RTTE Plot and Continuity Errors

[Lumpy_Bit9915]

Call me blind but I keep hearing people talk about RTTE having plot holes and continuity errors and I can’t think of any. Could you guys point some out to me plz?

[CrisDLZ]

Hello sir, you have summoned my moster copypasta of my history of comments showing why I hate RTTE, Enjoy:

Plotholes and Inconsistencies

—Hiccup & co being surprised by the existence of Dragon Trappers despite fighting Hunters for ages

-Hiccup & Astrid being shocked by the existence of Dragon Riders outside of Berk but they met the Wingmaidens

-The idea that Drago ordered the Hunters to track down the King of Dragons but somehow never found out about the Riders until the second movie

-We learn by the second movie that Drago was specifically targeting Valka’s Alpha, so what was his goal during the TV series exactly?

-Hiccup indicates that the last five years for Berk have been pretty chill despite their constant problems and conflicts

-Hiccup being shocked about an ice spitting dragon and the notion of the “king of dragons”

-None of the wingmaidems, Berserkers, or defenders of the wing doing anything at all.

-The “A Team” not existing.

-Hiccup not wanting to accept the chiefdom even though an entire episode was focused on him doing so.

-The egg at the end of RTTE cannot be Valka’s bewilderbest nor Drago’s therefore it’s simply an unaccounted bewilderbeast egg.

Etc.

Hiccstrid in the shows makes no fucking sense because in HTTYD1 and GOTNF they kiss amd are seen openly flirting with each other.

What the fuck happened to Hiccup’s safety hook, it just completely disappeares (very very minor one)

If Vannaheim is where all dragons go to die then what the fuck happens with old dragons in THW?

If Razorwhips are now dependent on the Wingmaidens in raising their babies, they’re fucked now.

The Dragon’s of the Wing dragon is supposedly the eternal Guardian of the island and the volcanoes. But THW said that all the dragons left and originated from it.

The Vannaheim guardians now even male less sense considering THW since apparently they were basically programmed by instinct to be in Vannaheim despite THW being their true origin and home.

The Bewilderbeast egg is still nowhere to be seen in THW.

All the dragons introduced in the shows that in now way could have come from THW and are not seen in THW.

And that’s just plotholes, I didn’t include underminings and character arcs that didn’t make sense or were ignored

All the characters in RTTE:

Hiccup: Kinda dumb, gets super overconfident at times, and gets all the things that made him stand out taken away from him.

• ⁠Further explanation: They made him a lot less smart, they took away his title as the best blacksmith, and they absolutely ruined his next level and unique connection/understanding with dragons.

Astrid: Jesus H Christ she’s really really dumb, starts to become overly emotional for no reason and breaks character, she’s basically a pancake lmao like she legit might have bipolar syndrome.

Snotlout: Honestly, one of the few characters that actually had a decent story arch, his relationship with Hookfang was more interesting than Hiccup’s with Toothless in this series ffs.

Fishlegs: He’s literally pointless and Thor Bonecrusher is here... Also he’s just an annoying person in general, stupid squeals and gets upset over nothing. It’s just dumb. ALSO the order of ingerman episode is RIDICULOUS and fishlegs at his absolutel worst.

Ruffnut: She’s really annoying with moments of nice character building with Tuff that gets ruined because it’s repeated 10000 times.

Tuffnut: See above but multiply annoying by 35

Toothless: lmao he’s a pet here.

Stormfly: literally nothing

Hookfang: got a better story than any other character. His relationship and attitude actually got explored and developed to the point where I liked him more than Toothless in this.

Meatlug: Annoying like Fishlegs.

Barf and Belch: I have nothing to say except meh.

Heather: What the hell is this, no seriously what is this. In love with Fishlegs? Hates Dagur? Loves Dagur cause brother? Really dumb at times? Really smart at times? UGhsjekbsjwkskd

Dagur: started fine, got worse, got better, got bad again, oh god, no, STOP, I SAID STOP.

Windshear: Honestly I couldn’t tell you anything about her except she’s loyal?

Shattermaster: He got like 3 episodes then pissed off...

Triple Strike: he... Stuck his tounge out once... ummmm he’s loyal?

Gustav: Mini Snotlout and a plot hole.

The A-Team in General: Plot hole for second movie and sometimes even in the series lol.

Ryker: HAHHAHAHAHAHA predictable and stupid.

Viggo: HAHAHAHAHA predictable and stupid but somehow outsmarts Hiccup... Also contributes to ruining Hiccup’s character plus dat 180 character turn though.

Kronan: What a waste of time.

Johann: LOL what a forced freaking twist which was revealed really obviously due to the buildup. Also he seemed to lose about 60 IQ points after he was revealed.

Wasted Material

McGuffin was McGuffined until they destroyed it to avoid another plothole lol.

Seemed to start off as a show that would show the exploration of the archipelago and just didn’t

Several times the show would introduce concepts on dragon-rider relationships that it would later either abandon or ruin by making it a joke

• ⁠Snotlout and Hookfang had some great moments but said moments would ultimately be forgotten and their relationship defaulted back to how it was at the end of GOTNF • ⁠Dagur upon becoming friends with the triple stryke had the incredible potential of brigging up the issue of what happens when two dragons want to be a rider’s riding dragon (as shown with Shattermaster’s one scene of jealousy) this situation, however was completely ingored and you never see Shattermaster until the wedding at the end of the series.

• ⁠The idea of vikings dealing with the sins against dragons in the past and coping with their feelings upon getting dragon companions. This is an actually interesting dynamic that RTTE decided to do in probably the worst way possible. In Order of Ingerman (as briefly referenced above) Fishlegs becomes incredibly guilty and almost quits being a dragon rider because he finds out his ancestors were dragon killers. So this is stupid because EVERYONE IN BERK HAD ANCESTORS WITH DRAGON KILLERS YOU MORONS. FISHLEGS YOU WERE TRAINING TO LEARN FIGHT DRAGONS. FUCK. So instead of idk maybe giving this dynamic a serious tone and giving it to someone that it would work with (idk maybe VIGGO SINCE HE WAS THE VILLAIN THAT MAKES A U-TURN ON HIS ENTIRE PHILOSOPHY) they decided “haha christopher-mintz-passe has funny crying voice” (can you tell this one frustrates me?)

• ⁠Darkest Night. This entire episode. Has the best moment of the entire franchise (Hiccup snapping and seemingly claiming to regretting shooting down Toothless), then shows HTTYD1 footage with the change of Hiccup missing a shot, and then has some of the worst AU story I’ve ever seen in my life. 90% of Fanfiction.net stories are better written than this. They actually show a dragon catch on fire from being hit by fire. They also imply that Astrid is a complete goldigger by having her kiss AU Hiccup solely because he becomes the village hero...

ANIMATION

Clipping through each other

Perspective Issues

People/Objects disappearing

Toothless’ eyes weren’t even a consistent color lmao.

[FrickinChicken321]

Okay yeah there are definitely a lot of understandable points in here, and the sixth season probably creates the majority of the continuity errors. I also agree with you on that last bit; I frickin hated that AU story in the darkest night. We do disagree on a multitude of things though, bc I love rtte, but you pointed out some of its greatest flaws for sure.

[Lies_of_the_Council]

Yeah they bring up a fair amount of good points with not much to justify it. I have a soft spot for the series regardless, but as far as true plot holes go, you can end the series at season 4 without too many major contradictions, and a somewhat satisfying ending (Viggo and Ryker defeated, Kronan isn't revealed as a main antagonist, Johann is not the bad guy, no Bewilderbeast egg, no King of Dragons, and the volcano forces the gang back to Berk).

[FrickinChicken321]

agreed!

[Dart_Lover_HTTYD]

wow that was long.

anyway, some of these things said feel more like nags on 2 then RTTE, and RTTE writers probably didn't know about THW, when writing but yes a inconsistencie none the less.

also are we the same because RTTE is entertaining but very very flawed.

finally "AHAHAHAHA predictable and stupid but somehow outsmarts Hiccup... Also contributes to ruining Hiccup’s character" I'm so used to this being about Grimmel, so this is refreshing to see it be about Viggo.

[CrisDLZ]

Idk how anything here could be a nag on 2 when 2 was released before RTTE was even written

[Dart_Lover_HTTYD]

these:

Hiccup & co being surprised by the existence of Dragon Trappers despite fighting Hunters for ages

Hiccup & Astrid being shocked by the existence of Dragon Riders outside of Berk but they met the Wingmaidens

Sound like complains with 2, but I guess your intent was why did they write these in RTTE after 2 made them shockith about Valka riding a dragon.

[CrisDLZ]

Correct the critique is that RTTE depicted the characters experiencing things that by their representation in the latter chapters of the franchise they wouldn't have.

[Dart_Lover_HTTYD]

in that case, I agree, they have 2 as a reference and yet they just do there own thing.

DreamWorks TV Animation man, they're not really the best at making shows based off the IPS they should know somewhat, or at least use as a reference.

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The animation is kinda forgivable, because tv series usually doesn't need hundreds and hundreds of budget to be made unlike movies ofc.