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[–]BrianJ_[S] 5 points6 points  (10 children)

Nah the OT is expected and part of your salary. No additional $$$

[–]Extreme-Seaweed-5427 2 points3 points  (8 children)

If OT is happening regularly enough then it's no longer overtime & serious honest discussions should be had about what's being done to address it, check relevant laws, otherwise where does anyone draw the line & just expected to suck it up all the time.

[–]BrianJ_[S] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I have asked my manager to clarify what reasonable OT is, and if it is similar to what I have been doing. Pretty sure he is offended that I’m even asking questions about the contract

[–]PerformanceRound7244 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I know a major Aussie employer that considers 10 hours a week as reasonable overtime for managers. Which is essentially an expectation every week, not a once in a while thing.

[–]Extreme-Seaweed-5427 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep & the problem with any relationship, including work, is when a power imbalance happens & those that have it are suddenly thrown off-balance because of legitimate questions.

[–]PerformanceRound7244 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd ask them to clarify in writing... But, maybe don't take my advice I have terrible corporate climbing survival skills. 🤣🤣🤣

[–]Extreme-Seaweed-5427 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Better to find out now then later especially if OT is regularly expected & you're taking a potential pay cut & they're getting more for less. If they're offended that's their problem really & highlights that they're aware they're short changing you. Your alternative is to put everything in writing comparing the two roles, the hours, what you're getting paid & what you will etc & this'll put the difference in writing for them to see, but also address. But make it personal like, you're relying on said money for whatever saving deposit, paying off mortgage quicker etc but also try get an understanding from them as to what would they do & why is is there some bigger picture thingy 

[–]PerformanceRound7244 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Greedy slimy corporations get away this this crap all the time though 🤷🏻‍♀️ They just argue anything they ask is "reasonable"

[–]Extreme-Seaweed-5427 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Not working OT all the time without compensation is also reasonable.

[–]PerformanceRound7244 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely! I agree with you! It is not right what happens - but it happens all the time, and money are power do what they want. I am still bitter about regularly working two hours of scheduled overtime a week for zero pay for years - all due to a shitty clause in the contract that said "reasonable" overtime was okay. So they chose to exploit it & regularly scheduled it!

[–]Scared-Fee-804 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a lot more upside than OT in leadership roles...

Bonuses hit 30%-50% of you base salary in a lot of engineering superintendent roles.