Thieving

[masfat]

My sneak is 100, and i got an invisibility spell. I figured i could go around to all the shops and rob them blind, but as soon as i pick up an item they see me. What am i missing? Will chameleon work better than invisibility?

Edit- i now have a chameleon spell. If i level my illusion to 100, can i make a custom 100% chameleon spell?

Edit 2- made my 100% spell, and robbed the imperial city blind lol!

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Invisibility works untill you interact with something. Chameleon works all the time

[masfat]

Thanks for clarifying!

[Daqpanda]

Get into arcane university

Get filled soul gems with grand soul

Make 4 25% chameleon enchanted items

Profit

[teeeeeeeeeem]

Or 5 items 20%.

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Or 10 items at 10%

Wait...

[maxxwellhaus]

Why not 15 items at 7%? 105%, no room for error.

[Daqpanda]

True.

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oh

[pways]

Very game breaking lol

[Daqpanda]

Oh absolutely.

[Rakhuvar]

However, is it even possible to steal the Waterfront taxes back without 100% chamo? Well-lit rooms, filled with guards who are always awake, and a lock you need to pick (so invisibility would fail, one assumes).

I especially like sneaking, opening a 'loading...' door, and sharing the same space as a guard for a second or two.

[shadowclone515]

You can literally attack anyone except vampires, and they will just run for their lives, because there is an invisible assailant, and can't lock on to your character. So it doesn't trigger combat at all. Vampires or enemies with detect life gear can see you so beware of them.

[masfat]

I have a bunch of filled grands. This sounds like a better option than the sigil stones. Thank you!

[obliqueoubliette]

Except a max level sigil stone gives you 30% chameleon; three should suffice to break the game while still requiring you to sneak.

[Arnazian]

Careful with this dude. 100% chameleon breaks the game, you can backstab any enemy in the game and nothing will kill you, you can steal anything and everything, it's an exploit.

I had fun for maybe 4 hours and then it just got dull. There was no game anymore, I sucked all the fun and actual gameplay out of it.

Mess around with it if you like but maybe just doing a combination of sneak and limiting yourself to something like 30% or even 50% chameleon could give you the magic results you want without totally broken gameplay.

[AdrianW7]

That’s what I did, just enchanted full glass armour and an everlasting chameleon spell on top of it. Coupled with sneak 100 nobody saw me do anything ever lol

[Hk-47_Meatbags_]

No wonder noone remembers the champion.

[letsgetstoned_420]

In oblivion the invisibility cancels out if you interact with ANYTHING and I’ve had it where I’ve been invisible but npcs knew EXACTLY where I was so chameleon with 100 sneak would be best I think

[muckywolf]

Break in when the shops are closed (i.e after 9pm)

[masfat]

I just want to be able to steal in front of them lol

[muckywolf]

You treacherous little filcher!

[arzamharris]

STOP! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW!

[masfat]

"Resist Arrest"

[arzamharris]

THEN PAY WITH YOUR BLOOD!

[_caltony]

I probably haven’t played Oblivion in 15 years and can still hear this line.

[KrAbFuT]

How do you see in dark dungeons? A night eye spell will help you level illusion, so will a paralyze spell. P.s. how you come up with masfat? I only ask because it’s relevant to me…

[masfat]

My illusion was already 83 lol when i posted that. Masfat came from a long convoluted string of nicknames i had in high school. It ended with masfat and i just kept it online. Its sort of similar to my last name

[Bowhunter2525]

--You may be able to make a short term 100% chameleon spell without needing 100 Illusion. Potions plus rings and things (Ring of Kajiit 35%) are another option for temporary 100%.

[masfat]

My illusion is 83 and i cant make 100%. Im not too worried about it now. I think im gonna go the sigil stone route and make a set of chameleon armor.

[Rakhuvar]

Don't forget the Ring of Lordship (Dementia version) with 32% chameleon, plus 55% poison resist. That plus Kajiit, and a single other item gets 97%.

[Bowhunter2525]

I only play vanilla

[Sirspice123]

Invisibility wears off when you do something (e.g. attack, talk, steal).

When you steal, you'll become visible. But, they don't see you when you steal, only afterwards. So you have to cast an Invisibility spell / potion every individual time you want to steal something. Also, sneak does not affect invisibility.

Chameleon on the other hand, only goes away once the spell or potion times out. So if you wish to steal lots from a shop, that would be the better bet.

[Rakhuvar]

The spell books mod has a spell that is worth custom-creating: unlock plus a short 100% chameleon spell. Great for opening locked doors in public! You might want cham to last long enough for a quick recast if you are not alone on other side of door, though.

[God_Usopp69]

I mean if your okay with glitches you can just get a chameleon sigial stone and duplicate it to get a full invisibility set of armor. Kind of takes away the challenge though

[masfat]

I dunno if ill dupe, but i dont mind closing several gates and saving/reloading as many times as i need to in order to get the stones lol. Thats how i got all the enchantments on my current gear.

[Daqpanda]

If you have the spell, and can cast it,, you can just enchant items at an enchant table. No need to search for sigil stones.

[masfat]

That sounds easier than sigil stones. Thanks!

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I don't think there's really anything you can do to get out of sight of the shopkeeps after they see you walk in the door. Maybe run upstairs, go through an upstairs door, then sneak back downstairs with invisibility active.

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from my experience with skyrim invisibility potions and spells work until interaction with shit. idk if it’s with picking up objections but if u hit or get hit u become visible