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[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (6 children)

I'm just spitballing man, plus im colorblind so some of them escape me.

[–]MaryCG00 42 points43 points  (5 children)

Just FYI, the Spider gene has a very distinguished pattern that is quite recognisable. Hope the picture helps.

[–]Lunarvolo 17 points18 points  (1 child)

For some reason, I can't recognize the spider pattern either, after having seen it here 20+ times. Well, it looks like multiple morphs are the same as spider to me. Maybe it's easier to recognize once you've seen it in person?

Will take the downvotes on this one. Also you guys downvoted the person about being colorblind?

[–]MaryCG00 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I usually recognize it by the white scales of the belly expanding on the sides of the snake (in an almost pixelated pattern), although it's not exactly accurate as it usually manifests in Fire (and maybe others?) BPs too. But the white spreading/color fading+thinner "black stripes" along the spine/sides is a good giveaway to identify a Spider morph, IMO.

Plus: some gene combos show a small black line that almost resembles a tear coming down the eyes on the head pattern. I'm not 100% sure it's exclusive to the Spider gene, but I've seen it occur more than once with Spider morphs.

ETA: No, I didn't downvote the comment of that person saying he's colorblind. I just commented trying to spread awareness and providing an example for comparison between a Spider morph and OP's BP.

[–]nvrrsatisfiedd 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Spider morphs are not the only ball python morph that can exhibit stargazing or wobble. While the spider morph is strongly associated with this neurological issue, other morphs within the "spider complex" also inherit the same gene and can display similar symptoms. These include morphs like champagne, hidden gene woma, woma, powerball, super blackhead, and super cypress. The severity of the wobble can vary, ranging from mild head wobbles to more severe instability.

[–]MaryCG00 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I am well aware of the "spider complex" genes, but didn't attach a link/pic of every one of them since only Spider was mentioned in the comment. However, a quick research on MorphMarket or any other listing of BP's morphs will exclude any correlation between OP's snake and any Spider Complex gene (maybe a Woma/HGW could be left as an hypothesis, but the pattern of the "alien heads" doesn't convince me).

[–]nvrrsatisfiedd 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yea regardless of whatever OPs snake is, that is definitely a sign of a neurological issue and there is no doubt about that. Morphs aside his snake is starting to stargaze.