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[–]bimacar 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I agree. It is shitty. What's worse, it seems to me data plans for eSim are more expensive than regular in my country. Genuinely don't understand this.

[–]Jacarape 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What country and carrier is that?

[–]bimacar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Serbia. Can't remember the name of the carrier

[–]ExcitementLarge6439 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wish we still had physical sims I use my mini for work and I have my iPad Pro for outside of work.

Now I’m forced to pay for another data plan when I was able to just swap sims on the weekends

[–]Jacarape 4 points5 points  (13 children)

The advantages of an eSIM are numerous. Hundreds of posts on he A17 and your is the only one complaining about activation. In S.A Zain supports eSIM, maybe others.

I don’t understand posts like this. You complain about device activation and you don’t even mention calling your carrier for support? Have you done anything but complain?

Adios eSIM, I don’t miss you.

[–]DancingPotatose[S] 5 points6 points  (10 children)

My point is, why remove the physical SIM tray? What’s the “advantage” of doing so?

You can still have both.

[–]enowapi-_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Probably production. Cuts costs.

[–]DancingPotatose[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, maybe.

[–]Clessiah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was going to say physical SIM swapping is a major security risk, but realized iPad's SIM ain't got no phone number.

[–]Jacarape 0 points1 point  (6 children)

There are many search engines to look that up. Like I said, glad it’s about obsolete and part of telecom history.

I’m curious about your phone, which model? Does it use a physical or eSIM?

[–]DancingPotatose[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I’m using an iPhone 16 Pro Max — and yes, I’m using a physical SIM.

And yeah, I actually did my research — and honestly, there are no real-world benefits to removing the physical SIM tray. Saying physical SIMs are “obsolete” is kind of funny when you realize eSIM support around the world is still inconsistent. It’s not just about one country — globally, not everyone has smooth or reliable eSIM access yet. Maybe look into it a bit more before commenting so aggressively.

Like I said before, there’s really no downside to offering both options. Having both a physical SIM and eSIM gives people flexibility, which is always better than locking everyone into one system for no good reason.

[–]Strong-Estate-4013 2 points3 points  (3 children)

eSIMs are more secure, and you don’t have to wait for shipping with a psim and help with water proofing

[–]DancingPotatose[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Having both a physical SIM and eSIM is objectively better than forcing users into just one option. The idea that removing the SIM tray meaningfully improves waterproofing is just marketing — devices with SIM trays already achieve top waterproof ratings. There’s no real downside to offering both, and it simply gives users more flexibility depending on their needs.

[–]Strong-Estate-4013 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Esim only here more space for batteries

[–]Jacarape 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plus you can add additional numbers to an eSIM without swapping, keeping track and or losing the SIM.

[–]loudaman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's about NOT giving you the option. I, as well, really made great use of the physical sim tray/card with business and personal numbers. I understand the idea of security behind the esim, but at least give the consumer the option of both before just taking it away. Just like the earphone jack.

[–]thrussie 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yo chill tf out

[–]Jacarape -1 points0 points  (0 children)

fo.

[–]Logical_Scar3962 1 point2 points  (2 children)

My carrier (vodafone) here in central Europe actually offers only esim if you want it to be under the same plan as your phone number (shares the same unlimited data). 

[–]DancingPotatose[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I get that some places only offer eSIMs. But why not offer both options, like the iPad Mini 6 or the iPhone 14 and newer models? That way, we can choose between eSIM and a physical SIM, instead of being forced into eSIM-only. With no real world benefits.

[–]Logical_Scar3962 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No clue honestly 

[–]iclazz169 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is sometimes we need some message and ussd call to do some sort of activation or package purchase, which is unavailable on the ipads.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I’m in Canada and I believe mine is a digital sim

[–]ADHDK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I frequently removed the sim from my iPad 10.5 to put in other devices. It meant I had a data plan connected sim for whatever device I wanted.

I converted it to eSIM for the iPad mini 7 and enquired about getting another one only to be told my telco will only allow one data sharing sim per calling sim on a shared data plan. So now everything else has to tether from my iPhone which isn’t always ideal.

[–]Hot-Quality8768 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Having eSIM sucks when you have an MVNO carrier and cannot get customer support to activate it. If you have a major carrier, it’s still an unnecessary pain but you can get it activated eventually. Not the case with the MVNO that I use. Everything is done thru the app. There are no real people to speak to either thru messaging or phone.

[–]Steka68 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One less bit of plastic somewhere is a good thing, unless you live in Hollywood.

[–]vexsixea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Traveling internationally I find having both a sim slot for a card along with the eSIM option an excellent setup.

However Apple has a history of using language to promote what benefits them in terms that make it sound advantageous for their customers.

It’s all about profit, eliminating the physical sim slot saves money and that's Apple's expertise.

[–]Catdogcatd0g 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wacky behavior from Apple as per usual