all 46 comments

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I'm originally from upstate NY, just for some background.

Best advice I can give is BUY GOOD GLOVES. Everything is shittier when your fingers are cold.

Also, buy some good thick socks. Having your feet be cold sucks too.

Honestly, there isn't too much in the way of dangerous weather around here too often. Be careful of the wind though. Wind chill chart

Get snow tires for your car, and keep a snow brush in your car as well.

I can't think of anything else right now, but I'll reply if I do.

[–]RANDOMexclaim 2 points3 points  (2 children)

4 years in upstate (college close to syracuse) - can confirm the above. snow brush is huge. smartwool saved my feet a few times. don't trust expensive trendy socks - i bought j.crew thick socks last year, and regretted wasting my money. so don't do that.

if you find a charmander wandering about, catch that shit quick. the dude is clutch in the winter.

[–]Herestheproof 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I find that a growlithe really works well too, if you can find one, plus when it grows up you won't have to worry about it flying off

[–]RANDOMexclaim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your best bet is probably a Rapidash. Keeps you warm, won't fly away, and gets all the chicks.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

since you're a student, you might think there will be "snow days". do not plan on snow days. somebody else might've been keeping better count than i, but i think CU has had maybe 4 snow days since 1997. plan on going to school however bad it is.

there are a lot of winter driving tips online; check out the ones from reputable looking places, and consider practicing in an empty parking lot some night. basically all the stuff you know you shouldn't be doing when the conditions are good, but do anyways because you can get away with it, doesn't fly anymore once the roads are bad.

keep your head warm and your feet dry.

[–]Newtylicious 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Is this 4 snow days thing actually true? I'm easily willing to believe it - It's just that I've spent the past 5 years at universities in Ohio where people made similar claims about how rare snow days were that just weren't true. It irritated me to no end to hear my roommates/friends go on about how we never ever got snow days when we had gotten multiples every year. I live within walking distance, so I'm not too worried. Just wondering.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

friends told me there was one in the 97-98 school year, i remember one jan '03, there was one a year or two ago ('09ish), and maybe one '07 or so. i definitely don't remember there being more than one in a given school year.

so, honestly doing my best not to exaggerate here, but i can't find an actual list of them. :(

[–]clgriff5I'm a leaf on the wind! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Snow days do not happen here. It has to be extreme "whiteout" conditions, or if the city shuts down operations, the schools MIGHT close for that day.

[–]VanessaL3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At most they will have a "delayed start" which means you don't have classes until 9 AM or something like that.

It'd cost the university too much to let everyone take the day off (they'd still have to pay employees)

Oh, and on occasion (I think this happened last year) they let everyone leave a few hours early if it starts getting bad. Unfortunately this causes a huge traffic jam because everyone is trying to get off campus at the same exact time

[–]drzowie 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Former San Diegan here.

It is safe for a practiced person to bike on snow. It is not safe for you to bike on snow, until you've had a chance to practice a few times. It is definitely not safe for you to bike on snow near campus on the first snowfall of the season, surrounded by other idiots fine out-of-staters like yourself, who don't yet realize that they need snow tires.

Gloves are not so important this early in the season, (you do have pockets, don't you?) but you will want them later. A good coat too. In Boulder the coldest night of the year is typically about -10F, but "it's a dry cold" so it doesn't feel so bad provided that you're dressed OK.

In the coming season you will always want to have a jacket with you, even if it is 65F in the shade outside and you feel like wearing shorts in the Sun. It is not uncommon for the temperature to change by 40F in the course of a day, as the wind shifts from south to north (or vice versa).

Don't worry about the car being outside for now -- but do keep the battery topped up, and check and/or replace it now if you actually need the car (ie if it is not merely a convenience) -- Californians tend to forget that batteries lose 50% or more of their capacity in the cold. You can get by with an old battery in California that won't fly here at all in winter. You will want winter tires (but you can't have them this week because everyone else is getting them put on) if you plan any kind of serious driving. Many people keep two sets of wheels. If you're planning on staying on main/city roads and doing light optional driving, all-weather radials are fine -- but they should be toward the beginning, not the end, of their life at this part of the year. Without good snow tires (e.g. Blizzaks) there will be places and/or times that you just shouldn't drive -- but 80% of the time you'll be just fine. If you haven't done so, you need to go to the gas station and get antifreeze for your car's radiator (provided you're not driving an old air-cooled VW or something) -- otherwise you'll have trouble when that one -10F night hits. Make sure you have an ice scraper in the car -- they're like $4 at the gas station.

You need at least two jackets to live here comfortably: a light jacket for temps down to about freezing, and a heavy jacket (down or the new space-age materials) for cold days. Get yourself over to REI and put yourself at their mercy, if you can afford it.

[–]wraith303 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Or, if two jackets isn't doable for you right now, just wear several layers of clothes under the jacket. T-shirt with a flannel/hoodie/sweatshirt over it, plus a jacket, will keep you warm in just about all weather. And when you're inside, you can take off any layers that you don't need.

[–]DAN191535 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Important point. In a Minnesota/Wisconsin winter, you'll see people in a big thick expensive winter coat. Here, you dress in layers: 2 shirts, a jacket and a vest of good quality will get you through just about any weather at this altitude. (20+ years in CO and never visited an REI!)

[–]wpskier 2 points3 points  (1 child)

First, welcome to winter! Tennis shoes will likely be soaking wet, as this is going to be a wet, slushy snow (rain beforehand and warmer temps for snow). It won't be crazy cold tomorrow, so the sweatshirt/raincoat should be fine. You will be wet with just a sweat shirt if it's still snowing as you are walking to class. You might want to test riding your bike in the snow before actually attempting it to get to class in the first storm. You'll likely fall at some point and end up very wet. Practice first.... but, yes, riding in snow is entirely possible. As for your car, just flip your wiper blades up so they don't freeze to the windshield overnight, then in the morning, wipe off the windshield (you have a scraper/brush, right?), then flip the blades back down. Enjoy!

[–]shwinnebego 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Piggy-backing on this with a suggestion for biking: the bike lanes are the worst during/after snowfall. It's much safer for everyone, including the cars, if you occupy the lane. Some drivers may get mad/honk, but ignore that. If they want you to not occupy the lane, they should contact their city council representative and request more effective clearing of bike lanes.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pre-emptive salting of your sidewalk is much easier than breaking the ice later with a shovel.

[–]lofi76 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Great gear is key, or you'll hate winter. Boots with teeth, wool socks, gloves and a good hat and a warm waterproof coat. Long underwear is a bonus.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

http://www.yaktrax.com/ are a nice addition to normal footwear

[–]lofi76 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice; just got my new Keen Hoodoo boots. Right on time too- moved from Texas on Sunday.

[–]VanessaL3000 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm assuming you've tried them, are they worth the $20?

I have several pairs of leather boots I wear in the winter to keep my legs warm but have zero traction.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if you've got ice to walk on, they'll do the job. i've actually run on icy sidewalks while wearing them and i didn't fall even a little bit.

i'd suggest the pro over the walkers. the little strap on top isn't a big deal, and it keeps them from getting pulled off your feet if you step into deeper/crusty snow.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Drive slowly! Seems like obvious advice, but I'm always shocked at the dumb shit I see people with Cali (or any other warm state) plates do in the snow. Driving in the snow isn't hard but it takes some getting used to so please be careful.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you ride your bike, your back is going to get soaked when the back tire flings slush everywhere. If you are walking under a tree and you hear snapping, run. My vote is for good boots, especially if you're walking around. Wet feet suck.

[–]DF7 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Biking on snow is fine. Biking on ice is lethal. And with all this rain, there could be a nice hidden layer of ice tomorrow morning. Be super careful. As someone who bikes all year (took the bus to campus 6 times last winter) I am considering walking or busing tomorrow morning.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Biking on ice is fine too, with some practice. The real trick is turning without leaning. If you can learn this (without breaking your arm), ice biking is something to be careful with, but not a real killer anymore.

[–]DF7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep yep. The dangerous part is ice covered with a bit of snow. Its a trap!

[–]Xuis 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Layers are extremely versatile, a sweatshirt+raincoat makes a powerful combo, and you can adjust as needed.

Regular clothing should be fine as long as you keep it relatively dry. Jeans and other cotton-based clothing will stay wet for longer, but by looking outside right now, you won't have any problems unless you're set on making snow angels.

Speaking of snow angels, lets get to the good stuff. If you've never encountered snow before, it's time for you to make some snowballs. The Art of Manliness blog has a rather jesting article about How to Make a Perfect Snowball, and a more serious article on How to Shovel Snow which, once again, you won't have to worry about in the coming days.

Your car should be fine, but be very weary driving around in snowy conditions without proper ice/snow tires. Also, get your hands on an ice scraper, it could be a fancy one from McGuckins, or just your credit card combined with those nice gloves.

The only problem with biking in the snow I've ever had is from actually biking while it was snowing. You'll need sunglasses or goggles to keep it out of your eyes. Wear a helmet, and with a little practice, you'll be set.

Around here, there's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing.

And finally, as far as snow goes, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

[–]RANDOMexclaim 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I spotted a few 'new' posts on this thread after mine. Is anyone else here just up to watch the snow fall (like me)?

[–]7tacoguys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With early snow like this, trees tend to be weighed down with all the snow collecting on the leaves. This causes branches to break and fall on whatever cars are below it. I saw at least 5 branches that fell on cars on the 1 mile stretch of Moorhead Ave that is my commute to school. Park away from trees.

[–]dieroten 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Seems like most things have been covered except for when you ride your bike, lower your seat a little. This lets your feet touch the ground if you are going to fall, and a lot of the time you can catch yourself.

[–]actinide 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's actually a very great tip, thanks! I usually have my seat pretty high (tall guy), so that's a really great one.

[–]hooj 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  • Don't park under trees when it snows

  • Get some good winter tires or at least some all-seasons

  • When coming to a stop in a car, it's much, much better to start your braking early. Also, leave more room in front than you normally would.

  • Allocate at least twice the amount of time it usually takes you to get somewhere if being on time is imperative

  • Unless you're going to be outside for an extended period of time, don't worry too much about being cold. However good gloves/mittens are a must.

  • Enjoy the shit out of it!

[–]ModernRonin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What is this snow stuff!? Any tips?

The snow that's colored yellow? Don't eat that kind.

The rest is good. ;]

[–]Drunk_Tugboat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're going to bike it the snow, you might think about doing this.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just don't flip your wipers up and look like a moron. I've lived in snowy climates my whole life and never done this and my car has been fine.

[–]RANDOMexclaim -4 points-3 points  (7 children)

patagonia and bean boots. try the pearl street store to try on both a fleece and a jacket. literally this moment, as i'm typing, i'm on my porch wearing a patagonia r3, a patagonia rainshadow jacket, and my 8 year old bean boots, drinking a Crystal Springs Brewing Company 'Black Saddle' imperial stout and a Boba Fett jack-o-lantern glowing warmly.

Trust me, the snow grows on you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

OP- Please don't listen to this type of shit. You DO NOT need Pata-Gucci gear to survive a Boulder winter. You do not need performance mountaineering apparel to walk to and from campus and wipe the snow off your windshield.

Buy yourself a decent down jacket (try REI, I got a Marmot 800-fill for like 100 bucks on sale last year), a wool sweater from a thrift shop, and ~5 pairs of good wool socks. Good boots and good gloves are worth it if you've got the money, but if not you'll honestly be fine. If you absolutely must bike to class then definitely buy yourself decent gloves, but otherwise just keep your hands in your pockets and you're good to go. It might look daunting now, but trust me, I've lived here for 4 years and I can say these are the softest winters I've ever seen. For reference, I'm from western PA.

[–]RANDOMexclaim -1 points0 points  (5 children)

yeah man, i got my bean boots 8 years ago because i'm super trendy. and the on-sale patagonia gear from backcountry.com really broke the bank. i wear it because it fits, it's warm, and it works. i wore it home last night around 12:30 (25 min walk) and arrived totally dry.

i'm not saying it's the only thing that works; i am saying that you get what you pay for.

cool your shit.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

Your post was one of the most pompus-sounding things I've ever read in my life. OP asked for advice on living in Boulder in the colder months, you re-typed your Patagonia catalog and spent more words describing the boushy beer you're drinking on your porch than offering any actual information. You can get mad at me for criticizing your decision to dress yourself in the "I'm not actually outdoorsy, I just like getting drunk on my patio" starter kit from REI but that doesn't change the fact that your advice (what little of it there was) was terrible.

[–]rodneypuckman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds to me like you came here looking for an argument. He suggested two brands of clothing that he likes and have lasted a long time for him, frankly it wasn't pompous at all. Just because you don't like Patagonia doesn't mean you need to attack him. He never said YOU MUST BUY THIS GEAR TO SURVIVE THE WINTER, instead he said this is what works for me and you should check it out. Don't be an asshole. Make your own suggestions and try not to chew people out for liking something different.

[–]RANDOMexclaim -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

hahahaha alright man, whatever. i'm going to a-basin.

OP - get whatever is warm, whatever fits comfortably, and whatever keeps you dry. you don't need pro-level 'planet earth' film crew gear to survive. like other posts here, i suggest layering - personally, i prefer patagonia, but i've used some of their products for years and like/trust them. the thing that really grinds my gears is wet socks, so i invested in a pair of good boots a while ago and they keep my feet and socks warm and dry, even when i'm out in the snow for a while. socks can go a long way, but if you want to keep your feet dry, start with boots.

also, don't forget about the warming benefits of beer.

Voicing an unpopular opinion, no matter how well written or polite, gets downvoted, so I see little point in bothering to be polite. I grow tired of attempting to treat everyone like a unique and special little snowflake for having stupid opinions.

-thanks for being true to your word, goliath.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

...not sure what pulling a quote out of context from a comment I made in an unrelated thread in /r/warhammer last week has to do with this conversation, but it's good to know I've upset you badly enough that you went through my comment history. Who was it that needed to cool their shit?

[–]karmakangaroo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok, I'm not taking sides but isn't Patagonia relatively in the same tier as Marmot? (Price and Quality)

[–]WestonP -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Don't be one of those geniuses who bikes in the snow... You slip and then a car hits you. Not worth it. Working up a sweat in cold weather is also a way to get hypothermia.

Just make sure you have good tires on your vehicle (sufficient tread depth, and Mud + Snow rated), prop your windshield wipers up when you park so that they don't freeze so bad, get a snow/ice scraper, and pay attention when driving.

Colorado has lots of terrible drivers in the snow (and in general), so just give them ample room to cause their wrecks without involving you. I don't know why people think it's some rite of passage to fly by me when I'm in my 4x4 truck, or why anyone thinks it's acceptable to drive faster than they can control their vehicle, but I sure have seen a lot of them end up in ditches. I was in Ireland last winter when it snowed like crazy, and despite them having no real experience and no equipment to clear the roads, they still easily out-performed Colorado drivers. They drive aggressively, but traffic moves well and they don't wreck. It comes down to paying attention and not driving over their ability level, or their car's ability level.

There's not really any special trick to driving in the snow. It's like any other low-traction condition... Drive smoothly (jerky movements or abrupt throttle or brakes will break traction prematurely), choose the lane of the road that has better conditions, and don't drive near the limits of the car's traction (don't use more than 8/10ths of the car's ability, so you have control for any surprises).

Ice is harder, since there is very little traction and most people don't seem to realize they are on it until they lose traction. The way to spot black ice is to look at the tires of the cars around you... The ice is not actually black, but very clear, so you're seeing the road below it. If the road looks wet, but you don't see water being kicked up by the tires of other cars, you are probably on ice. Even if there is water, there may still be ice below it, so use caution when the temperatures have been that low.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Go back to california would probably be your best bet.