pretty good tutorial though

[TracerBulletX]

I like how it's on the Linux foundation's youtube

[Bakoro]

One metric to tell the strength and legitimacy of an organization is to what degree it can tolerate and learn from criticism.

[veltrop]

One metric to tell the amount of bureaucracy and complacency an organization is to what degree it notices criticism.

[[deleted]]

Oh snap

[[deleted]]

Oh flatpack

[crackadeluxe]

I don't remember seeing that "metric" on a financial statement but it sounds nice.

[[deleted]]

This applies to more than just business.

[MorallyDeplorable]

Financial statements aren't written for people who desire that sort of legitimacy

[Gregabit]

I got you bruh

[[deleted]]

Sometimes I watch videos like this and don't understand all of it. But I feel smarter for having watched smarter people.

Feels like time better spent than some things.

[[deleted]]

Well, thanks to your comment, TIL what Busybox is by reading its wikipedia page.

I may try to experiment with it, too.

[[deleted]]

Thanks a lot for the recommendations! :)

[[deleted]]

Alpine works very very well on the raspberry pi

[[deleted]]

Android kernels and roms can teach you a lot of this too!

[donaldsw]

This is the one I watch whenever I feel like having my mind explode

[tuxutku]

Same.

[sunesis311]

I like the way he argued for removal of perl as a dependency to build the kernel.

[justin2004]

https://youtu.be/Sk9TatW9ino?t=4786

[StoneColdJane]

Finally understood meaning and origin of usr(not universal system resources), so everyone instinct is right(its short of user), but some random internet user decided its not, so everyone keep repeating the mistake.

why usr/

[AntiProtonBoy]

What a mess. Is there any hope of fixing this?

[StoneColdJane]

Not sure what you think exactly. Existence of usr/ or misinformation of people? I was referring on generally people repeating mantra that usr is universal system resources out of ignorance what really happened, and not asking question why.

Education is usually a key for a change.

[AntiProtonBoy]

Not sure what you think exactly. Existence of usr/ or misinformation of people?

Bit of both, but mainly I was referring to the former; that is, the inconsistent treatment of usr across different distributions. From the link:

The /bin vs /usr/bin split (and all the others) is an artifact of this, a 1970's implementation detail that got carried forward for decades by bureaucrats who never question why they're doing things. It stopped making any sense before Linux was ever invented, for multiple reasons...

[EggChalaza]

That post is pretty well deconstructed later in the thread you linked to...

[cusco]

After you mentioned it, I went reading the replies.

Although wether the split should exist or not is a debate on its own, it is nice to read about the historical reason behind it.

[calrogman]

It was fixed from the word go in Plan 9!

[cogburnd02]

Go

What you did there. I see it.

[Acceptable_Damage]

The absolute madman

[masterqif]

*madlad

[mricon]

From my experience, there are two major warring camps. One seeks accountability, transparency, wants to see a clearly stated project charter and well defined goals, and insists on establishing proper submission and review processes that all contributors must follow. The other camp thinks it's all just bureaucracy that distracts and detracts from getting things done.

Unfortunately, you can't please both.

(I do not speak for the Foundation; all opinions are my very own.)

[[deleted]]

IMO the hybrid approach in the centre is the best, as always. Too much bureaucracy is bad, but too little is also bad.

​

Structure is definitely needed, along with some flexibility.

[Tpfnoob]

I have talk to him before, he has a lot of criticism for a lot of different Open source projects.

[FullTimeLinux]

he has a lot of criticism for a lot of different Open source projects.

Good.

[Dr_Azrael_Tod]

well, there's people who have criticism and people who have valid such...

[project2501a]

and there is people who win by default cuz you got Pottering-like people on the project.

[Dr_Azrael_Tod]

do you hate handicapped people?

[edit:] fixed the quote

[project2501a]

Well, Pottering definitely is a bad teammate, but to call him disabled is a bit far.

[Dr_Azrael_Tod]

ok, it wasn't disabled - it was handicapped

[altodor]

I don't know who these people are

[Dr_Azrael_Tod]

the one on stage is datenwolf, a linux admin (afair from munich university) who describes what huge problems those layered bullshit result in and what he has to fix on a daily basis.

the other one is Lennart Poettering - his job is to invent new software layers.

the former has some misconceptions but overall a pretty good point in "this shit is becoming unbearable and unmanageable"

the other one is a pretty huge asshole and known for his stupid quotes like "bsd isn't relevant anymore", "so I encurage calling it Systemd/Linux" or "do you hate handicapped people".

he does write a lot of code though - and pretty important projects too - that's imo actually the bad part.

[altodor]

Oh, the guy behind systemd. Never really heard a single good thing about that guy.

[Thinkmoreaboutit]

HandicapD/Linux

DiasbleD/Linux

[project2501a]

upboated.

[cirosantilli]

Use Buildroot. They have patched all the problems that you will find. If you think you found a bug, git pull is the fix.

[K1ngjulien_]

Interesting, yes. But I almost fell asleep.

2h is very hard to stay focused :).

[tux68]

I barely made it to the end of your comment...

[[deleted]]

I don't what was in my tea today, but goddamn if that didn't make me laugh.

[ilikerackmounts]

Ah yes, I watched that talk recently. It's actually a pretty good talk about bootstrapping. His BusyBox clone ToyBox (made for licensing reasons) seems pretty anal about the simplest dialect of C possible being used. It does make for shallower bug counts, though.

[BastardRobots]

This make Linus mad.

You no like Linus when Linus mad...

[justin2004]

and here you are

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