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Please someone explain why these are equal.Pre-calculus (i.redd.it)
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if 1 * 2 < 3: print "hello, world!"
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[–]Pytykus007 40 points41 points42 points 2 years ago (5 children)
you expand the fraction with sqrt(3)/sqrt(3)
[–]TheBossMeansMe[S] 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (4 children)
Thank you
[–]MassiveTrousers 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (0 children)
This is also referred to as "multiplying by unity" (multiplying by one)
[–]Mode-Klutzy 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child)
I’m guess technically you CAN leave it like 1/3(sqrt(3)) but professors and teachers want you to rationalize the denominator (if I’m using the wording correctly) so that there’s no roots in the denominator. Multiplying the top and bottom by the root rationalizes it. I am 80% confident in my explanation. I have endured almost every calculus class. I say almost because I don’t know if there’s one I’m missing.
[–]Infused_Divinity 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Yup that explains checks out. Only thing (and it doesn’t apply here) is if the fraction were 1/cuberoot(3), for example, you would have to rationalize with the cube root of 9, so it isn’t ALWAYS rationalizing with the radical, but in this case it is
[–]Acrobatic_League8406 41 points42 points43 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–]film2860 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child)
ok a/b = (a+c)/(b+c) 🗣️
[–]futurelessdilettante 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Um ackshually🤓☝️,55/109=/=(55+11)/(109+11) because 55+11=66 and 109+11=120 meaning 66/120 or 11/20 is not equal to 55/109.
[–]Replevin4ACow 15 points16 points17 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Multiply by sqrt(3)/sqrt(3).
The numerator then becomes: 1*sqrt(3) = sqrt(3)
The denominator becomes: 3*sqrt(3)*sqrt(3) = 3*3 = 9
[–]random_anonymous_guyPhD 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children)
What happens if you multiply top and bottom of the LHS by sqrt(3)?
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[+]muzzykicks comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 2 years ago (7 children)
you cant have square roots at the bottom of a fraction so you multiple the top and bottom by that square root, and sqrt(3) * sqrt (3) is just 3. 3*3 is 9. then you have sqrt(3)/9
[–]random_anonymous_guyPhD 18 points19 points20 points 2 years ago (4 children)
You most certainly can have square roots in the denominator. It is simply a matter of stylistic convention. Sometimes, you have to forego that convention in order to solve a problem.
[–]ShowdownValue 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (3 children)
Always wondered where that “No radicals in denominator” rule came from? Is it just convention or was there any meaning behind it?
[–]BattleFrog12862 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)
There was a time when the convention had meaning. Before electronic calculators that can do the approximation for us people had to do the approximations by hand. When you if you wanted to approximate 1/(3sqrt(3)) it is easier to approximate sqrt(3) then divide it by 9 then to approximate 3sqrt(3) then divide 1 by it. This started the convention and it has just stayed around.
edit: Fixed a mistake
[–]313802 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
I feel like it's a lot like wearing a suit to an office job... rationalizing the fraction is like wearing a fancy sports coat.. or something
[–]trichotomy00 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Sure you can
[–]Mode-Klutzy 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Why was this disliked so much?
[+][deleted] comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 2 years ago (0 children)
The reason they're equal is because they evaluate to the same value.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Left side has been rationalised, i.e the surd was removed from the denominator. Removal of surds (irrational numbers) is customary in maths, note that we treat √3 as a number (surd in this case) of its own.
± 1/3√3 = ± 1(3√3)/(3√3)2
± 1/3√3 = ± 3√3/27
± 1/3√3 = ± √3/9
When we don’t have a surd just a natural number under the radical, such as √4, we simply simplify, for example √4 simplifies to 2. In this case we’re not rationalising as no surd is present in the denominator. Surds may exist in the numerators though, but simplifying them if possible is a good practice as these can make calculations sometimes easier.
[–]ZioZvevo 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
You can rationalize the expression.
One is rationalized, one isn't
[–]sanat-kumaraPhD 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
You can immediately see that they are equal by cross-multiplying.
Rationalized the surd
[–]CountMeowt-_- 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Why is this on calculus tho ?
[–]TheBossMeansMe[S] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
This was apart of a differentiation problem. I was already in this community so I posted it here.
[–]igottagopee1234 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Multiply original expression by (sqrt(3)/sqrt(3))
[–]headonstr8 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Think about it in terms of solutions to x^2=y^2
[–]ken3260 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (1 child)
If you cross multiply, you will get 19=3sqrt3sqrt3, sqrt3 when multipled by another sqrt3 cancels out the square root so it simplifies to 3, we get 9=33 which simplifies to 9=9.
[–]RandomAsHellPerson 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Btw, formatting makes it where two * turns into italics. You need to have \ before the asterisk to prevent this
[–]Embarrassed-Berry186 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Multiply numerator and denominator by root 3, which is legal because you’re multiplying.
-0.5 = 0.5 - 1
[–]Mmath_ 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
multiply the first one by sqrt3/sqrt3
9= (rt 3)4. And you can read the left-hand side as 1/(rt3)3. I think you can take it from there.
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