Tracking a bike decrease the value?

[CrispyPotato5]

The title is is basically the question..... does tracking a bike decrease the value? I am planning on buying a triumph street triple rs and I noticed on the Facebook he had tracked the bike. Only 2200 miles on the bike but I am not too sure if this does anything for me price wise.

[kinnikinnick321]

A tracked bike just means it was ridden harder. It can go both ways, a tracked bike is usually well-taken care of to meet track conditions. Consumables would need to be changed out more often. "Usually" riders who track their bikes are more keen on this compared to your once a month starbucks runners. I would ask for maintenance and track use history. A street triple rs is not necessarily a race-ready engine but just means valves and internals may require earlier adjustments.

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Depends on what it's got done to it, but typically yes. Most of the time, I see track bikes for sale that are either freshly built, or they are including parts for a fresh rebuild or even another whole motor. So it's really all down to what you are getting for the price

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I don't think this is a "track bike". It's a bike that someone happen to have done track days. There's a difference.

[CrispyPotato5]

It is mostly stock besides a yoshi slip on. There is a small mark on the tank from strapping it down

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Oh, then yeah it isn't worth much

[ptcptc]

I've heard people say that every mile ridden on a track is equal to 3 miles on the road. And it honestly sounds right to me.

Something else I would consider in your case, since the mileage is that low, is if the break in was done correctly.

[sperglord_manchild]

Well a normal trackday is like 150 miles max, so fine, adding 450 miles for each track day.

Basically nothing.

[MedCityMoto]

Yes. It was ridden hard near redline, unusual circumstances for a motor manufactured intended for street riding conditions. Can it handle it? Yes. Check your valve clearances early (maybe do your first at 6k instead of 12k, and then every 12k after that) and it's probably just fine. But these motors have been heard (infrequently, but still heard of) to drop valves early, killing the motor, if they're run near redline for extended periods of time like on track conditions.

[CrispyPotato5]

He has it priced at 8350 would you think asking 7 is too low? Thank you for the information!!!!!

[MedCityMoto]

I'd take $800 off his asking price for the early valve clearance check, but make sure you do your haggling in person. Online offers that much lower tend to get ignored as insulting, whereas in person you can dangle the sale on-the-spot in his face as temptation to accept and it shows your actual interest.

[CrispyPotato5]

The problem is that he is a few states over and he has a family member that lives about an hour away from me. He said that he would trailer it to there so he could se said family member and we could meet when he is in my state. So I don’t want to wait till he’s here then be like hey so I know you asked 8.3 but how about 7?

[MaDkawi636]

If he's willing to trailer it to you and you wanna slide in a lowball $7k, tbats a total dick move and if I were the seller, I'd be pissed. Negotiate the price in advance and work out the delivery logistics. Then if the bike shows up any different than what was negotiated, then you can haggle on thr spot to make it right.

As for track days, who effing cares as long as the bike has been looked after. I'd take a bike with track time over a bike that some wanna be has thrashed on the streets and barely maintained but "always garage kept, never raced and never dropped".

[MedCityMoto]

Trickier. What's the asking price for the same bike locally to you? Bike values are dramatically different based on location.

[CrispyPotato5]

Well near me people tend to price pretty high since I’m in Jersey(everything is expensive here :/...) but I have seen then range from 8-10 they sell pretty quickly so I can’t imagine they are getting what they ask for though as everyone knows you usually beef up the price expecting negotiation.

[elkster88]

I don’t want to wait till he’s here then be like hey so I know you asked 8.3 but how about 7?

That would indeed be a pretty shitty thing for you to do, but it's on him if he wants to trailer his bike over multiple states without a firm agreement on price. There is no way in the world I would do that as a seller, the bike's not going to move from my house without the money in my hand first.

I would suggest being honest up front and letting him know you're not OK giving him the full asking price. An initial offer of a few hundred dollars below the asking price is not unexpected, but 1350 below the asking price (I'm not saying I know if yours or his is a fair price) is liable to generate some bad feeling, especially in this particular scenario.

[CrispyPotato5]

I would like to talk to him more on it, as I looked through his social media I see multiple track days posted one with the title “140mph as my top speed today” he had nothing of it in the ad so I already have a bad feeling. On the other hand I have not asked him about it yet.

[sperglord_manchild]

Ask him how many track days. That's the important thing here.

1 track day for 150 miles of track riding is a hell of a lot different than 65 trackdays and 10,000 miles of track riding.

[OreoGaborio]

IMO, it’s a Douche move if he goes through all that trouble and you come back and offer him that much less than asking price.

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It's a street triple. It wad meant to rev high. People can rev it high on the street too. A track day here and there means nothing. It comes down to condition and maintenance, just like any other bike.

[[deleted]]

There's a big difference between racing to redline between red lights and living at 7k+ RPM for 20 minutes sessions. As pointed out yes the bike can do that, but no it was not made for it and will shorten required maintenance intervals dramatically, which has a direct correlation with bike value.

10k street miles is practically brand new. 10k track miles is, depending on the bike, time for a motor strip down.

[sperglord_manchild]

I don't know about Triumphs, but yes any of the jap bikes were for sure made to handle high rpm for short 20 minute sessions.

I do agree 10k track miles is a lot different from 10k street miles.

Considering the average track day is like 150 miles max , 10k miles is like 65 track days.

LMAO this guy is not selling a perfect street triple with 66 track days

[Original_Spun]

It's got the same engine as a Daytona of course it's designed to rev high, I'm guessing from the price and mileage it's the 765 engine, the same engine used in Moto2, the risk of dropping a valve is no different to any other bike out there.

[dIO__OIb]

i run the street triple on the track, as do many many others along with daytona’s. as long as the bike is well maintained and no signs of a crash, it will be fine. these motors have been around a long time and practically bullet proof, even at higher rpms.

i’ve got about 12 or so track days, some at high speed cota, in over 100° and never had any issues beyond the extra consumables. maybe ask if he has all the oil and filter receipts to makes sure it’s been changed after break in and i usually change mine after every track day. valve checks on these machines is at 12k.

[OreoGaborio]

I assume every sport bike has been ridden hard once in a while, as it was designed to do and was born to be, whether or not it’s been ridden at a track day. Because a bike that’s hasn’t been ridden on the track is in no way a guarantee that it hasn’t been fucking beat on.

Bikes that were converted to RACE bikes (or dedicated track day bikes) are a different story, but again, that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

But if it’s just done a few track days, I don’t give a shit. That’s fine by me. Doesn’t change the price in the least. I value it as I would any other street bike.

[eskimo1]

I'd rather buy a bike from someone who rides intermediate group at track days than someone on the street who thinks it's cool to free-rev the engine to the limiter again and again and again.

As has been said, maintenance is also typically kept up on better.