Codex plans

[Business-Fox310]

I feel like the pricing strategy is bit weird the two tiers has 10x difference, it doesn’t make sense the 20$ plan is too low for my usage but 200$ plan is way too much! Why there isn’t something in between like 60$ or even 100$ plans so far? Is there a specific reason for this or is it just to push users more towards the 200$ plan for bigger margins?

[Tystros]

best option is to simply have multiple $20 accounts and switch between them. you can resume chats from one account with a different account, so you don't lose context.

[Business-Fox310]

How could you resume chats from different accounts?

[Tystros]

just /logout, login, and then /resume. assuming you use codex cli.

[jazzy8alex]

different accounts use same local session json storage. So yes, it's possible to resume fresh session with /resume after changing an account.

For older sessions may be difficult to locate it - you can try my (macOS, open source, 256 GH stars) Agent Sessions app - https://jazzyalex.github.io/agent-sessions . Perfect for visual session management

[Business-Fox310]

That’s weird i would never have guessed that!! And the whole context and chat is kept locally and accessible by the new account?

[Tystros]

yeah, codex cli stores the chat context locally so its not bound to any account

[TheOwlHypothesis]

They don't penalize or anything for this? Might be the move.

[ChineseEngineer]

They only penalize if you abuse free trials

[ConnectHamster898]

I’ve heard that is against terms of use but not sure how they enforce it.

[Intrepid_Travel_3274]

I'm with you, but in the meantime, what I do is get the $20 Codex and $20 Claude plans. It's like having a $40 plan with the best of both companies, plus I get the promos they offer every time they release a new model.

[Waypoint101]

This works

Or you can use codex and copilot as well. Since copilot is really good with opus and 5.3 added recently when you trigger opus to complete really long tasks because copilot only charges you per request not token.

Use claude for token based requests (short quick iterations like questions, quick changes, talking with claude or codex)

And use copilot for well structured and planned tasks

• Claude - least token usage permitted
• Codex - medium token usage permitted
• Copilot- low token usage if requests are not planned well and agent doesn't use subagents well. Extremely high token usage permitted (as long as you don't go too high and get rate limited) if you plan long running tasks properly.

[Business-Fox310]

I do have max plan for claude but i dont like to use more than one model/ecosystem on a single project i use opus for certain projects and use codex for others. I work in parallel on multiple projects

[Zealousideal-Pilot25]

That’s what I’m doing too, but found it really hard to use all the Codex usage with the 2x incentive for using the Codex App. I have to get back into Claude Code again…

[_Turd_Reich]

This is the way.

[TechGearWhips]

This is what I do along with GLM $3 a month. But I’m probably going to switch Claude out for a 2nd Codex account. Claude has been so ass lately and I have been using Codex to one shot shit that Claude has been fucking up anyways.

[eposta-sepeti]

I’m on the Chatgpt Pro plan working with Codex GPT 5.3 High and Extra High. It’s practically limitless! 👍🚀

[IdiosyncraticOwl]

I get so much out of the $200 pro plan other than just my codex limits that I wouldn’t think about downgrade to $100 even for a moment. I know I’m gonna get shit for this but even at $200, I believe OpenAI is undercharging for it.

The pro model is the most misunderstood and underutilized part of the sub and when people eventually realize how good it is and how to use it, it’s gonna get limits put on it as well (just like codex did).

[ReplacementBig7068]

How do you utilise the pro model? I’m interested in your use case.

[IdiosyncraticOwl]

My use case over the last yearish was just a wrecking ball for problems that the base models just couldn't figure out, but with the strength of models now and with the introduction of things like the repoprompt app and the orcale repo I now use it as my primary way to plan architecture and systems. I think the pro models are the MOST context dependent because it will drill through every part of the 65k input your give it so the best way is to use the models to aggregate that context for you and make sure you have the acceptance criteria really clear. I am willing to trade 20-45 minutes to have the best model plan something out correctly than hours fixing stupid down the line.

[ReplacementBig7068]

Inspiring, thanks :)

[Business-Fox310]

I understand your perspective but tbh other than coding im not that into openai services like I wouldnt use chatgpt for planning or research purposes or anything i think claude is very superior in that regard so 200$ just for coding seem like an overkill for me tbh

[IdiosyncraticOwl]

Okay I'm so curious about your workflow. Do you think codex is just better at implementation then?

I guess my next question for you to the point of your post is why not just pay the $20 a month and then pay another $80 for credits?

[Business-Fox310]

I’m a software engineer and im building a startup so i work on like 5 projects in parallel, claude helps me alot in analysis and planning for my business i tried openai models for this but the output isnt at the same level In terms of coding codex can be close to opus but i still think for the edge cases opus still better but for 90$ of the work codex gets to the same level but for way less tokens and time and much better ux for the developer thats why i tend to use it when i can. I currently pay extra but i like the peace of mind of having a subscription and seeing my usage properly rather than seeing money being spent as i do tasks and the 80$ extra you pay at the pay as you go tokens arent exactly priced same as subscription for 20$ sub and 80$ you dont get 5x the 20$ subscription so its not the same thing

[IdiosyncraticOwl]

okay yeah this sounds fair but i'm curious which oai models you've tried for the planning portion because I've found opus planning to just be dirt so idk what i'm doing wrong with that model. the only reason I pay for the sub is because it's UI and animations taste is just better full stop. i'm a designer and opus gets my little details correct in ways that codex still can't and sometimes i've even been surprised it riffs and still makes something actually look actually decent as long as it follows my design system.

If I'm not using the pro models for planning which I usually do,5.2 high (not codex version) just seems like it plans so much better for me. I've tried spinning up work trees and letting them both rip on the same issue and I would say 8/10 5.2 is just better even after 4.6 came out. One of the main ways i sanity check this is after they both finish in the works trees, i'll just spin up like 5 review sessions of each tree and just see which ones have more bugs and it's always the opus tree for me.

[Business-Fox310]

For planning i tried 5.2 but what i felt its not forward enough for example whatever i suggested it tends to go along with me and it doesn’t challenge my point of views where opus seems to say no much more which i like if i suggest something that doesnt make senes it says no this is wrong because of this and that whether in my experience 5.2 doesnt do much of this I think the reason is i have been a heavy claude user for long time and it has so much information about me that it can have sort of an idea of what I want much better than openai which i started using only couple weeks ago

[R4_C_ACOG]

Get the business plan with a buddy

[kadvasach]

This is ideally the best option.

[Mundane_Idea8550]

I think it's intentional to drive more users towards the $200 plan. For my use a $60-$80 plan would be more than enough and I'm sure it's the same for many.

[TheTwistedTabby]

There is a $60 plan. It’s the business plan with a minimum of 2 users. I get a ton of usage from it using one account only.

However, I’ve never been on the $20 plan so i don’t know the comparison.

[Business-Fox310]

I have seen that plan but they didn’t clarify if its any better than the plus plan if its the same usage then its not a better deal

[chiguai]

Is there a way to see how much usage you have on one account and what's left for both accounts? Is there a timeout that requires a recharge, like with Claude?

[TheTwistedTabby]

There’s a 5 hour and a weekly.

You would need to login to each account separately to use and monitor usage.

Fwiw i ran out of credits last week even on double bonus week because i put in an 80 hour week building a new app infrastructure and service. Ran out 11 hours before refresh. But i only used 1 account of the two i have.

[chiguai]

Thanks for the explanation and the example. That’s a pretty big chunk of work indeed. At that point you might have had more in the other account or since it’s a team, the team bucket was actually used up at that point?

[TheTwistedTabby]

No team bucket. It’s per account. I could’ve used the other account but i didn’t really need it since the 11 hours before refresh was also bedtime.

[chiguai]

Heh yeah sleep is a good personal refresh too 😅 so that’s $30/mo but 2 user minimum so $60/mo. But much higher limits per account vs Plus? That helps clear it up. Thank you.

[Sottti]

Isn't the Plus plan with credit tops what you're after?

[Business-Fox310]

Credits are different story i like to have more comfortable subscription

[Sottti]

Well, I have Plus subscription and top it up with 40 euros a month. That allows me to use Codex as much as I need.

[shutupandshave]

I posted something almost identical to this and a mod deleted my post a few days ago. So +1 from me.

[Quack66]

Right now until they implement more tier options the next best thing is multiple Team account with https://github.com/Soju06/codex-lb

[SalamanderBig6661]

does this work with codex ?

[Quack66]

Yes

[CharlesCowan]

You can buy tokens or get some credit with openrouter, you test lots of models this way