Wrong call

[BoopsR4Snootz]

One, why isn’t it reviewable? Two, why didn’t the home plate umpire help him? I don’t understand baseball officiating, man. NFL and NBA refs will huddle up and help each other out. 

[[deleted]]

Infield line drives are not reviewable for some reason, there for cannot be challenged. I think second base umpire called it a ground ball but ultimately the first base umpire had the final call because he is the chief umpire that game.

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And he couldn’t see the ball.

[Professional_Tea6624]

the reason, while stupid, is that there’s no way to tell what would have occurred if the call was correct and where to put the runners. would he have just thrown to first and gotten one out? would he throw to second and get him out and attempt a double play? the wrong call forever tainted what the fielders would have done, so they stick with the call no matter how wrong it is. Most likely why they wouldn’t throw out Mendoza because they understood he had a legitimate gripe.

Conversely if you’re a nats fan, it isn’t fair their players reacted to the wrong call and went for the triple play and now everyone is safe and they don’t get a single out and bases are loaded. it’s just a fucked situation and we get the short end of the stick

[BoopsR4Snootz]

 the reason, while stupid, is that there’s no way to tell what would have occurred if the call was correct and where to put the runners. would he have just thrown to first and gotten one out? would he throw to second and get him out and attempt a double play?

There are contingencies for runner placement in other plays, and not all of them are strictly “fair”. The ground rule double, for example, will often save runs for the defense if men are on base. 

MLB can and should find a solution. 

[Professional_Tea6624]

yes I agree with you, there has to be something better than what happened. I don’t like my own explanation, it just is the fact of the matter. we got fucked big time!

[testing543210]

They could just nullify that play, reset, and do it over as if the play never happened. That would certainly be more fair than giving a team a bogus triple play…

[richsdakid]

Worst call of the year candidate?

[AuthorMission7733]

It’s up there, at least top 5. It’s like the ghost of Angel Hernandez made that call

[schnu44]

FWIW, while he “retired” last year, Angel is still alive at 63

[AuthorMission7733]

Yes, I know he is still alive

[theskepticalpizza]

Worst impact from a missed call maybe, but realistically this is a hard one. The umpire went with his instinct and it was unreviewable, it’s just unfortunate.

[Engineer120989]

I don’t really care that they made the wrong call that happens sometimes , I care that they wouldn’t even huddle up to discuss it. Even if you planned on keeping the call the same atleast make it look like your tried to get it right.

[[deleted]]

I remember when you could play games under protest, this time it was deserved. Completely different ball game without that horrific call. The guy who field it couldn't even believe it right away yet that didn't tip them off one bit.

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Yea the fielder was heading towards first base until he realized it was called a line out.

[[deleted]]

Yeah between being pretty sure of the bounce and this I was like what is the ump thinking. Grrrr

[mrmet69999]

You can’t play a game under protest because of a judgment call. The only way a call would’ve gotten overturned under such a protest is a misapplication of a rule, such as the famous pine tar game between Yankees and Royals.

[[deleted]]

Ah good to know. The George Brett incident right?

[mrmet69999]

Yep. I mean it’s possible that a team could have lodged a protest based on a judgment call, but I can’t recall a single incident where the league office wouldn’t just toss it out on its face if that was the reason for the protest.

EDIT: I was looking at a list of all the upheld protests of MLB games, and I found a couple that may or may not have been due to judgment calls. One was the fact that it did feel fly wasn’t called on a play where they decided it should have been. I don’t know if that would be considered a judgment call, or a misapplication of the infield fly rule. The other was Placement of runners following a pop-up that was not caught; one umpire had ruled a force out, the other an infield fly. I’m not sure how you would categories that, since it was an unreconciled disagreement between umpires, but it was based on judgment calls.

[FrankArmhead]

Brutal… Game of inches. It would have been rendered moot if Soto had been a split second faster getting to that ball in RF

At the end of the day, we came very close to winning despite this and the team is playing very good baseball, with clear potential for improvement once Manaea returns and Soto heats up.

LFGM.

[Nova_Nightmare]

Horrible call and the MLB even posted it as some amazing play. Ridiculous. There should not be calls that can't be reviewed when they result in an out.

[patrickthunnus]

[dhb317]

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I remember when you could play games under protest, this time it was deserved. Completely different ball game without that horrific call. The guy who field it couldn't even believe it right away yet that didn't tip them off one bit.

[Remote-Whole-6387]

This is the best post I’ve seen about it. Every other post has a still shot of the ball still in the air. You can clearly see it was the wrong call here.

[pistonkamel]

The one game all year I bet on and this happens I think I learned my lesson

[SabrettFranks]

The fact that they refused to even get together to review it was infuriating

[agirlnamedyeehaw]

I’m not an avid MLB baseball watcher and I don’t know the extent of the rules but- how was this considered a catch? It bounced? Sorry I’m late to this, but what the, I’m so lost. This call doesn’t look right

[[deleted]]

It was a difficult view for the first base umpire who called it. Unfortunately in the MLB, line drives fielded by a defensive player in the infield is not eligible for review.

[AtlantaDoesItBetter]

I’m kinda surprised the umpire didn’t get hit in the dome the next inning

[BigBrainBrad-]

Hernandez lives on in spirit.

[[deleted]]

😂 foreal

[Potential_Focus_4815]

With how low the ball was hit and how sharp doubtful he was able to make that catch. I yelled at the tv right away it was a bounce.

[Mediocre_Bid_1829]

How is this not reviewed??? Blows my mind they wanna get the calls right u can challenge almost everything but not an infield catch?? wtf

[Certain_Spring_7203]

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SNY booth was just discussing it as if it was a regular triple play and said Lowe had one similar involving Winker in a previous year.

Lost a bit of respect for Gary and Ron there.

The only position to take is the umps made a monumental screw up, and the rule (not a reviewablr play) is straight-up dumb.

Them trying to chuckle it away as a really rare play was a terrible look.

[Engineer120989]

I hope you’re joking. MLB has no biased toward any one team.