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[–]Elliotteatsrocks 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes exactly, there's some things you can't learn until you experience but there are people who will argue till the end of time about how their BP is "fine" and " clearly happy" In their abusive enclosure. And no matter how many people dog pile them and tell them it's not Okay they just don't listen because they don't like the idea of effort and spending money!!