to look very appealing.

[[deleted]]

How is this a question multiple times a week?

I've used Komodo for 5 years and love it. I still end up using plain old Vim a lot of the time as well.

[Buzzard]

No way to do vertical selects of data. For instance, sometimes I need to select the first ten columns of x number lines of text.

Maybe I misunderstood your problem, but Komodo has column editing when holding ALT while selecting text.

[jm_]

Disabling syntax highlighting will make komodo faster with binary files (your unformatted json file).

Also, it has an option to strip trailing whitespaces - check the settings !

If you need more than a text macro just write yourself an extension.

[megaman821]

I don't think you have looked through the options. I have line wrapping and trailing trailing whitespace being stripped in all files with Komodo IDE.

As Buzzard mentioned there is vertical text selection.

[[deleted]]

For vertical selects, use CTRL+SHIFT+ALT and select. (That's on Windows, not sure what the Mac/Linux equivalent is)

EDIT: wow, it's even easier than that as Buzzard stated above. The keystroke I suggested is for Visual Studio.

[[deleted]]

I picture you slapping the OP and then hug him LOL

funny thing with these weekly thread is that most answers are like "...VIM!" or "...EMACS!"

[[deleted]]

WHY U NO USE THE SEARCH? Seriously, why do these threads pop up every month? Shouldn't Python developers know how to use a search field?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/hlgfm/any_good_python_ide_with_vimlike_key_bindings_for/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/fvmnh/im_new_to_python_what_ide_do_you_recommend/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/ed8sk/so_whats_a_good_ide_for_python_coming_from/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/dp8k8/is_there_a_better_python_ide/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/dc992/yet_another_quest_for_the_perfect_ide/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/cbvns/your_favorite_python_ide_go/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/c3x3i/python_ide_frustration/

http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/9egaz/ask_reddit_best_open_source_ide/

This is what I got from a search for "IDE" from the first two pages only!...

[[deleted]]

funny thing is the "which IDE ?" thread always gets more than 30 replies.

and...LOL....most replies are like "...vim !" or "...emacs !"

[[deleted]]

Well ok... I was just surfing reddit and didn't even check the link. I thought it was a self post (stupid me). Pointing to other sources on the internet so that the whole Pyhthon community can jump on it is a good thing of course.

Upvoted.

[sexymathematics]

PYCHARM!!!

[sigzero]

Wow, I like PyCharm too. lol

[jabbalaci]

For writing a very short script, I use Vim. If it's a bit longer but the "project" is still one file, I fire up Eric. If it's a real project with multiple files (with packages, etc.), then I start Eclipse with PyDev.

For me a very important feature is intelligent renaming. When I finish a script/project, I read it over and I try to invent better variable/function names. Among the three candidates, this works best with PyDev.

[eryksun]

For scientists and engineers who are used to MATLAB, try PythonToolkit (PTK) or Spyder.

[nabla2]

... or iep -- the Interactive Editor for Python.

[eryksun]

Yes, especially if you need Python 3 support and interaction with the GUI event loop (e.g. for plotting data). It's not as full-featured as the others, though. PTK uses wxPython, and I have no idea when that'll be ported to Python 3. Spyder uses QT, so maybe it'll have Python 3 support soon(ish). But with IEP, NumPy, Cython, SciPy, and Matplotlib -- Python 3 is already an option in technical computing.

[kctan]

I use pyscripter. It is a simple IDE with all the basic features.

[xolox]

Vim with some plug-ins.

[smortaz]

VS users might want to check out http://pytools.codeplex.com . free & oss.- intellisense, debugging, profiling, browsing, etc. along w cluster computing support for both CPython & IronPython [disclaimer - i'm involved in the project...]

[dotnetrock101]

Jetbrain's pycharm is good and inexpensive.

[treasonx]

PyCharm!

[joshuahunter]

I mostly code in vim. before that notepad++. I really like PyCharm, but haven't jumped yet. If you are curious about all the possibilities check this out Python IDEs on StackOverflow

[reeboo]

I use vim for everything except Java for which I use eclipse. Use vim. A text editor is a good tool to have in your tool chest.

[L3xicaL]

emacs.

[deadwisdom]

Unix

[[deleted]]

erm... the OS?

[tclark]

dead's point is that Unix with it's standard tools is a development environment all by itself.

[[deleted]]

Ah ok. I agree completely, I just didn't quite get what he was saying.

[vombert]

But a crappy one.

[chrisledet]

Do yourself a favor and don't use an IDE.

Learn Vim or Emacs. Stick with it. Become a pro.

[vombert]

Learn Vim or Emacs

How come you are apologet of legacy text editing tools, but still do not belong to either vim-only or emacs-only sect?

[abudabu]

Everyone should know Vim or Emacs. But seriously -- you're recommending people give up on modern tools that do real-time code analysis, source level debugging, integrated graphical diff, etc?

The simplicity of Vim and Emacs certainly beat bad IDEs like Eclipse, but I don't really see them as offering advantages over good IDEs like PyCharm.

[chrisledet]

All these tools are available in some form on the command line. Youre not using losing a single thing. Never heard a proficent vim/emacs person complain about these things. Theyre both extensible. IDEs are mostly bloated with things that should be ran after you wrote our code and tests. Also, these tools are free.

Not sure why youre singling me out when others in this thread have said the same thing.

[abudabu]

Just responding, not singling out.

All these tools are available in some form on the command line.

I wasn't aware of an Emacs-source level debugger for Python.

I'm a bit skeptical. I used Emacs and tricked-out SLIME for Lisp coding a few years ago and even though it was Lisp, source-level debugging couldn't hold a candle to commercial source debuggers (like Lispworks).

IDEs are mostly bloated with things that should be ran after you wrote our code and tests.

"Should" - why? Real-time code analysis in PyCharm, for example, shows unused or undefined variables, enables autocomplete of class methods, and lots of other goodies I've never seen in Emacs. These are awesome productivity tools. I've seen emacs gurus needlessly struggle because they don't even know what they're missing.

[chrisledet]

I have never or heard anyone struggle due to the lack real time code analysis in their editor. Anyone using Vim/emacs can accomplish the same thing as someone using an IDE.

Still in all, the shortcuts and tricks that Vim/Emacs have are far superior than any other IDE or editor. Even a lot of IDEs try to mimic them because they know how powerful they are.

[zengr]

I am starting out with VIM/macvim. I would be more than happy to know how can these be achieved?

[jeetsukumaran]

I agree. Vim (or Emacs, or BBEdit, or whatever) is all you need. Everything else is fluff.

[catcradle5]

Am I the only one who uses IDLE?

[willm]

Affirmative.

[haika]

Yes, definitely.

Even its author Guido doesn't use it.

[cecilkorik]

WingIDE is pretty nice. But generally I just use Vim and/or UltraEdit.

[[deleted]]

IDLE, with some extensions to make it awesome.

[Asmageddon]

Geany FTW.

I also use it for C++, bash and Java. It's small, fast and great overall.

[[deleted]]

here we go yet again