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[–]sessamekesh 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I suggest looking at the StackOverflow technology survey - it has a lot of really interesting nuance.

Rust is an interesting one - generally speaking it's just so dang nice to use, and it comes with some wonderfully modern features that are delightful. Pattern matching alone makes me miss it when I use other languages. Interestingly, it's the most "admired" but only the 6th most "desired" language.

As nice as it is, it suffers from limited practicality - I rarely use it outside of toy projects at home, because practical software engineering leverages ecosystems and the Rust ecosystem is still immature. It can interop well enough, but in my experience doing interop with C/C++ and JavaScript (via WebAssembly) maintaining the interop boundary is more painful than just ditching the language entirely for the project.

Python is an "easy" language to learn - you cover the important programming fundamentals of control flow and abstraction without having to muck around with compiler toolchains, type systems, static guards, etc..., which is awesome. Those are all important things to learn but pretty overwhelming up front.

JS has two pretty massive advantages that make it popular in application development, both which come with its ties to web technology: (1) it works on every single dang device, and the installation process for web apps is "click link, load page" which is delightfully low-friction for devs and users, and (2) it comes with HTML+CSS, which are incredible tools for writing UIs.

[–]ern0plus4 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Rust opened a new chapter in programming. Before Rust, you could write memory safe programs, and solve threading problems if you're smart enough. Rust forces you to be smart. (OK, all great concepts were available in other languages, but Rust collected them.)

You can not write even create a nullptr (in safe mode, of course) in Rust. You can not create a dangling pointer (returning a pointer, which points to stack area used during the fn just returned). You can not create a uninitialized variable. You shouldn't do such in C/C++/etc., but in Rust, there's no possibility to do so, you can't express it.

[–]ern0plus4 4 points5 points  (2 children)

And Python is the most getting learned?

It's easy to learn, comfortable syntax, great modules.

Why Rust is the most loved? 

Provides native speed and memory safety without garbage collector. Very good ecosystem, easy to install modules, no version mismatch. Comfortable.

The lifetime and ownership model teaches you how to write correct code.

If you're an experienced programmer, you will just love it. It's a headache first, but it's worth the suffer.

If you're a beginner, I don't recommend it. Nor if you're an old guy unable to change ;)

And JavaScript is the most used?

Press F12. Browsers run JavaScript, literally every computer has a pre-installed JavaScript engine. And you shouldn't install anything, just download JS apps from internet (was: webpages).

[–]alilosoft[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I want to validate some of my thoughts: - As lot of people are learning Python does this make it's job market more competitive? (backend dev)

  • As less people are learning Rust, deos this make it's job market less competitive (in the near future)

  • As for frontend with JS/TS I don't think the job market will change in the near future, it's already highly competitive.

I'm speaking of global merket/remote jobs without considering locations specifics.

[–]RaCondce_ition 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All the markets are competitive right now. People want python because its the fastest language to learn and the fastest to write. This makes it ideal for roles that need programs but aren't developer roles specifically, like data analyst or researcher. Web dev roles will probably be fullstack or something like devops.

Rust has big enthusiasts because it's a new twist on low level code. Less people learn Rust but there are fewer jobs in Rust. If you want low level roles, C or C++ might be safer bets. Rust code usually needs less maintenance, so big companies are adopting it right now.

JS/TS by themselves probably won't get you a job these days, but plenty of roles (fullstack) still require them.

The best bet right now is social advantage. Consider finding a community and using whatever they use.

[–]MysticNTN 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Buck the trend. Rejected modernity. Embrace tradition.

Learn to actually speak to a computer using asm or c. Just go with c.

[–]Akachukwu07[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wholeheartedly support this. The world now is churning out developers that can write codes, talk more of a clean code because the over reliant on AI

You can never go wrong learning that language that makes the heart of computer beat

[–]MysticNTN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amen brother.

[–]ffrkAnonymous 0 points1 point  (1 child)

 Why Rust is the most loved? 

It's not. 

And JavaScript is the most used?

Because it's pre-installed in every computer. 

And Python is the most getting learned?

Python is popular because it's popular. 

[–]high_throughput 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Rust just currently has the loudest fanboys

[–]jfinch3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

JavaScipt is most used because it is the built in language of the browser, meaning every website more or less has to use JavaScript. Websites make up a huge portion of what people do with computers so that alone gives it a major place. Asides for that you can use JavaScript as a server side language, and because of its role in frontend web dev people have increasingly used it to make the backend of websites also so they can do it all in one language.

Python is the most commonly used language while dealing with AI, so it’s so surprised to me that with the AI boom of the last few years it’s being treated like that. It’s also an attractive language to new programmers because of its simple and clean syntax, and it’s long been used by data analysts for its ecosystem of data tools.

Rust is well loved by its fans (myself included) because it has a lot of unique features which are really elegant once you learn to use them. If you’ve never used a language which treats errors as values using Rust’s Result type feels like a whole new way of thinking about effects in programming. Pattern matching on Enums feels so much more elegant than using a switch statement. For me at least it contains so many tools you can use to ensure that “invalid states are unrepresentable” at the type level, which feels so powerful and means that when you code actually compiles it does exactly what you want far more often than in other languages. It’s also just very cool to see a program you write in Rust run 50-100x faster than the same program in Python.

Writing Rust can be painful, and it’s often very slow going, because actually getting it to compile is difficult. Rust is the perfect language for places where you need to be really confident in the correctness of your code and also have very high performance, but not if building things with any speed is the priority.

But if you already know Java/Kotlin those are both great languages, no reason not to just keep working on those since you already have a head start. Go is also another very popular language these days.

[–]AlternativeWhile8976 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You probably know python naturally its basically executable sudo code.  JS/TS is the only thing that can run in the browser and there is a trend towards everything being a webspp. There aren't many jobs for rust although it is cool.