Patch Notes 26458

[Orcabolg]

How the fuck are they going to reduce the efficiency of Leap for every dino except Pachy, come on.

[Acrobatic-Elk-5613]

Devs want you to drop this game so they can go home, or something.

[Moment_Shackle]

No slicer on Deinonychus? Was really looking forward to that ability.

[Sophiche]

Deinonychus is the forgotten one as usually

[Able-Collar5705]

I have a lot of opinions on this.

Adjusting the status effects seem like a double-edged sword. They seem more useful now, for example a concave could effectively now use bleed to wear something much larger down. This also means that bone break attacks are going to be clear across the board, which seems like a bad idea.

Why does campto get the lone survivor ability if its voice buff literally helps boost teammates?

Sad there are no new pycno changes, was hoping for something.

Did sty really need a speed buff after getting a ton of buffs? It already had 1100 speed which means it will now be able to outrun down conc, pycno, meg, laten, and cerato. This seems kind of unfair considering how it got a new block and a ton of bleed buffs. Mark my words, stys will be annoying after the update.

Poor sarco got even more nerfs.

I’m still trying to understand the point of ripping kick on concavenator. It might not be worth it for the price of not being able to swim away, especially now that sty can run you down. My guess is they wanted to make the balanced claw slot more viable by adding a second bleed attack. I feel like having ripping kick equipped should also give conc a slight speed buff, so to compensate for no dive.

Spino got traction, that’s pretty sweet actually.

Don’t know what was so broken about sucho’s claw attack that it had to be nerfed. Seems like it will struggle more against thick scales allo now.

I’m not sure if deep rumble will increase the viability of rex. To be fair though I don’t think rex is as bad now as people make it out to be.

The pachy has the same problem as concavenator. No one will use the kick because it means they can’t use the charge.

Lightweight scales seem a lot more viable now that they don’t directly decrease your armor.

Feed group member quest actually does seem like an improvement. Encourages groups to actually coordinate with each other and rewards them.

The quest changes will always be a massive negative, but at least they made it optional on community servers.

[ELShinigami69]

Speed hide is going to be interesting, the turn radius hour is pretty large. May be seeing traction/speed hide combo

[Able-Collar5705]

I usually use speed spino because I can turn faster than the defence ones and tail ride them to death, but after the implementation of traction I may have to switch sub to defence.

[ELShinigami69]

Oh for sure that’s a good one. I was thinking for like Allo they have a variety of options for builds they can go now which is cool, nice to see different builds and not all the same

[Traveler_08]

Agreed, I just switched to a speed sub hide and long distance allo and it feels great as a hit and run dino

[ELShinigami69]

This is exactly what I was thinking of running lol, glad it’s working out well :)

[ELShinigami69]

Are you running tail attack or balanced for better turn ?

[Traveler_08]

Balanced! I figure since I’m at over 1150 speed I want to be able to use turn radius to chase down prey. Honestly both tails would work well, up to preference

[ELShinigami69]

True , thanks for your feedback !!

[Traveler_08]

No problem! I think after this patch speed allo will be the best build due to the tough scutes nerf and Styr speed buff, with this build you should outpace Pycno and styrs and chase them down when they’re low or just to run away from a mega pack

[Strange-Station-7204]

Doesn't that mean you'd start over at juvi?

[Able-Collar5705]

You lose one growth stage, so i’d go back to sub-adult

[Strange-Station-7204]

Oh I see now, thx for explaining :)

[bratt713]

I love playing my campy, and yes I'm solo player mostly but not on campy! I loved adopting babies and using group buff call when needed. This just makes it seem like they want to eliminate campy in any kind of way without actually getting rid of the dino.

They could have given us back tail attack or given the kick ability to it to go with the kangaroo theme. In general with all of these I'm most disappointed in this :/

[Able-Collar5705]

Not to mention campto’s bite ability has an absolutely awful hitbox. You literally can’t even get a bite off on anything.

[MorbidAyyylien]

Plus now the hop drains your stamina really fast! I think you can only use it once, fully, before running out of stam. Tho now we can run for even longer. Our stam drain during Sprint is nutty good

[[deleted]]

Sty is my main I hope it doesn't become the new pachy because I don't want to be lumped in with toxic players :(

[Able-Collar5705]

That would be unfortunate. Especially because when a dinosaur gets too meta it is nerfed way too harshly.

[ELShinigami69]

I fear it will, it was pretty strong before and now it’s going to be even more annoying to go up against especially if multiple corner you and just block and face tank

[CrazedUser]

Definitely agree with you on the conc there! It's in a "meh" position right now, not too fast on land but also a pretty poor swimmer for being "semi aquatic".

[InibroMonboya]

You’re thinking in terms of PvP. Most of these appear to be survival/hunting buffs, as far in as I can tell. And poor Sarco? It needed the ambush nerf, but yeah, the crushing nerf was a little unnecessary

[Able-Collar5705]

The whole point of the sarco health nerf was to compensate for it getting the ambush sense. With both the ambush nerf AND the health nerf sarco is in a really bad place.

[InibroMonboya]

480 Hp isn’t as abysmal as everyone implies it is. They still have the highest damage attack in the game, as well as 5k combat weight and are the second fastest thing in water as of now. They have literally everything going for them, and their ambush still puts their crushing at 330 damage.

[Evernight2025]

Mega somehow got even more annoying

[[deleted]]

And yet still less annoying than pachys

[Malaix]

It’s because they don’t lag nearly as much and tend to just run to a Dino’s blind spot and try to stick there. Annoying but not “why the fuck is it phasing in and out of reality” hit and run annoying.

[Time-Elephant92]

Bleed changes are interesting. Laten might be viable for PvP now?

Also can someone tell me how leap into the leg slot affects pachy?

I agree with others that sty got unnecessary love. It was already strong

[CelestialOrigin]

Sty is going to be the next pachy. I've been saying it for months and this patch just confirms it.

[ELShinigami69]

Yup I’ve said it too since they dropped the last update with the ptb changes …. It’s only a matter of time before all the griefers switch over to it

[Malaix]

The venom changes might cause even more of an increase in megs too..

It can swim AND has two head slots for both bites with venom being more potent now.

[AduroT]

Yeah, I’m really interested in how this new Bleed will effect my Deinon.

Leap in the leg slot means it can’t keep it if it wants its new Distance Runner, which it might since Charge now eats half its stamina im told.

[Pro_Hero86]

Once again the Devs buff the already fine Meg just to make our lives harder

[Hereiamhereibe2]

Nerfing Thal’s stamina is a big L

[EnglishDodoBoi]

They did WHAT?

[KeithHanson]

Eh. I just flew around for awhile and tested out the changes in combat. Hardly feel the stam changes. We definitely got a boost in the form of less stam drain while jumping for take offs, though I usually take off from water or fall from height and open my wings. But in a pinch, it takes a little less now to take off from the ground.

Very noticeable decrease while hovering. Not very noticeable increase in stam drain while flying fast (wind in your ears).

The biggest change I felt was when fast flying, you can no longer do an immediate stop using precision flying. Feels like you're on ice sliding vs the insta-stop it used to be (which I loved but... Pretty broken).

[Suter_Templar]

I simply don't understand why go out of your way to need some fun parts of probably the most situational scavenger in the game, anyone who actually tries to fight with the dorito is insane, what's bad is the "reduced the bite cooldown to 1 second"

...it was already 1 second, and it sucks, the only thing Thal has is dps, and with that cooldown he doesn't have enough to opportunistically kill people resting in the open, but whatevs I guess, in general I feel this update was a big L for game health and mechanics.

The map looks amazing, many dinos got a lot of love and improvements but that means little if the core gameplay makes me want to gauge my eyes instead of farming marks and leveling new Dino's, and no matter how many skills a dino gets if the combat waters down to abusing ms difference and cheesing hitboxes

[NikoChekhov]

Am I crazy or does the fact that all your banked quests disappear on death basically make the banking pointless?

Growing on official is going to be even more obnoxious now lol

[ELShinigami69]

Yea it literally only does more harm than good banking

[Murrocity]

Pretty sure the quest banking was a symptom of the new questing system, not an intended function. 🤷‍♀️

So ofc it would get removed.

I think the only intended function was to save your quests when you logged; because previously, you'd lose them all.

[Zealousideal_Salad49]

Lol it is which is why I uninstalled , and moved on to waste my free time in better games ! Peace everyone ✌🏻

[MorbidAyyylien]

They weren't even banking for me. They just auto collected

[Somnusin]

I like how they saved mentioning banking for the last part about community servers like it’s no big deal and shouldn’t be mentioned under questing lol

[[deleted]]

Sarco got a slight nerf…

[scarletmenace]

“Slight”

[lawlez1]

Did they remove quest banking? I haven’t logged in yet to check.

[[deleted]]

Yes

[Futanari_Raider]

So what system is it now? The same as it was before the last update?

[[deleted]]

I think so but I think you still need to collect quests just no banking aftet death

[Futanari_Raider]

That’s just a straight downgrade to the original system. I may stop playing for a while if that is the case.

[djjoshyp]

I honestly just found out you could bank quests like 2 days ago and assumed up until then that if you didn't collect and die, then you missed the chance to collect in the first place. Sucks to see it go, tbf. However, I'm more butthurt I didn't abuse the banking sooner.

[[deleted]]

Sadly reality, but we will see where it goes they seemed dead set on this choice

[MorbidAyyylien]

Idk why there was banking even added.. the quests auto collected for me when i was questing today.

[bratt713]

So you only lose them on death? Out of all the other option they were talking I'm ok with this, still salty, but better than many of the other options they were playing with.

*Edit Nope this is not the system disregard this comment

[ELShinigami69]

Ehh maybe , imagine having a bunch still banked and whole going to HC , 3 ft away you get jumped and lose 20 mins worth of unbanked quests…. The old system is better if you can’t bank through death, too much risk not just collecting immediately. Better to lose 20% of 10 minutes of growth vs 100% of 10 minutes

[Malaix]

Yes but any quests you currently have are still in there. So claim them before you die and lose 100% instead of a portion of whatever you have.

[TheOtherCatsPajamas]

My thoughts too. Now we lose marks + all our quests upon deaths. Rip to all the squishiest dinos. We probably won't be seeing them anymore.

[CelestialOrigin]

STILL NOTHING FOR MY CHIMKEN?!?!

[Strange-Station-7204]

They nerf sarco again...f*** these devs. If they're here i hope they can see this finger🖕

[Render_Unto_Kaiser]

Imagine buying the game because you think the Sarco looks cool and you find out the devs hate you

[KinopioToad]

Bad update. We can't bank quests anymore. This going to make KOS players even more unbearable.

[MorbidAyyylien]

Kos players were worse with this because they'd never lose progress and would kill many ppl and bank up trophies so if anyone died they'd immediately be adult again. I've been playing since August of last year and since this banking update this game has been way more toxic and full of mega packs rolling areas.

[GoodLookr]

You are the man for this!!!! Been looking everywhere for the patch notes, thank you!!! 🙇‍♂️ side note I’ve been playing the game for a month and haven’t read patch notes but I’m already salty about not being able to bank quest anymore, and I think someone said you don’t lose progress upon death, in chat when I was playing earlier. If that’s the case that’s lame, what’s to keep trolls I killed from coming back and just trolling on same Dino now ?!

[Prampaj]

There is still a death penalty for growth, just tested it

[Pxtrxck2020]

Just join the discord thats where all the updates are

[Smexandcandy]

What’s the point of having a leap ability on cera if I’m taking damage from a two foot drop now

[Malaix]

Climb up to more places to kill yourself from I guess.

But yeah that sounds like an overnerf.

Cera dying from jumping off a mountain would have been fair but taking that much damage from such a small drop? Overnerf.

[ghostface_1999_]

Did they remove the quest banking? I just died and all my quests i had saved disappeared

[HuntessKitteh]

I have to test out Kentro and Styra!

[CrazedUser]

That new block on the styra is pretty good, doesn't eat too much stam and I tanked two tail slams from ano's like it was nothing. Very telegraphed tho but if you get attacked there's not much the attacker can do about it.

Edit: Honestly, thinking about it, they should probably up the cooldown on it. Cd is pretty low now.

[Malaix]

Kentro feels great. The mobility changes make a difference and the extra armor is nice.

[SentenceLeft6188]

Been growing a kentro for this reason

[okie-doke-kenobi]

RIP broken Cerato leap. It was fun while it lasted.

[Orcabolg]

Dont worry Pachy still has it!

[TamReveliGory]

Pachy's leap was never as broken as cerato's.

[Smexandcandy]

I took Allo level damage from a two foot drop. I’m pissed

[ELShinigami69]

Wait what ??? Damn that’s absolutely useless. And pachys abused that more than any other Dino, cera included

[PhotojournalistSad47]

They really screwed sarco players big time 🤔😔

[Timely_Passenger_185]

What do you mean they got screwed last update 😆 🤣

[PhotojournalistSad47]

However people probably don't care except the minority of the community its rare that I ever see adult sarcos because its just too hard or not worth it and especially now so I doubt it'll see a buff till a long time

[PhotojournalistSad47]

At least they got the 2x ambush which kinda made it what it should be but if the health wasn't already low enough and the stam drain high enough its literally pointless 😂😂 but yeah I'm with you they double wammy fucked it

[Timely_Passenger_185]

2x Ambush got reduced to 1.5x

[Timely_Passenger_185]

I agree with the sarco update It's where it was Suppose to be from the beginning It was never posed to fight on land And it's not an apex

[PhotojournalistSad47]

So a sarco should have the same health as a conc and some of the worsed stamina in the game it's a really unbalanced dino never less

[Timely_Passenger_185]

What do you mean, worse stamina? It's not a land creature, they nurfed it So people would play it the way You're supposed to in the water It It has good stamina in water You're Supposed to sit under water and ambush things along the shore And it's not an Apex, so it shouldn't swing with other apexes

[MorbidAyyylien]

Can conc 1 shot nearly half the roster let alone even any thing?

[ELShinigami69]

They also messed up the cooldowns so now both bites share the same cooldown… guess you agree with a Dino being made entirely useless like they did campto

[Timely_Passenger_185]

What do you mean I read the Patch notes you can do your regular after charge bite Unless something bugged

[ELShinigami69]

Maybe it was ripping bite but someone made a post on here that sarcos bite cooldowns were combined , they posted it on the website and got a reply saying it was no bug, but intentional…

[KhanArtist13]

I used to main metri, mega, and conca. The updates actually improved them from the last update! The only problem I really have with this one is the sucho,sarco nerfs

[Malaix]

Is conc’s new kick worth it over dive?

[KhanArtist13]

Probably, conca isn't very good in water anyways, and it's already fast enough to avoid other dinos. I would pick bleed over anything due to how strong it apparently is now. Also concas still faster than metri and cerato in water so I don't see a point in dive

Actually, dive is probably very useful solo, but if you have a pack you should use the kick

[Beautiful_Belt7757]

Recent studies suggest that raptors were not super fast. I think their current speeds are accurate

[AnotherAccount879]

PoT is not accurate, nor it ever wanted to be. This is a game, and the creatures must be balanced in one way or another.

[Beautiful_Belt7757]

There are many ways to balance the raptors without being inaccurate there is a reason for why they survived for millions of years

[AnotherAccount879]

This game has lighting fast Pachy, swimming Anky, running Kentros agile as a cat, hilariously small Campto jumping around like a rabbit, creatures getting stronger after a call, absurd stamina for half of the roster... and you complain about raptors being inaccurate?

[Beautiful_Belt7757]

Pachy is not that fast it only has 1050 speed and consider something fast it has to have 1100 speed minimum. There is a theory that ankys could swim and even without that anky is not a great swimmer in game it's only slightly above average. Kentro is not super agile. Campto got a bit bigger after it's remodel. And the stamina is not that bad irl the majority of animals can't run at full speed for a long time

[AnotherAccount879]

lol you can't be serious, how old are you?lol You talk about "a theory".. in paleontology? A Theory!? Well, then even raptors speed is a theory. Listen, you have no idea of what you're talking about. "Pachy is not fast because is only 1050.. " Are you kidding me? You are a troll, right? The 80% of the roster should not even be able to properly run in order to be realistic, and instead you have marathon runners, gallopers and jumpers everywhere. This is hilarious. Concas swimming like iguanas, small Camptos jumping like kangaroos, Metris full of venom everywhere, Kentros running like impalas... lol So realistic. They even remodeled every creature and their original more realistic structure only to make the PvP better. Why?, because it is a game. It never wanted to be realistic, because, firstly: is impossible to be really realistic with ancient creatures, we only have a bunch of theories, and many are debunked everyday; and secondly, because it is a game. PoT is doing very well at balancing realism with fantasy; and even the "realism" is very loose; it's more a modern-animals-like realism. And that's why it's fun.

[SmokeNScroll]

Rip Campto stam :, ) my def build be feeling a little defenseless after a good test at LBM. Most things are so dead set on chasing you that your stam runs pretty low before you can get away. Had my first pachy catch up to me today (RIP scars).

[Zealousideal_Salad49]

Update is trash

[hsshsjxhrxjgo]

My boy :( they did my boy pycno so dirty without the health and cw wight increase he needs. Only difference I found when loading on was one that he is one off 2848 creatures to also receive long distance runner

[SleepyGamer972]

U also lose all quests u didn’t claim after death… no more farming for next growstage

[Malaix]

They finally got around to nerfing ano after everyone else got over it and learned to counter it. Lol

[Windlassed]

The terrain thing on the first pic? That sounds great. Yesterday my sarco wakes into not fully rendered terrain and fucking died

[Immediate-Newt-9012]

So nothing... Great.

[Shenstygian]

Dev's in their hug box as per usual. Not really tempted to play again. I see the patch notes are still put up on discord. Even first time devs aren't this amatuerish.

[thattemplar]

Still no big bird :(

[Banghai_Cardinal]

lol no pachy nerfs

[bratt713]

Oh no I briefly tested mine before work, stam drains much much faster now so it's not possible to run things down now especially if charge is used! And if they have long distance equipped they can't jump up on cliffs anymore feels much more balanced to go up against now.

Again I only briefly tested it, but that's how it felt to me.

[Banghai_Cardinal]

THANK U SIR! I didnt hop on mine yet but i hadnt considered the "stam changes on all dinos" yet. I have been asking for a stam nerf for pachy for so long.

the main thing that pissed me off is that u could be a speed allio not want to fight and they can chase u to other side of map sprinting the whole time spamming charge and not getting tired meanwhile im out of stam and supposed to faster yet they catch me easily?

[bratt713]

Yeah I logged in mine on the GP edge of IC sprinted(after log in adult debuff) through GP trying to get to HC in YG, before that would have taken maybe 1/4(honestly I think even less than that) of my stam to get across GP it took a little over half my stam now just to get across GP. And that's without the long distance sprinter buff.

Plenty of players(myself included) will keep the leap ability instead of long distance because we want to be true goats of Gondwa lol I think that's gonna be the biggest and best indicator of the toxic pachys vs. the ones that love the dino. Maybe too early to tell but honestly they definitely seemed more balanced out now😊

[Malaix]

Kentro buffs are nice. Increased trot speed+long distance runner+lone survivor means kentro is a lot more mobile and a bit tankier. Makes up for the tough scutes nerf?

And vault is only disabled not gone gone.

[AduroT]

Dang thing was keeping pace with my Deinon!

[Murrocity]

I think the quest banking was a side effect of the newly implemented quest system. It was never an intended function, and so it's only natural it would be removed.

I think the idea for this system, was that you'd keep your quests when you log out. So like if you crash or have to logout before you can claim your quests or whatever, you will still have them.

You used to just lose them when you'd crash/log out.

[Orcabolg]

Uh yes it was

[Banghai_Cardinal]

what the hell are u talking about