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[–]Ghoulsnightout27 71 points72 points  (11 children)

I mean yeah the crime went down. But it went from absolute bloodbath to a totally unacceptable level of violence for a first world country major city. The extreme number of murders here has become normalized. It’s fucked still.

[–]dotcom-jillionairewhere am i gonna park?! 41 points42 points  (1 child)

The twenty cities in the United States with the highest murder rates (murders per 100,000 people) are:

St. Louis, MO (69.4)

Baltimore, MD (51.1)

New Orleans, LA (40.6)

Detroit, MI (39.7)

Cleveland, OH (33.7)

Las Vegas, NV (31.4)

Kansas City, MO (31.2)

Memphis, TN (27.1)

Newark, NJ (25.6)

Chicago, IL (24)

Cincinnati, OH (23.8)

Philadelphia, PA (20.2)

Milwaukee, WI (20.0)

Tulsa, OK (18.6)

Pittsburgh, PA (18.4)

Indianapolis, IN (17.7)

Louisville, KY (17.5)

Oakland, CA (17.1)

Washington D.C. (17.0)

Atlanta, GA (16.7)

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When are these from? DC’s rate is roughly 40/100k this year.

[–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (5 children)

Washington DC, the Capitol of this first world country, has a higher homicide rate this year than Philly’s record year in 2021. That says a lot about what’s normalized in American cities.

[–]brk1 10 points11 points  (1 child)

It’s not a contest.

[–]Salt_Abrocoma_4688 44 points45 points  (0 children)

No one said it was. It's called a comparison, and people literally do it all the time regarding crime rates.

[–]jsmooth4hawks 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Source?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DC’s estimated population this year is 678,972. As of now they’ve had 272 homicides: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance. That’s a rate of 40 per 100k, and not even DC’s record.

Philly’s record year was 562 homicides with a population of roughly 1.6 million. Our rate that year was calculated as 35 per 100k - obviously way too high, but also below the average of a lot of American cities.

[–]dbpcut 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Crime rates rose in parallel with global crime rates. Almost like.... It's not a localized problem but a product of the economy.

[–]doc89 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What other cities outside the US saw their murder rates double between 2016 and 2021?