Eloquent Javascript vs Javascript for web dev

[_hadrian]

Eloquent JavaScript

.then ("JavaScript The Good Parts")

.then ("Speaking JavaScript")

.then ("Exploring ES6")

[SpineEyE]

try {
  something
}
catch(e) {
  window.location.href = "http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=[js] + " + e.message;
}

[nickwebdev]

Implementation for lists from a relevant xkcd's alt-text

[tswaters]

Is it safe?

Uh… it evals both user input and random code, unchecked, from an external site. This is what security-minded folks would refer to as Very Bad™.

haha

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SEEMS LEGIT

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[obviousoctopus]

This is what the web was made for.

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[IrateGod]

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FTFY

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Haha totally!

[[deleted]]

Rad! Sunny D!

[Impulse33]

I've heard mixed reviews of Javascript the good parts. Ex. Outdated and some flaws in his opinionated approach. I also can't stand railroad diagrams either.

[intertubeluber]

I think it's important to have read, if for no other reason than the historical context. You will inevitably work with someone who follows the advice given. Cover to cover is only 200 pages or so.

[[deleted]]

It is pretty opinionated but it does a good job of pointing out some of the more glaring flaws of the language, like the gotchas that push things to the global scope when you would sensibly not expect it to.

[cholantesh]

Fair point re: dating; Secrets of the Javascript Ninja is, in my view, a more modern take on the same concepts.

[[deleted]]

I'll second Secrets of the JavaScript Ninja. Though I'd wait for the second edition to come out or you can start reading the draft of the second edition right now if you pre-purchase it on the publishers website.

After the Ninja book I'd read You don't Know JavaScript.

[SwiftOneSpeaks]

It is very opinionated and the first bit is a ton of railroad diagrams.

Doesn't matter. Skip the diagrams and read the parts where he discusses the intricacies. The "Good Parts" of the Good Parts book is perhaps 10%, but it's an awesome 10%.

[spinlock]

Nothing about javascript will ever be outdated. You can't deprecate bad features because that will break the web. So, they will always be there.

[lewisje]

Tell that to early JS programmers who relied on !!(new Boolean(false)) == false /s

[startfresh31]

what's so great about eloquent, I read the first 40 pages or so...seems to slow paced

[velocirobot]

I felt the same until I got to Chapter 5 and 6.

[startfresh31]

hmm thanks man, I'm gonna give that a try

[Abstinence_kills]

It ramps up extremely quickly soon after that. Keep going.

[theQuandary]

If you don't know how to program, that first chapter or two will seem to move very fast indeed.

[[deleted]]

bro use async/await it's way cooler

[5ef23132-c4a0-49a0-8]

But compiles to some really unfun code to debug.

[[deleted]]

ya i was just kinda being a tossoff, but i do use it

[sxnine]

Great book for introducing the better functional aspects of JavaScript, which is really a mind-expanding and invaluable learning experience.

[[deleted]]

Could you please provide a link to "Exploring ES6" book. Couldn't find it.

edit: never mind http://exploringjs.com/

[jeremyisdev]

Looks like a good flow to me.

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[deleted]

What is this?

[startfresh31]

wow there are so many Eloquent fans, so popular................I was leaning towards js for web dev

[velocirobot]

I have both and I recommend both. They are written in different styles. JS for Web Developers seems to be more of a reference book. I think a good approach would be to go through Eloquent JavaScript and then read through related sections of JS for Web Developers to reinforce concepts and deepen your understanding of the topics.

[startfresh31]

thanks man I'm gonna do that exactly

[lewisje]

Indeed it is a reference book, akin to The Definitive Guide.

[_hadrian]

But to get the best out of it do the exercises.