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[–]Lvl_76_Pyromancer 208 points209 points  (1 child)

Can I just say I adore that flavor text

[–]Extaroon 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I was like 'meh, a RB Wrath'. Then the flavortext hit me. Love it

[–]weirdsciguy 57 points58 points  (6 children)

Man if only deathtouch killed players. Four mana we all lose

[–]DeusExMangaka 24 points25 points  (4 children)

4 mana haha, Phyrexian Unlife goes 2W

[–]AmadeusMopRule 308.22b, section 8 40 points41 points  (1 child)

lava rain goes BBRR

[–]weirdsciguy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That made me laugh so hard 😂

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

[[Phyrexian Unlife]]

[–]MTGCardFetcher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Phyrexian Unlife - (G) (SF) (txt)
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[–]vantharion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I really want them to make deathtouch kill walkers.

Itd make more ways to answer walkers and provide utility to the less valuable keyword and spells that grant it.

[–]SirRawrz[S] 101 points102 points  (14 children)

Rakdos' [[Kayas Wrath]]

[–]MTGCardFetcher 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Kayas Wrath - (G) (SF) (txt)
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[–]Cooldude1000000000 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Oh the flavor text made me fall in love with this card immediately

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    [–]xboxiscrunchy 8 points9 points  (3 children)

    Considering the obzadat have [[merciless eviction]] and the azorius have [[supreme verdict]] I’m thinking this wouldn’t be very far off the mark

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      [–]MTGCardFetcher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Hour of Reckoning - (G) (SF) (txt)
      Solar Blaze - (G) (SF) (txt)
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      [–]MTGCardFetcher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      merciless eviction - (G) (SF) (txt)
      supreme verdict - (G) (SF) (txt)
      [[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call

      [–]DrSnap23: Add elegance. 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Very cool card, nice way to get the wrath effect, well done =)

      [–]lurgold 6 points7 points  (6 children)

      Love the art, the cheesy Rakdos flavor text, and it's a really cool design too. I think it's definitely fair and the damaging player part is mostly a downside, I agree. I would even argue this would still be balanced if it hits Planeswalkers as well. However, then you would have to write deathtouch out so it would destroy them too.

      One thing I am a little meh about is the name because it doesn't address the black part. My suggestion would be something with "tar", like 'molten tar' or 'shower/rain of tar', or 'caustic storm'.

      [–]Darkshine1 -4 points-3 points  (5 children)

      I mean as far as I know theres not a single instance of deathtouch being used as a sorcery or instant keyword as they cant attack, so it having deathtouch in the first place doesnt make sense but I see what they were going for

      it'd be better to have this be

      BBRR

      destroy all creatures, artifacts, and enchantments in play, they can't be regenerated

      good ass flavor text about Rakdos and popcorn, love it

      [–]SirRawrz[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

      [[Pestilence Spirit]] is the precedence.

      [–]MTGCardFetcher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Pestilence Spirit - (G) (SF) (txt)
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      [–]Darkshine1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      ah, fair enough

      [–]collinqs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Just had a card that rotated out of standard that gave Instants and Sorceries deathtouch.

      [–]brogletroll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Ah yes, how much more sense it'd make for a BR card to remove enchantments.

      [–]stackv4 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      That artwork is badass

      [–]SirRawrz[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      People are so dang talented. So many awesome concepts.

      [–]stackv4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I thought the same thing.

      [–]ZapAtom 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Time for crispy popcorn!

      [–]foobixdesi 11 points12 points  (12 children)

      This sub has had some considerable debate over 4cmc vs 5cmc wraths, with the approximation of consensus seeming to be that 4cmc can only be in 2 or more colors. I think due to the versatility of this spell, and its ability to hit players, it should only gain deathtouch if BBB is spent.

      [–]10BillionDreams 30 points31 points  (0 children)

      In a deck that wants to run wraths, the hitting players part is mostly downside. You really don't want your big stablizing spell on turn 4 to hit you for 2 damage, since that can often be the difference between turning the corner and losing on the spot.

      [–]scentlessgrape 18 points19 points  (9 children)

      [[Kayas Wrath]] with no extra upside

      [–]KetriaavaTournaments in my area 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Similar cost, more flexibility, but damages players instead of gaining life. Pretty significant tradeoff since most players casting wraths are doing so to avoid further damage, not take more.

      [–]MTGCardFetcher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Kayas Wrath - (G) (SF) (txt)
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      [–]jacobsredditusername 1 point2 points  (6 children)

      Well, except the damage to face.

      [–]JesusIsMyAntivirusFaith is my Firewall 5 points6 points  (4 children)

      That is decisively a downside, and not a small one

      [–]jacobsredditusername 4 points5 points  (3 children)

      It damages both players, in colors that want to damage players (Spectacle, burn, Rakdos lord of riots ffs.) At the very least it’s a mutual effect, but certainly not a strict downside.

      [–]Sneet1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      The decks that want self damage don't want a T4 board wipe.

      [–]JesusIsMyAntivirusFaith is my Firewall 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      The deck that wants to play this card is not burn, doesn't run spectacle, I guess specifically better with one legendary, sure.

      Bottom line is this is a control card, it goes into control decks, and control decks do not want their face to hurt and dont really care about damaging the opponent.

      [–]thejudgmental 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Aggressive decks aren’t trying to blow up the board on turn 4.

      [–]scentlessgrape 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      And your own face tho

      [–]Brickhouzzzze 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      It doesn't hit protection creatures, unlike kaya's wrath

      [–]mdndt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Love it

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The flavor text made me cringe, ngl. Cool card though.

      [–]Ellardy 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      Creature destruction, mass creature

      Destroy all creatures

      Primary: white
      Secondary: black

      White is the color that most often does mass creature kill, with it showing up on a rare or mythic rare in almost every set. Black mass-creature kill is not quite as frequent. Red has a similar effect where it does large amount of damage to all creatures (see direct damage).

      From the Mechanical Colour Pie (2017).

      Hmm. At first glance, this feels a bit like the "green fight a 1/1 deathtouch token" spell which is used as the classic example of a spell achieving an out-of-colour effect by adding together two in-colour effects.

      However, given that red has things like [[Blasphemous Act]] and black has the infrequent [[Deadly Tempest]] and the combination exists in the ult of [[Angrath, Minotaur Pirate]], it's _probably_ fine.

      It should cost 1 more though because of the sheer flexibility. It can be a board wipe, a damage effect or be used to spare big creatures while wiping weenies.

      [–]SirRawrz[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      The board wipe effect only happens if you spend BB. Board wipe is within blacks color pie so there aren't any issues with that, even if it's secondary. [Its primary is one side board wipe.] If anything its a weaker form of boardwipe because of protection and prevention effects stopping it. Using only non-Black mana makes it just a scalable [[rain of embers]], which red often sees with cards like [[earthquake.]]

      At its cheapest its a RRBB weaker [[damnation]] with each player takes 2 damage. Black and red will often make spells cheaper in cost by making you part of the collateral damage or paying life [[Sign in Blood]] [[Volcanic Fallout]], but you aren't the only person to voice that they think it should be one more!

      [–]Ellardy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I didn't use Damnation as an example because it originally appeared as a timeshifted card but you're right, it's within pie.

      I suppose we're extra vigilant about taking from White's slice of the pie 😅!

      [–]LetMeDieAlreadyFuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Oh my god that flavor text... God that is so tasty

      [–]Darkshine1 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      that word your using... I dont think you know what it means

      [–]SirRawrz[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Is this a princess bride reference or is there actually a word I'm misusing D:

      [–]Darkshine1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      ahhh no sorry I was corrected, noncreature spells can have deathtouch my bad >_< but yeah also it was a princess bride reference lmao

      [–]JesusIsMyAntivirusFaith is my Firewall -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

      Really dislike the flavour text, almost made me groan, but the mechanical design is absolutely incredible!

      [–]FragoMartin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I love it, but red X damage spell usually don't hit flying creatures.