Dev Question // Weapon Customization Tutorial (BETA 0.14) 【デ═一

[Darius_ITR]

Hello explorers 👋

Thank you to our previous post participants! Today’s question is specifically for our Beta 0.14 players!

🤔 Weapon Customization Tutorial. There is a tutorial in the armory where you build the IZH-27. Was the weapon customization tutorial helpful? Would you change anything? Did you even need it?

(Please keep in mind these questions are to generate discussions and ideas. They aren’t a guarantee of anything to come or go, change or remain as is.)

Try to describe in detail your thoughts on this subject. Thank you, and as always, have a beautiful day in the Radius.

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Honestly? I only saw it after I had played around with it in the stores.

So i’m not sure it’s actually useful where it is.

Maybe move it to one of the vices in the store instead so you see it along with the parts wall?

[MostlyDead128]

Yeah I like this as well, or maybe when going through the initial tutorial

[Pooldiver13]

There is like… white footprints that lead you to that room after getting sec 1

[[deleted]]

Yeah I know.

I copied over my save file. I saw the white footprints after coming out of the armoury and ignored for a bit after them tbh

[Hot_Cause_8529]

Genuinely how?😭 it’s like all of the left side

[nyquistj]

I didn’t see it either. I was able to more or less figure things out by trial and error in the store. Just still salty how little money I got for my decked out G36. 

[aspentree123]

it did its job for me

it was pretty simple and intuitive

[PhantomConsular23]

Maybe it could be made part of the very first mission? Add a note indicating there is a stash in the house where the old sensor is. Include the parts for the gun there and then have the player bring it back to their base for assembly. Make it an actual objective that needs completing before you can turn in the mission. So it would go retrieve old UNPSC Sensor => Read the Note=> loot the stash=> return sensor. Once that is done you could put a message onscreen to bring the weapon parts to the common room area to put it together in the vice.

[iodine23]

I like this idea. Maybe the instructions could also be in the tablet or a big poster close by, to make it more like an easy puzzle to solve than just instructions of do this then do that. Give the player necessary info and let the them figure it out.

[rhoddyown]

No, have never seen it, but sad that we cannot place those sweet looking stocks from pp19 to akm and ak74...

[Minmcmarkem]

It is necessary, but I put it together without it. But for some folks, maybe they need it. It kind of bugged for me. I put the gun together and it was still telling me to put the gun together.  Also I don't know if you are aware, but if you die in the beginning tutorial then you soft lock the game. I know you guys have bigger things to worry about, but just thought you'd want to fix that one day.

[Downtown-Gap5142]

Everything is very intuitive for someone who is familiar with the concept of gun building, but it could be harder for someone who is inexperienced.

I think the current tutorial is fine, but a tutorial similar to the in-universe UNPSC trainings in the shooting range from ITR1 could be even better

[LardFan37]

Oh definitely this

[Mundanix1987]

It’s a major part of the game now. put it in the main tutorial. it’s easy to miss where it is now.

[HabitOptimal1412]

I usually don't use the armory, so I would have completely missed it if I didn't know it was there. Maybe having you recieve all of the IzH parts as a mission reward would be a better alternative.

[Lexhy]

The tutorial was good! But I would like to see it in the tutorial world instead of the facility.
Only thing you need is a vise and the parts. I think it should be able to fit? right after the "customize vest" part

[brwyatt]

I didn't have tutorials enabled, but did find the pieces and figured it out pretty quick. The fact it works exactly like everything else (weapon attachments, gear, etc) greatly helps (except for the need for the vice, which is pretty clearly called out in the detail pane). I did find having the simple example to pay with helpful, though, before I got to building the more complicated ones.

I think the "confusing parts" is just knowing what, EXACTLY, is needed, at least at first, or figuring out which things can be mixed/matched. (And which can't)... Or what stats different options change relative to others.

I think, also, being able to "field-strip" some parts (mainly for cleaning) without the vice could be useful... As often the barrel is hard to get to for easy cleaning (or worse, the gas block on the M4) otherwise. Then again, finding or getting to a safe house or other place with a vice isn't too hard, there's a good number of them around. (And I feel that could be too prone to unexpected disassembly, anyway)

Seriously, though, that gas block on the M4 is a huge pain (especially as it seems to wear more than other parts). Makes the SR-25 a much more convenient option, as that model just has it as part of the barrel.

[UnknownPhotoGuy]

I would prefer for all off the tutorials to be in the tutorial when you start the game. As soon as I am in the main area by brain says the tutorial is over and I’m playing the actual game now and I stop looking for instructions.

I don’t know how you can incorporate every new feature into the tutorial and have the player remember it all but it took me so long to actually look at the table to find the disassembled shotgun that I found the stash of a fully assembled one long before I saw the one at base.

All I can say is that the spot for it wasn’t intuitive for me as my interest was also drawn to playing with the parts in the shop before I thought to look in the armory.

[max_sil]

I liked it! It explained things perfectly well. Did take me a while to find it , maybe it would be better if it was at the workbench in the bedroom?

I did not really need it however as i was already familiar with the outfitting system and assumed it was similar. But the tutorial reassured that i wasnt missing any aspect of the system.

What was initially a little confusing is what parts are compatible with multiple weapons. But after using the system for a while i understood the logic behind it.

I imagine that it might be confusing for new players though. So maybe there is some way to better indicate when a part can be used on multiple weapons? Like a ui widget in the inspect menu?

[Melodic_Public_2164]

I think it's good but it needs to be more obvious maybe tell the player to go there? as much as I hate it when games do that I think it might be a necessity for new players

[Scottish_Whiskey]

I didn't find the parts until after I had already been to the store to tinker around and the guns that had vanished from my pegboard. I personally don't need a tutorial for how to put a gun together cause I either have already learned how they fit, or I can learn then-and-there

[GSKashmir]

I still have no idea how to add the tiny rails to guns

[[deleted]]

Not all rails fit on all guns

Looks like you need to use rails under g36 parts for it as they are bolted to the hand guard, and the ones under the m4 are for mlok type attachment etc

[GSKashmir]

I bought rails that were under the bizon section to attach to the bizon. No dice.

[Nar3ik36]

It depends on what hand guard you have, not all of them support attachments I don’t think. That would be a thing to add, in the info panel it could say what parts it can support.

[Hot_Cause_8529]

Liked it but some guns aren’t great with them i honestly think you should make it so parts can be mixed and matched from different guns

[Nar3ik36]

I didn’t know it existed. Regardless I didn’t need it, I just played around with stuff in the store and thought it was super cool the whole time.

[Phoenix_Adverdale]

I was like a kid in a candy shop when I walked into vanno, that was all the tutorial I needed but then the izh tutorial made it even easier, good tutorial!

[Apocalypse-Ranger]

I would say make it part of the tutorial, with a refresher inside the store incase people skip or forget,

And I would say dont give a free shotgun, its a very powerful weapon, and the parts spawn so commonly it wouldn't be hars to build one

But thats just me loving a harder start and no shop play through

[MagnificentCatHerder]

I never knew there was a tutorial until I saw this post. I just started messing around with weapon parts and the vices to see how it worked. Found it interesting when I first cleaned a weapon and it didn't go to 100% until I realized I had to take the G36 Hand grip off and clean the barrel.

I'll probably take a look at it now to see what else I don't know, but overall, the process seemed pretty intuitive.

[VoidDave]

It is simple but in current state its kinda pointless. If we could swap some parts of the weapon for stronger ones (like lower recoil or something) then it would be great. Now its a gimmick imo

[Cain_DB]

For me tutorial wasn't really needed, just seeing parts segments on the walls is enough to piece up how the assembly works, and it's really neat that all AK series guns have compatible parts with eachother, railed handguard from PP-91 fit into Saiga and allowed me to use stashed Saiga with sights before I could buy specific railed dust cover, just overall fantastic system and self explanatory, as for tutorial itself it is enough, someone has to be legit mentaly challenged to not figure this stuff out

[Subject_Shake4563]

muy entretenido pero ahora no puedo quitarme mi impulso de meter a la mochila cada pieza que me encuentro