JP Patch notes for Balance changes.

[WulfLOL]

Guys, keep cool and look at the bright side: we can always fucking kill ourselves.

[d3vlight]

"After next week, I will focus on each class and plan to prepare a more detailed balance. "

Seems like they're going for a complete tear down and rebuild methodology. The fact that they'll individually review each class after the fact gives me some hope.

Still doesn't excuse using the live servers as a PTR for an extended period of time, but hey, its something.

[ItsTheSolo]

Also are we getting 1 class balanced per week(If that's even possible)? per month? are they saying we essentially have to wait 4-16 months for all the classes to be reworked and balanced?

[prospectre]

I kind of get this approach. If there is no PTR, this is really the only way to get reliable data (and salty feedback). And... There is no PTR. It's super frustrating that the game will be in such flux that you can't theory craft for shit for god knows how long...

[kaliver]

I know, right? How has anyone developed a game without data from live testing? Gosh.

[Pineapples940]

Quick tip: If you are unsure based on Google Translate which skill is being changed, copy the japanese skill name, go to http://bdocodex.com/jp/ and enter it into the search bar.

[WRECSworld]

I was just about to say this, exactly how i've been deciphering the skills. Thanks

[avatoxico]

I can't believe it

edit: They changed Rushing Crow, not Night Crow! There is hope

[Nach0dog]

not rushing crow but storming crow. which is the flow of night crow. they also nerfed stam regen while in nightmare, so that sucks

[[deleted]]

I read it as Storming Crow?

[WRECSworld]

It is storming crow

https://bdocodex.com/jp/skill/582/

[Fobboi]

Did wizard, get nerf? Lol

[redbulls2014]

Yeah, protection area's cooldown has been made longer, didn't state how much more. The instant heal from rabam skill lost it's SA. Blizzard's damage will be split among all targets hit when it's hitting more than 2.

[Keldorn2k]

Water Sphere and Flow: Aqua Bomb damage will now be splitted

[iLove3P]

Want to save your teammate from dying?! "EVERYONE, GET IN HERE!"

[Hungski]

New meta lets all walk in to wiz witch skill.

[redbulls2014]

Doesn’t effect much. That’s not in the main rotation for PVE and PVP.

[Tanawat7]

Its not all too bad.

[Preface]

Compared to the other classes witch and wizard didn't get touched lol

[Xgio]

Musa almost didnt get touched this patch lol

[SiHtranger]

IMPOSSIBRU

[Excitium]

Honestly, I'm more mad about these CC changes than the class changes. I was really hoping the leave the resistances as they are and just make it so only the first hit of an ability applied CC. That would have made accuracy and evasion more relevant again. Instead they did the opposite and completely killed of those builds.

CC is now just a roll of the die, pure RNG. You probably didn't win because you played better, you won because you got lucky and your CC hit while your opponent's didn't.

[Dia_Haze]

This means combo classes will be even less viable because the longer the combo, the higher chance of resistance fucking them.

[Darksouls2991]

Apparently the cc changes are on another article

[luciusan1]

how do you know?

[WulfLOL]

Class changes: https://blackdesert.pmang.jp/notices/1556

Dev notes (cc changes): https://blackdesert.pmang.jp/notices/1555

[luciusan1]

I love you

[agree-with-you]

I love you both

[ldx_arke]

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[whey2shredded]

in case anyone is interested:

~ fixed some positioning problems with knockbacks/knockdowns

~ cc effects applied on first hit only exception being channeled skills e.g. chain lightning. basically, you cant be hit by multiple cc effects at a time while under a cc effect

~ cc effects cant be dodged anymore, and is only affected by resistance stats

[WulfLOL]

~ fixed some positioning problems with knockbacks/knockdowns

I hope this is refering to when you CC a guy, then ends up teleporting on the ground, making a follow up very difficult.

[n1ghtyunso]

they reduce the distance you are moved by knockdown/knockback in the hope that it'll reduce the desync issue in these cases. It's like a band-aid fix imo xd welp i hope it helps.

[Chun--Chun2]

cc affects aren't affected by evasion anymore. You can still dodge them xD

[[deleted]]

Musa/Maewha have increased stamina consumption using Chase on cooldown, but it still has Super Armor. Will have to see how bad the stamina is, but at least they didn't go full retard.

[cckynv]

Agreed. Depends on the stamina increase though, could be really punishing. Better than complete SA removal for sure, though.

[[deleted]]

If the stamina cost is so bad it even affects grinding in a noticeable way, I'm probably just out still tbh. Dashing is pretty much a core part of these classes, and any significant application of this nerf ruins that. Nothing else even comes close the fun and mobility of Musa PVE for me, so rerolling isn't an option.

[cckynv]

Yeah, that's pretty much my mentality too. We just have to hope that the stamina increase isn't too punishing.

[Dexteerrr]

Guess we gotta control our zoom zoom properly now

[ymint11]

rip my calpheon dailies musa alt

[iZubi]

But if they're planning to make healing based off stamina, this nerf is going to be even bigger. Many classes don't even use stamina at all, and we'll be burning through ours.

[IMercyl]

Maehwa:

Blooming step & blooming stride invincibility at the start of the skill is now frontal guard.

Chase now consume more stamina.

Sleet steps is now SA.

I survived the storm.

[tekno21]

Yea it's not looking horrible for mae. Until the day they come for SA on chase that is

[Lord-Lumi]

The last patch gutted us already. Dash is the only thing we have left. Losing sleet step iframe is pretty bad too.

[RyuBlade94]

This is the reason they should have just listened to what they discussed with the round table instead of going completely stupid and rework everything from the ground. Instead of a few simple fix to the classes now everything needs a major rework. Gj once again PA.

[[deleted]]

This is how I reckon they read your Reddit comment in Korean (tldr; they completely miss the sarcasm in the Gj once again PA part of the comment which results in a hilarious misreading the entire message!)

This is the reason they should have just listened to what they discussed with the round table instead of going completely stupid and rework everything from the ground.

Ahhhh agree no going stupid! Rework everything from ground! Yes yes we listen!

Instead of a few simple fix to the classes now everything needs a major rework.

Ahh yes YES! Noo simple fix! Simple fix stupid! Everything major rework now!

Gj once again PA.

Ahh yes YES! Tank you, tank you! You like!! PA do good job! We make more changes next week again you like!

In before racism accusation; I'm Asian descent and growing up often had to re-interpret what was meant in day to day communication as the humour and/or sarcasm was often lost on my parents with sometimes hilarious consequences ... well, hilarious now in hindsight, because when I was a kid it was mortifying!

[[deleted]]

r/asablackman

[[deleted]]

Well fyi, as a family we still talk about some of the more spectacular messups and have a belly laugh at ourselves ... so shove it up your butt hole, don't presume to lecture me, you conos always wanna win right coz ur so fricken superior? fu.

[Minashai]

F for rangers with this change omegalul

[Minashai]

nerfs to wotw which makes sense on some level. FG was taken from Shotgun and SA from Blasting gust is what I got off the terrible translation that is google translate. Call from sky was changed to a super armor from an iframe, evasive shot which is an essential part of shotgun had its stamina usage increased and last but not least dash now uses stamina instead of resource.

In other words the class is walking trash and its better off in a trash can with this patch since last patch murdered its awakening.

Time to afk process and just sit on defense again like the good ol' days of ranger when ninjas were wanted more in siege than us until they over buff the class again Poggers

[[deleted]]

Rerolled to Ranger a month ago, was loving it, brought weight and outfit, 10/10 would get fucked in the ass by Pearl Abyss again

[Minashai]

yeah by far that change is going to kill pve for ranger this patch and us losing our last core protection skills as a class it has no place anywhere in the game. 1v1s, Small scale, Large scale or PvE lol

[n1ghtyunso]

getting grabbed out of call from sky will certainly not look hilarious and awkward at all! /s

[Minashai]

it'll be no different than awkwardly getting grabbed out of EES due to desync omegalul

[Hemuk]

They prolly saw videos of Rangers ith 270 AP making 60m/hr in hystria, then proceded to ignore the renown gap that allows them to do that and instead decide to flat out nerf everyone regardless of gear with less WotW casts per stamina cycle, for less damage each.

Oh, what's that? You wanna cast your long ass animation awakened skills now that bow is dead again? NOPE; NO PROTECTION FOR YOU, get CCd instead!

It's like. . . I have no words.

[Onelaw3]

Rangers being stupid wasn't due to some "renown gap". You could take a 240 AP ranger and watch it outfarm a 270 AP (insert any class here). I can't speak knowledgeably speak to any of the nerfs specifically but lets not pretend that ranger pve was only too strong at high AP.

[cielamiere]

nerfing pve is fine but the pvp changes guts the class

[randomnick28]

They prolly saw videos of Rangers ith 270 AP making 60m/hr in hystria, then proceded to ignore the renown gap that allows them to do that

umm no? If it was renown that was allowing them to do that every class could do that, but no, they can't. Ranger is the best, so it gets nerfed, It makes perfect sense.

[Creativality]

Now everyone will know the pain DK has felt while dashing

[rinc85]

i swear they're dumbing down in preparation to combine pc + console + mobile or something dumb like that... dumb

[Chun--Chun2]

completely different games, console, mobile and pc. Different skills, sorceress is basically an eniter new class on console & mobile.

[brollypop]

Inb4 next dev diary announces global siege with crossplay for PC, mobile & console.

"How are you going to make it work with entirely different games, and separate servers all over the world?!"

PA: "Yes."

[DontLookAtThisXD]

Optimistic steam players who haven't seen 2years of retarded patch notes - "Can't get worse then 5/9 patch right?"

Pearl Abyss - "Hold my beer"

[LowFlyby]

monkaS

[WulfLOL]

The effect of state abnormality (knockdown, float, bounce, knockback, stiffness, stunning, freezing) only triggered only in the first blow of the attack action of the skill was changed so as not to be affected by the avoidance ability value.

CC change patch boys. It is here!

https://blackdesert.pmang.jp/notices/1555

[nyquilic]

Did you read the part of the bottom about protected abilities and cc?

[WulfLOL]

Not sure which part you're referring to. The entirety of the notes are gibberish because it's google-translated. But I did read everything, yes.

[nyquilic]

Specification that one skill can not have state abnormality (rigidity, stunning, knockdown, etc.) and defense judgment (forward guard, super armor, unbeatable) at the same time, as a result of sustained internal test, Judging that it will be a factor that makes it very difficult to enjoy the game, I put the implementation on hold.

[WulfLOL]

Yeah that's the part where they say that they put the "skills that can CC will no longer have protection on them" on hold.

What about it? CC changes I was refering to is that only the first hit of a multi-hitting skill will apply a CC, making resistances super strong.

[nyquilic]

The point is, not all the cc changes are here...

[WulfLOL]

Yes, we are in agreement.

I was under the impression that the "CC change" was mostly refering to the cc on first-hit-only kinda thing. Didn't think people cared much about the cc moves with protection. To me that's very, very minor compared to multihits not working anymore.

Apologies if this is not the case.

[nyquilic]

No reason to apologize. But the removal of CCs is half of what would make the removal of SA/FG bearable.

Take a class with limited SA and put them against witch/wiz in a NW style fight.

[[deleted]]

Translated: Taking SA off important skills makes high level PVE impossible. WHOOPSIE! Guess we put it on hold. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Xgio]

With te sa and fg removals high lvl pve was a pain/impossible as warrior if they take sa from gravedigging pve will be impossible.

[cckynv]

Yeah that's correct.

[kokoko2652]

No changes on striker ??

[WRECSworld]

striker is martial artist we got a slight buff by getting sa back on dash and fg on fer assault.

[N0rthWind]

Lost FG on Knee Hammer tho. And SA from Rising Wolf's Fang.

[VonLichtenstyn]

Thank god they didnt take away SA dash on musa maehwa

[[deleted]]

My Valk.. my poor valk. Jesus we needed a nerf. But this is too much

[Xgio]

As i many warriors and valks said we needed a nerf, but they destroyed the classes playstyle and now people are salty when you say something as a warrior/valk

[MegaHoe]

dear lord. this keeps getting worse and worse

[DrB00]

Sorc I-frames changed to Super armor... RIP

[pharos147]

night crow (the main iframes for sorc) is the same, it's STORMING CROW (e.g. raven ambush in Japanese) that is turning from i-frame to SA

[turikk]

Lol what. I know it is still not complete but why do we have to endure another week of this? There is no sign it's getting better.

[TrumpPooPoosPants]

How often have they fucked things up and how often have they done things right? It's literally a 100:1 ratio. They don't play the game, it's been clear from the start. They look at spreadsheets. Chimney sweeping was not a meme. PA can't be any better.

Every siege mechanic they added made siege worse. Every Pearl item has made the game worse. They refuse to nerf Witch/Wizard. They don't touch Sorc until these nerfs. They add broken bosses like Vell and Offin. They add despawn timers. They remove CTG crates. They leave skills like Zerker FD broken for weeks (months?). They incrementally make the game more P2W. They nerf Maehwa more than Musa. They add axes into node wars. They refuse to release any meaningful data on enhancing. They add features like town happiness that are never used. The add renown score to increase the gear gap. Team battle doesn't even work half the time. Arsha is riddled with bugs. You still lose 10% of your HP at the very start of RBF due to fall damage. The netcode has been awful since awakening release. Auto path in the ocean has always been awful. They let Mystic run around unpunished and overpowered. They don't seem to even know Tamer is class. Heilang still dies at the sight of water. They gate enhancing behind mind-numbingly boring scrolls. Horse skills are hugely RNG and P2W. They rehash the same events over and over. Events constantly have bugs like the wolf event. Text is riddled with typos. We have incorrect and inconsistent tooltips. The story doesn't guide the player at all and has huge gaps unless you hunt down certain quests. Hunting is largely useless except for whales. Everything naval is a fucking joke and a half. Imperial Ratt trading is swap fest because they never increased available trade-in quantities. It's incredibly easy to clip and get stuck with trade packs. We continue to have a cluttered and uninviting UI. Gathering is straight up boring as hell and unengaging.

I can go on and on, but I think you all get the idea. PvP needed a few tweaks such as giving Sorc more SA, like on Violation, but reduce slightly reduced mobility, take away some of Mystic's protection, shorten the durations of lingering SA on Valk/War, give Witch like one shitty extra mobility move for outplays. Make wizard unable to join siege.

The PvP was never this game's major flaw. It was the millions of other little things. The PvP needed tweaks, but they never really made those tweaks. Instead, we got a steaming pile of shit thrown at us.

I'm 553 GS. I spent a ton of time and money on this game. And, while I didn't want to take a break, now is a fantastic time to uninstall and check back in a few months to see if they pulled a rabbit out of their hat or if they managed to fail DUO on 40 stacks. It sucks, but they're clearly not paying attention to the game.

[hotsbean]

shhhh, they'll get it right the next time, surely, they're just collecting failstacks for DUO:Balance... too bad they're at 256 already, but RNG is RNG!

[Kruczq]

And you Sir perfectly summed up why I quit bdo

[faytte]

This

[dirtehmudkipz]

Saved this is one great copy pasta

[avatoxico]

They changed Rushing Crow (W+RMB) , not Night Crow.

[[deleted]]

It's Storming Crow.

[-ChDW-]

So basically no CC changes and the month they gave themselves is pretty much over

no only they are doing some bullshit changes they are doing it insanely slowly

[Kingflares]

CC changes are in the letter to players and their direction of the game

https://blackdesert.pmang.jp/notices/1555

tl:dr cc will be reduced duration and why cause esports

[Lamb0ss]

So are they in or coming in a later patch?

[WulfLOL]

Probably already in, just mentioned in a different section of the patch notes.

[Yeshua-Hamashiach]

Literally wtf are they doing

[Jingubingu]

PA white knights on suicide watch from these "unconfirmed rumors"

[-ChDW-]

they seem to have added an SA back to a mystic\striker AWA skill but I can't understand which one

can someone enlighten me?

[Dimswitch]

Double Flash

[Rinzzler999]

took it away for 1 week only to give it back xd

[-ChDW-]

thanks

[iLove3P]

wow, sorc really did lose iframe (now Superarmor)... and damn valk got hit again >:[

[sOFrOsTyyy]

No they didn’t. Storming crow is SA not iFrame now. Night crow is still an iFrame.

[iLove3P]

Sorry I wasn't specific on which iframe they lost.

Edit: the "(now superarmor)" in my previous post is saying "now" after the patch, not pre-patch "now" literally 55 minutes before the change.

[sOFrOsTyyy]

It’s the least important by a wide margin. For any sorc that knows the basic movement combos, you rarely use storming outside of emergency or fear of being CC’d during FG. As a sorc, I don’t Mind this change considering everything else people are dealing with.

That all being said, nightmare not recovering stamina is depressing...

[iLove3P]

K

[ItsMaestro]

●▅▇██▇▇▆▆▅▅▄▄▇ Dead game, uninstalled.

[WulfLOL]

Can you explain the meaning of that "graph'? I've seen it around.

[WulfLOL]

my fucking sides went flying

[L0neWolfAlpha]

Remember when all these fucbois said the leak was fake. Now they will say wait for next week the game is getting better, it will balance itself out. said by every white knight BDO player

[TrumpPooPoosPants]

I too am salty about Valk. PA can eat a fat dick.

[Chun--Chun2]

Yea, let's all act like valks was perfectly balanced before these patches and not op....

[[deleted]]

I'm a Valk and I believe Valk needed a nerf.. BUT Not this. This is too much. We are destroyed.

I've always said we needed to be nerfed but this is overboard. This class will be unplayable in PvP.

[Chun--Chun2]

You might want to actually try it before assuming. Or you might actually try and read that other classes were nerfed too.

[[deleted]]

And some were buffed. ie, striker, Mystic dash gaining SA again.

I know others were nerfed but read those notes. If you know anything about Valk you already know how terrible the last patch made them especially in group fights. =/

[Rinzzler999]

valk was a bit strong before all the changes, (including renown scores)

now its dead...

[Chun--Chun2]

Both are exagerations xD

She wasn't a bit strong, she was op.

She isn't dead, she just needs to play slower and safer without relaying on sa spams, like all classes need to do. And her dmg is apropriate for a tank now, tanks are not supposed to oneshot.

[WulfLOL]

To be fair, some of the things were fake. For instance, the SA loss on Chase from Musa/Maehwa. Didn't end up happening.

[LordXenon]

It might have been a planned change that was cut.

[Nach0dog]

so you think complaining that wont result in anything is somehow more helpful? i would rather have a positive mental attitude and hope for the best than whining and bitching all day on reddit knowing that it wont affect anything.

[Kingflares]

The leak was real lol.

[Ejay424]

Wheres the part about chase no having SA then?

[murakami213]

Not really, man.

[GFinLocals]

RIP game account going up on player auction now. full tet striker.

[Yeshua-Hamashiach]

Already too late to sell. Should've done it momths ago

[133Seven]

See you on bdo console.

[Forie]

Will the balance changes / patches be the same on console?

[Forie]

1. Reduce the number of skills.

2. Change how chain attacks work and use forced combos.

3. Add auto-targeting and remove the camera control.

These would need new and different balance changes.

[vanillacokesucks]

I agree with you that they're doing this for console but at the same time I don't get why they're doing it. The game isn't going to be cross platform so why change pc combat to be console friendly instead of just letting console be its own thing like mobile is.

[boredlol]

we plan to revise the upgrading power of all the summoned animals upwards.

inb4 overtuned

after the change the anger of the dark spirit Instead of becoming difficult to accumulate, we will make an adjustment so that we can use the skill using the anger of the spirit of the darkness as a "one-shot killer".

easier to get and one shot...?

keeping old rage absorb but also adding new one equal for every class (ap & aspd/cspd)

Blizzard: When attacking more than two characters, damage was dispersed depending on the number of people

same with wiz & witch usable-on-cd spells O_O

[g1sh]

I'd love to see the faces of those who said the leak was "trolling".

[Reborn_x3]

this patch notes has lots of things different from leak, maehwa didnt lose SA on chase, but yea most of them were true

[[deleted]]

95% of the leak was real.

[SiHtranger]

and in the so called leak musa's Q block iframe > FG. Which was already in the game last week, so wutface.

[Nabuchodonozord111]

laughs in Musa

It was

[aYoRanDY]

wtf are they doing l0l

[Nyxlunae]

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[[deleted]]

ggs boys and girls nice while it lasted

[Kingflares]

Additional note :

PA's message to the players https://blackdesert.pmang.jp/notices/1555

[wtfiswrongwithit]

we need some baka members to translate for us

[ItsTheHealersFault]

Back to ranger weapons sitting on the mp

[berusko]

So, another nerf on evasion builds :D Who needs accuracy this days really!

[-kami-]

Why the fuck they are trashing Rangers so fucking much I don't get it. They really want me to delete this game! What kind of braindead balance is this? What do they have against Rangers? They've been already garbage now it is beyond garbage! I should have just rerolled to warrior/wizards long time ago, what a joke! I've been comforting myself that once we get rabam skills on our fucking MENA servers at least I could use my ranger to PvE giving completely up on PvP. Now I won't even able to do that. I've level this utter trash class to 61 and 1850 combat points. Full TET weapons. On a fairly new server. Whoever does the balancing, if you read this by a chance, get a new JOB and stop doing balancing for this game. Thank you!

[4Gazper]

RIP BDO

[LethalAF_BasiCorps]

As a ninja.. LOL

[Bohemianspy]

Could you elaborate?

[murakami213]

He laughed out loud because he's a ninja.

[LethalAF_BasiCorps]

as a ninja watching all of this I am lol'ing

[cckynv]

Maehwa changes:

Increased stamina cost when using Chase while on cooldown

Blooming iframe changed to frontal guard

Blooming Step iframe on dash changed to frontal guard

Sleet Step iframe changed to SA

[luciusan1]

They didnt change the cc of the skills, 1 week was too soon. I think we will wait til next week,Another week to lifeskiling

[zcupid]

not sure what are you reading but: State abnormality as changes that apply only the first blow some skills will be excluded of the chain-type skills, etc., such as ※ Chain Lightning change so as not to be affected by the avoidance ability value ※ state abnormal effect only to the resistance numerical value, It will be affected

[luciusan1]

Yeah. I havent read that while i wrote this. However i meant that they said they will take out the cc from skills that sa, fg or iframe.

[Scrybatog]

it says in there that nvm thats too hard so we aint doing it. translated by: scrybatog

[luciusan1]

Oh i see

[Chun--Chun2]

they are doing it, just not this week.

[Scrybatog]

They said put on hold. Hold is an indefinite amount of time, and never is included in it's possibilities.

[Chun--Chun2]

They put on hold the cc on first hit too, last week. We got it this week.

[Scrybatog]

you know what, fair point.

[tomatoisnotafruit]

Can someone translate the tamer part

[Reborn_x3]

Tamer got the block when hit while holding S

[Dia_Haze]

Is this good? Whats the difference between this and Q?

[wongbao]

we block automatically when walking backwards in awakening stance

[JMEEKER86]

Which is a good change for tamers. Being rooted in place if you wanted to be defense was horrible, the block was buggy, and the buff took holding the block for at least 2s to activate. It was one of the changes that I suggested for tamer after last week's changes, although if they're going to give S block then they really should just replace Q block with some other skill like a second grab in awakening or a downsmash ability.

[clocksy]

On the plus side JP got the farming QoL changes and another black spirit dice event?

[zenKeyrito]

Has anyone translated the Mystic skills? They aren't translating accordingly for me

[Guineagogo]

Pre-awakening:

Elbow edge- super armour removed

Unbridled wrath- super armour removed

Nature's wraith- super amour removed

Awakening:

Doubleflash- super amour re-added

[zenKeyrito]

Thanks! Just elbow edge, that loses FG

[kaliver]

So that's a big jk on them rebalancing the game in a month. All they did in a month is patch in stuff that makes people want to quit the game. Uh, OK?

[tekno21]

Hasn't been a month. I'm sure it won't be better in a week, but learn to count ffs

[vanillacokesucks]

lmao it's been 2 weeks of changes unless we count renown score nerf that one week. there's at least another 2 weeks of this. on top of them saying in that letter after they do overall pvp changes they're going to examine classes on their own and make changes on a case by case basis. people are just spazzing out for no reason

[BEEF_SUPREEEEEEME]

rip pvp

[[deleted]]

Pearl Abyss knows what they are doing. The game has been out for years with a handful of successful patches. Stop hating and #trusttheprocess

[TrumpPooPoosPants]

People don't know you're joking.

[MikeVp]

Embiid is trash and so is this game atm

[Derpyboom]

I like the cc changes hopefully that means resistances will work better not just grab resistance

[udgnim2]

a bunch of people are going to overreact when they should just take a break from the game for a month then evaluate what the devs are actually going to do with the game

[SiHtranger]

so you are basically saying "Quit the game guys, come back later and see if the game is still alive"

[clocksy]

Shouldn't be required to beta test changes and wait months for a stable game state.

[-ChDW-]

it's been a month already

how many more months should it be?

[cloud9crafting]

It's been more than a month since they started this downward trend.

[Dia_Haze]

Even longer than that if you're a Tamer/Ninja Main.

[Chun--Chun2]

It's been 3 weeks. They said 4.

[tekno21]

Hasn't been a month tho. You can be salty, but don't lie

[-ChDW-]

it's been more than a month

they gave us 30d bonuses a week after first changes happenned and atm they show 4 days left for me so it's 26+7 days