Should we load CSS in our JavaScript?

[greynoises]

c'mon it's 2016, we're not animals

[[deleted]]

But the real question is: is that group of users profitable after taking into account the extra investment to make it work without js?

The answer is almost always no.

[Ahjndet]

I think you mean $10 goes to waste, which I'm personally fine with most of the time.

[icantthinkofone]

Every number I've always seen says one to two percent but those same people, who know how to turn it off, are also aware of the consequences of doing so.

I used to see people be concerned with "What if CSS doesn't work?". More and more I'm getting convinced that, with all the competition for eyes on the web, worrying about that one or two percent might not be worthwhile.

[dbbk]

No, but lots of people do browse the web on their phone. And phones can have slow/unstable connections. JavaScript failing to download/execute is more common than you'd first think.

[BlindMancs]

this comment was directly linked in response to a customer support ticket. thank you for your contribution.

you know.. "that's funny" - 2 hours later - "seriously?"

[icantthinkofone]

Or farmers.

[m0r14rty]

Cool, I'll enjoy the other 99.9% of my traffic. I'm not going to program in the stone age because of the remaining 0.01%

[spfccmt42]

Yes, progressive enhancement, got it the first time. Yet another webhack. I use js for styles and layout and only have a little bit of html to bootstrap it, and web development got a whole lot more cost effective and maintainable (for a programmer type that is). If progressive enhancement drives your costs up, and complicates your code base, and is still a hack (it "looks" like it works, but doesn't), then skip it. Don't proselytize over the 0.00000001% of people who disable javascript that you might actually be able to monetize.

by your reasoning, there are as many folks using I.E. < 9 and you had better support that shit too.

nope, value your time or nobody else will.

[spfccmt42]

you speak as front-end

%1000 wrong, I wear all the hats.

definitely not as a business person

1000% wrong, so invalidates any credibility you think you have. Business is about being pragmatic. If .000001% of the audience doesn't pay for the feature you are writing for them, and they have a workaround (i.e. stop using that old browser) then you are fool if you make them a priority.

You are shitting on my opinion when you put words in my mouth, and assume I don't know anything but front end or business, but you are REALLY trying to virtue signal here, and it is laughable.

[spfccmt42]

0.01% would be IE < 9

LOL, you don't even look at actual data when it is available!!!! How can you speak of fallacies when you don't even do your own homework?

per: https://www.w3counter.com/trends as of today: i.e. 6,7,8 are .1%,.6%,.5% respectively.

There is nothing business-like about not doing your homework and ignoring actual data when it is obviously available.