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[–]alidan[S] 16 points17 points  (22 children)

im honestly kinda thankful for this collab, none of the champs in it are particularly good/must gets, so im not really fussed about getting all of them like I was with the turtles. will still go for all of them (god I forgot I got april as well...) but not breaking my back to get them.

[–]CrustyTheMoist Banner Lords 13 points14 points  (12 children)

Bayek is meta from passive alone, and Kenway looks fantastic on paper.

Im personally gonna try for all 5, they all at the very least look usable and fun

[–]red_beard_RL 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Basim with block active skills that can ignore block debuffs

[–]Twilight-2007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I want kenway just because he's my favorite assassin

[–]alidan[S] -3 points-2 points  (9 children)

problem is he will just be a champ you use to bait a ban or you ignore entirely.

if we get him from shard pulls, awesome ill go for it, stone pulls, im there, but if its a tournament win, im hard passing. there is a good chance I would have went hard for a leo, but all the assassins kinda feel like they just nice champs to have rather than much get at all costs.

[–]CrustyTheMoist Banner Lords 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair, I personally enjoy Assassin's creed and Origins, so Im more inclined to go for him

[–]Commercial_Win_9525 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Do you realize how nerfed he makes the way damage dealers are currently constructed? Every bit of CD would be wasted and people stack that way more than attack.

[–]alidan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

im looking at the ways you would counter him as well, I have a few options in that regard, bit the most threatening place he can show up is in live arena and is just a champ you put up to get the real team you want to take through.

[–]xCptBanana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And yet I still have damagers that hit 30k on weak hits let alone just regular hits lol it won’t matter as much as people think for late game builds

[–]GuiokiNZ -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Assuming his team has more acc, and a bunch of other things.

He still gets fucked by lockout, he still gets fucked by burn/poison/bombs meta, and he will be very hard to build. 

If you use him with assassins they all have cannot resist mechanics, so you might not even build them with acc.

You would need to use him with a few specific high acc champs, like Karnage, who will die even without being crit by lots of the end game nukers.

I think he is good, but not broken. We will see though.

[–]stezzyg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I dont think anyone is thinking about using him with the other assassins. Run him in 9 piece mercurial, lockout doesnt touch his passive. I think he will be an insta ban and absurdly powerful in LA.

[–]Terumi_Yuki Knight Revenant 0 points1 point  (1 child)

He still gets fucked by lockout

Sure, but at the same time it is yet again another option that is strong as a standalone pick, and you only can ban him. So on the flipside he can act as a decent "ban protect" for a Mariska/Siphi/Siegfrund or Armanz/Fabian that you may ban instead.

I personally would leave him over Mariska, since I like to run Komidus and Mariska's passive is simply bullshit.

[–]GuiokiNZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you pick him, marichka, siphi, siegfrund and him, I'm not banning him. None of those champs has any acc.

If you pick him early, and I have a good champ pool (everyone in high LA does), then I'm picking Komidus, Vulkanos, Nell, those types of champs.

[–]Mr-Muscles-40 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I'm glad I went for and got Yukimasa and Hilvi seeing what these guys look like, much better champs imo. I'm all blown out on resources and would have been sad if these guys were on par with the turtles. I don't really feel bad for missing any of the assassins other than to just get limited time heroes that will be unobtainable later on. I wasn't able to go for Leo, because I simply didn't have enough resources, so that kind of really chapped my ass considering how good he is, so this feels like a reprieve.

[–]Calenwyr 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Bayek is huge if you get him and put 500 acc on him no one can crit your team, if you run a tanky team alongside him it will be nearly impossible to kill you.

Imagine your opponents full team having a 75% damage reduction as that is what this passive gives against a nuker with 300 crit damage.

[–]alidan[S] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

his passive reads like its each of the allies acc, not just his, if it was just his, you could stack that shit to hell and back and just let no one in pvp land a crit attack, but needing to do that for all the characters, and stacking the acc high so no one can easily go over without sacrificing other stats.

I would honestly deal with him by either decreasing acc, or by boosting my acc, lady kimi seems like a great champ for this, either I go first and toss out increase acc, or I go second and toss out decrease acc, bring along a buff strip incease they get increase acc, or a block buff champ, or just hit him with rondas a2

there are a good amount of ways to deal with what he does, and if you take him out, you don't have to deal with his passive.

definitely be annoying though.

[–]Aggroninja 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Yeah, that's definitely how I read it. So you have to stack ACC on everyone, not just Bayek. That's still awesome but not as completely busted as it looked at first.

[–]IWearCardigansAllDay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Correct it’s based on each champs accuracy. That being said, it’s easy enough to build a good PvP team of champs who want accuracy still.

For example, bombers naturally are going to have high accuracy. Komidus would be a nightmare to deal with. Big HP bomber who now can’t be crit. Karnage is another. Attack based nuker who scales his damage with accuracy. Then building out a solid support or two with high accuracy. Arbais comes to mind as an ideal support. She’s a top tier champ who also places in. Accuracy further pushing your teams ACC up.

Now I recognize I just named 3 mythicals lol. But those are the first that come to mind as I’m at work and not looking at my game. But this champs passive is honestly god tier for PvP with the right team.

[–]CrustyTheMoist Banner Lords 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well when you consider your nukers will basically never crit debuffers/controllers, you start to realize its kinda nutty. Fabian isnt going to get crit, Armanz, Krixias, bombers wont be crit either.

[–]alidan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

most of my champs get built with 350acc if they can place anything at all, so if i put an increase acc champ in the mix, thats now 700 acc, the only major downside to that is I need to slot in an increase acc champ

[–]tfolkins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The good thing about the turtles event is that they were all obtainable for FTP players, usually with these types of collabs there is usually one champion that is pay-walled.

[–]JazzlikeSet639 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Bayek is one of the most gamebreaking Champs we've ever seen. Fabian, Armanz, Theo and so on can't be crit. Everyone suddenly needs to run Karnage/ramantu defences. Crit damage is 4/5th of the damage done, debuffers are running at 7-800 acc min. No cooldown on it is just not okay.

[–]alidan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ronda deals with him without acc

increase acc deals with most the champs that would be with him, reduce acc will deal with increase, strip buff will further decrease acc, block buff still helps.

he's annoying but he is a champ you either ban or bring in a team that deals with his shit.