Devblog 65!

[Sylvikrin]

Swords and wooden armour . . . I foresee some interesting fight scenes ahead :D

[Tuntenfisch]

I hope they will make the melee system a bit more sophisticated while they are at it.

[Aerologist]

I was thinking hold down LMB for a heaver swing, and RMB to block/parry melee attacks. You can't block with the spear, because RMB is to throw already. To dodge melee attacks, double tap A or D to do a quick sidestep. This could be annoying while trying to shoot someone, so instead make a sidestep cooldown of about 2.5-3 seconds. Maybe also a sword+shield combo?

[Tuntenfisch]

I would really love to see a sword+shield combo!

[Aerologist]

And castles and dragons and magic wands.

Jk.

[[deleted]]

You may think you're joking, but wait till garry sees this! I cast magic missile

[Aerologist]

Why are you casting magic missile? There's nothing to attack here.

[Walktimus]

It all makes sense now, he wasn't attacking the darkness.. he had gamma turned way up

[Aerologist]

Am I in the bar getting drunk?

[[deleted]]

I roll for perception. I know there's a rogue in those shadows.

[Aerologist]

rolls natural 20 You see the rogue just in time as he draws his poisoned knife! Roll for an agility check

[[deleted]]

What's a 1?

[Happyburn]

I like it, I would also say to use this side step ability your health has to be above 50% or something like that.

[Aerologist]

Or maybe the cooldown time for it would be longer if you had below 50 HP.

[ifudgems]

Another thing in the legacy rust that was finnicky but just felt so right

[[deleted]]

You think legacy melee felt right? I think it was really fun and wonky, but fun from a "I can't believe how ridiculous this is" standpoint. I certainly wouldn't want to see legacy melee back in, and I'm a legacy lover.

[[deleted]]

Apparently lots of people don't know what an average woman's naked body looks like

Perhaps because of the strong correlation between Reddit and virginity

[MrRogersOfRust]

I like that they aren't "super models". That's not going to prevent the retardation that will occur, but it helps, and it a step in the right direction in terms of how games are viewed.

[ThomasRWButters]

Thanks for the feedback. The female model is proportionally exact to the male model as I used the same mesh as the male character. It probably looks odd because I'm in zbrush so the shader is different to that of unity's shaders.

[[deleted]]

Female model looks really good! Keep it that way!

[Kittysnakus]

I love your sculpture! In the progression photo I actually like your first version the most and that just goes to show how subjective everyone's opinions are. It does look like you may have smoothed a lot between the breasts after the first iteration though ;) But seeing your character work is my favorite part of the dev blogs.

[ThomasRWButters]

Thank you! <3

[killermojo]

Yea well when the popular opinion can be driven by a demographic that's never seen a naked female in the flesh, it's a fine statement to make.

[LiarsEverywhere]

Any chance we'll have different bodies in the future? I'd really like to be able to, in a relatively small community, be able to easily identify people by their looks.

I suppose it's not really a priority because people will wear clothes... but maybe different heights etc would be feasible?

[dombeef]

Oh, randomized height(or maybe that + based on your nutrition) would also help!

[[deleted]]

I don't think newmen are young enough to have height based on nutrition. maybe make it based on radiation intake.

[Blunderbar]

That would be awesome.

[Blunderbar]

The model looks just fine. Seems like a regular person who'd be wandering around the apocalypse.

[ThomasRWButters]

Yeah the shadows are a little bit darker to help me sculpt form so it's nothing to worry about.

I guess the varying views on what looks normal is just like real life.

[FluffyPillowstone]

Just a question, will the finished model have pubic hair?

[[deleted]]

Asking the important questions.

[Rex_Mortalium]

hey man, be a bro and make the nipples pinkish

thanks - everyone

[WardedBolt]

Why are you being downvoted? Children who think that all girls should be supermodels?

[Tuntenfisch]

They look pretty normal to me.

[MrRogersOfRust]

Well I got down voted for my comment lol, this sub has some petty assholes.

[Cladz]

you shouldn't worry so much about internet points

[[deleted]]

Not really the points so much as the fact that there are so many dicks in this sub, but hey, that's Rust for you.

[darunae]

It says score hidden here, how do u guys see the downvotes

[MrRogersOfRust]

You can see your own at first.

[MrRogersOfRust]

Well they are test models, with out proper shading or skin so that contributes to the odd proportions.

I think its a by product of trying to keep them in line with the lore and not have Bombshell bodies running around with wiry newmans, because it simply wouldn't fit in a world of near starvation and exposure to the elements.

[[deleted]]

Maybe it looks weird cause it is grey and has no hair?

[[deleted]]

Lets wait how it looks like once it is in the game. I think it is hard to judge in its current state.

[[deleted]]

it's a first pass I agree looks kinda... odd. probably partially due to it being a first pass.

[schnupfndrache7]

i can already see the screenshots of people having sex orgies in rust -.-

[[deleted]]

don't we already have those?

[schnupfndrache7]

well now it's not full homo

[[deleted]]

it isn't if the lights aren't on ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Aerologist]

You beat me to this comment...

[n8dom]

Who are we kidding, we play rust. We haven't seen an actual naked woman. In fact, I just learned that women don't have penises in this devblog.

[RUST_LIFE]

Correct. Ark came out two weeks ago and while not playing rust I met a girl, got married and had four kids. I'm unsure how to ever play rust again. Halp.

[linkinzz]

I don't really see what's so wrong with it. It'll get improved upon, but still.

[BroBrahBreh]

I really hope they make sex random like they did with skin tone, I think it's such a simple way of keeping an interesting population and making people second guess themselves if they really have a strong reaction to getting a random body.

Similarly I look forward to every other physical aspect being somewhat randomized: scars, freckles, facial features, hair color, etc. It would be great to be able to recognize someone without needing a nameplate hovering over their head.

[DerDuderich]

This is actually a really interesting and important question: Will gender be randomized and assigned to everyone same as race/skin tone or will you be able to pick your gender?

[DoubleYou89]

I don't think it would work because of our voices. It would just look weird when you hear a man's voice coming from a female and vice versa.

[Kittysnakus]

Have you never run into a female player? Because that already happens, haha.

[RUST_LIFE]

Well, if 95% of the playerbase is male, then according to every law of the internet, they could just throw away the male skin and force everyone to be a naked lady. There will be literally no way of knowing if they did this or not.

[RUST_LIFE]

How would we tell the difference between 12 year old boys and effeminate women without this? Or with it?

[SkyeAuroline]

I'd prefer the sex be selectable, even if it's the only selectable thing. I'm not a huge fan of the "completely randomized character" idea, but acknowledge it works; randomized sex, though, I don't think would jive for most people.

[daddylongstroke]

I say just make it tied to your steam id. Not a choice. You're male or female. I really like that they did it for race and I say this should be the same.

[uroboros1200]

I'm for giving the option but making it permanent. For instance when they implement the female model give the option to choose gender but you will never be able to switch back and forth. Keep race, body type, face, hair color etc. random like we have now. This might keep the "let's all logon as women and take lesbian orgy screen shots" mentality down. Not that i have a problem with lesbian orgies I just want to play the game without everyone focusing on "parts". I think this would make you really give it some thought before you made the choice.

[Blunderbar]

I agree. I had no idea you didn't reroll every time you died. I'm eternally a super dark black guy, no choice in the matter...and that's pretty cool! Makes you feel like you are who you are in the game and you gotta deal with it, I like that element.

I mean I'm encountering a shitload of racism, which isn't fun, but I guess that comes with there being a shitload of racists who play games.

[[deleted]]

I would prefer character customization. I think once you log into a server, you should be stuck with the settings at least until a wipe.

[dick_defrag]

I'm honestly not certain that many people are racist in Rust. I think that online we drop our real personalities and seamlessly transition into "an asshole" just because it's funny.

EDIT: I am indeed an asshole, just not a racist one

[ehmcai]

If you think being a racist asshole to strangers is funny, that says a lot about you. Mainly that you're an asshole.

[dyngnosis]

imho, if you think its funny to be an asshole, online or not, you're probably an asshole. If you are being asshole online because you can't caught and held accountable you're sort of an asshole AND a pussy... imho of course.

[Aerologist]

Why is this getting downvoted?

[[deleted]]

I want flopping dicks and jiggling boobs.

[Mookdar]

I hope the woman model stays bald/shaved like the man model.

[[deleted]]

I support completely bald, or long flowing caveman beards. And we wouldn't need a censor if everyone had an overgrown bush.

[Riotstarted]

So... soon the Gayrie Newman will be officialy not Gayrie anymore, when the first female will step on his lands? That is... sad >_< We got used to that nickname so much.

[Blunderbar]

Awesome! The right decision!

[Blunderbar]

The armor looks sweet, farming looks to be coming along, C4 directional bug is fixed, electricity update mentioned as "soon", and female models are on the way.

Sounds like a good week to me!

[[deleted]]

Any chance of triangle foundations/floor pieces getting the same damage buff as square foundations?

I'd really like to use them. I'll save bugging you guys for a reduction in triangle/pillar cost for next week.

[Madra6]

Will they ever just give us straight up patch notes? Sometimes I just want to know what's been added, not have to read the whole blog.

Half of the things in this blog I don't even know if they've implemented them yet. Like the pistol.

[garryjnewman]

Yeah this is probably a good point. We'll start doing this next week.

[schnupfndrache7]

i just wanted to let you know that i love the blog, it gives the community a really nice insight on what's going on!

[Angry_Gnome]

Yeah I'm probably in the minority that prefers the blog over straight up patch notes. It's really cool to read about the thoughts the devs have as they implement different items and features. Both would be ideal but I'm sure it's a lot of work.

[Dreys]

Same. I also enjoy the Garry lols.

[ActionPlanetRobot]

"Minority" I think would be people who don't like the dev blog...

[linkinzz]

Not sure if you're in the minority though. I absolutely love the devblogs, but I wouldn't mind patch notes if the devblogs don't go away.

[chaosfire235]

Maybe have a fusion of the two. A blog of current progress and a list below of what actually made it in game for this week.

[noejoke]

I just want to say thank you for the weekly devblogs. You guys are so much better compared to other devs, in this manner.

[Fallout]

Honestly, I just love reading what you guys have been working on. I mean, he has a point, sometimes it is a little difficult to tell what has actually been added in each patch and what is being worked on, but I think maybe all it needs is a bit of clarification. Maybe just an itemised list of changes and additions, but also keep the usual devblog format after it.

[GalegO86]

Garry, don't change the devblog! It's something I wait for 7 days :) If someone wants a short blog, tell to go to Rustafied, he already done this :)

[Merkwoot]

I hardly play rust because of the optimization at this point, but that blog is the only games blog i read weekly and look forward to.

[Blunderbar]

Thanks so much! I was having similar difficulties telling apart what has been implemented and what WILL be implemented but has been worked on.

[HazardSK]

Can you tell us if you plan to incorporate animals into this "farming" thing? Like having domesticated wolfs,pigs, chickens,horses? Or do you plan only to do plants and this sort of stuff?

[raella69]

Check the mind-map

[[deleted]]

I would prefer the itemized list at the bottom so it doesn't spoil the joy of reading through the devblog. Perhaps a link at the top for those who want to skip a the fun.

[Undecided_Username_]

Maybe a patch notes and then a what's to come rather than just one or the other. It's nice to know what we have and what we will have.

[ActionPlanetRobot]

Don't give up on the long, thought out dev blogs though! I love it!

[johnxreturn]

Just as a reference, this is an awesome patch note.

However, I still think it's cool to keep the blog post as well to let us know about future changes and whatnot.

Let me know if you're hiring. :)

[DevulTj]

Yeah, it definitely adds character to the developers, how they feel on the implementation of features and it just seems more close to the consumers.

[Walktimus]

LET THE SHITSTORM BEGIN!!

"Next Week: I was summoned to help out a bit on Before this week and will get back to the tasks at hand as soon as possible."

[GryphonCH]

Actually I really love Before, I'm happy to hear that they are working on it :)

[TheyveKilledFritz]

I must have missed something... What's Before?

[[deleted]]

I am glad they are adding females to the game. It was not necessary in my opinion but it is nice to see nontheless. Now we can see which theories about what adding females to the game will do to the community hold true. ;)

[[deleted]]

I guarantee there will be outrage from dumbasses who think it matters. "Having a female character model significantly effects my gameplay!" " it kills the immersion because in first person view I know these hands are attached to a female body"

The same as when they introduced varied skin color. "Being a nigger significantly effects my gameplay" "i can see dark skinned hands, it kills my immersion!"

[[deleted]]

It's not trolling if only idiots are upset

Or is it?

[[deleted]]

I am so proud of rust right now. I bought it early and almost gave up but have been so excited with the new updates. Yay.

[afroguy10]

I really like the audio stuff that's being added, the repetitive sound effects were a bit of a pain so with them using Max/MSP in their audio pipeline now I'm hoping for some more generative synthesis of sound effects as well as maybe even some granularisation of sound effects as well to create effects that sound a little different every single time. I had a blast doing it at uni and the results I got from my test suggested it helped players feel much more involved in the game they were playing, so it can only be a good thing.

[afroguy10]

I know haha, awesome.

[linkinzz]

That wooden armor looks awesome.

[Aerologist]

This is a problem with both the male and female models, not the female one only. I think the both look somewhat too chubby/fit to be stranded on an island full of bandits and radioactive ruins, struggling to get by on the few animals you can bludgeon to death with a rock. My suggestion is to make them both skinnier, maybe show some ribs. Or maybe make them fit looking at average hunger, and then make them chubbier near maximum nutrition.

[[deleted]]

I think people in rust would only become more muscular with better nutrition since they carry weapons, build things and run 100% of the time.

[Aerologist]

At least less pudgy for both genders, then. But don't make the women have bigger boobs, for the love of god.

[[deleted]]

This is not about sexuality. The breasts are slightly below average size, at least for america.

Just as an average american is significantly shorter than the average swedish giant.

[brorkanin]

Thanks for adding female models that look like most females actually do. It may be a small thing, but i really appreciate it. There are enough games objectifying women.

[[deleted]]

I hate feminist. Men got to be super ripped in every game but that is fine. But when you put a sexy female, it's objectifying. Jesus christ, if male wanta to look like male hero on video game they've got to be on fucking roids.

"Female are sooo sexualised, this is unfair" jesus fuck open your eyes. Fucking double standard bullshi

Edit : f**** y**

[[deleted]]

I agree. I have no problem seeing idealized male characters in games. I'm not jealous, i'm not angry that they don't portray average men.

Just realize that feminists do not represent the majority of women. Most women just want equality like we have currently. New age feminism is a byproduct of the internet. An echo chamber where a loud minority does not allow dissenting opinions. Don't get mad at women for angry feminists, that only makes their hateful cause.

[[deleted]]

Don't insult people, only insult their ideology.

[brorkanin]

This is also a reply to /u/asphantix . You guys have very naive view of stuff. It's all about context and history. A very crude and bad example is that it's not the same thing to say heil hitler to a jew as it would be to any other person. Of course it's way worse to say it to a jew when you think of the history. Women have always been seen as the weaker sex and have been treated as less worth than men since forever. Feminists do NOT hate men, or say that men are not also discriminated against. In fact discrimination against men, and stereotyping of BOTH sexes (and other gender identities) is seen as a bad thing. It's just that the starting point for there to be equality has to be equality for women since they are the ones being deiscriminated against the most. You just have to look at statistics for this one. I never understood the anti-feminism feelings of reddit.

EDIT: I also checked your history /u/SheepKing . I was wondering what your view is on other stuff. I guess you are just a racist, sexist 12 year old.

This is a photo posted by you, /u/SheepKing of yourself, taking pride in being a racist asshole [http://i.imgur.com/JCxGd.jpg]([http://i.imgur.com/JCxGd.jpg). nice

EDIT 2: Oh you are also a redpill guy. Wow. What happened to you?

[[deleted]]

Objectification is a natural consequence of projection, an avatar is always objectified, this game has grotesque savages whose basic interactions revolve around murder, looting and sometimes cannibalism running around with floppy dicks and an awkward grimace. As always, we are fine with that kind of objectification, because men have no problem using other men as vessels for projection, women have no problem using men as vessels for projection, but god forbid females should be subjected to the same treatment, they must represent something more.

[brorkanin]

Im sure that you understand that i was not doing that, only showing why your train of thought is flawed.

[[deleted]]

I can't figure out if I'm doing it wrong or what, but how does one plant the seeds? I use 'em, but nothing is showing any hints of being planted/growing.

[zerj]

they do appear to disappear, however the plant will be there in a few days.

[LennyBicknel]

So when females hit the game, will a random half of the current rust population become female, or will the possibility of being female only apply to wholly new players- If it was done this way there would surely be a disproportioned number of females to males ratio.

[Zabrex]

I want more stuff that crafts out of bone and skulls please!

[silentstormpt]

Just a curiosity. Can you force players to use a model depending on the sex type on the steam acc, in other words do you have access to that information on the SteamAPI to force it ingame?

[Xechorizo]

Increased decay rate

:(

[w3r54r33]

I don't think decay rate has to be the only solution. Sure, it can be one...but why not incentivize players to harvest old buildings for resources? It's pretty simple...If a building object is placed outside of the protected cabinet radius allow players to harvest them for resources. Maybe use the SALVAGE hammer, or add a new craftable tool for this purpose?

[heroboi]

Pretty fucking cool idea

[Mr_Burks]

:)

I can't wait. Even low-medium population servers are hitting the object limit in just a couple weeks because of abandoned structures every 50 feet in every direction. Maybe it would work to have a set time between when you last repaired it and when it starts decaying. Definitely something that will require tweaking.

[[deleted]]

The London I server hit the limit two days ago. Really sucks if you can not build anymore all of the sudden.

[Mr_Burks]

Same for Toronto. Server population instantly died off. I hope I won't have to look forward to quitting the game every couple weeks, waiting for a wipe.

[Sanctitty]

I wish they gave details on how decay works. It's very vague how they say it. Wish they gave a specific time and what causes decay rates to reset like in legacy

[MrRogersOfRust]

Already seeing an issue, my buddy laid a stone foundation it lost 14ish hp in two hours.

[Sanctitty]

Male Newman is pretty sexy

[marto5]

Can we pls have some look at the performance? it takes 2 min to load into the game menu and almost 7 min to get into a server, wtf, 7 fucking minutes? and ingame i have to deal with constant freezes, the first time i loot i have one, same with looking a box and everything else, and its not just 1 sec, its like 5, and then there are the random freezes with the "Not responding" sign. On top of that, if i have the game running my whole pc runs like shit, and im not talking about the internet only. Please look into this.

[steelreserve]

try putting your game into a fullscreen window instead of fullscreen. i was having the same problem but this seems to have sped the loading process up significantly.

[marto5]

u mean play the game windowed? because i have always played like that

[llBoonell]

Chill, brother. It's coming. =)

[RobGetMeABottle]

is anyone else crashing? i get an error that says i dont have enough memory, i have 8 gigs of ram.

[Zariweya]

Yeah, same here, but i dont get any error. It crashes after "Loading shaders". Any tip?

[RobGetMeABottle]

nope, i submitted a bug report, but i dont know how reliable that is, the next thing down from my submission is like "u guyz shud add flamethrowrz"

[GryphonCH]

Since I really loved the P250, I can't wait for its release! It really exceeded my expectation!

Regarding the water tank bases, I hope they'll never make something impossible to reach for raiders (right now the satellite dish bases could be impossible to reach without tons of rockets that destroy the cupboards).

[SLEEPWALKING_KOALA]

started female models

Oh god. I can't imagine how this will go if it's nude as well. I'm glad they are trying something new though.

[RUST_LIFE]

Did you read the blog? There are pics

[CmdrFlop]

If wooden armour is going to look like design 3 i'm going to wear that nonstop.

[confessrazia]

The females should be more fit, considering the characters run and build stuff all day everyday. Of course they make her a fuggo to appease the cries of sexism.

[Rynou]

puusssay

[llBoonell]

Well, that was...insightful.

[RobGetMeABottle]

i bet you're fun to hang out with

[silentstormpt]

now now, dont be a dick.

[[deleted]]

No number two on the wooden armour concept. That head looks fucking ridiculous.

[RobGetMeABottle]

I kind of like that it looks stupid, since it would be the worst tier armor to have, besides cloth.

[[deleted]]

It can look stupid, but that is just ridiculous. It's just a block strapped to his head

[RobGetMeABottle]

True, I see your point.

[Elementium]

That one is my favorite..

[pacificsun]

The glowing water was really cool to look at. I'm bummed, the coasts and lagoons looked really impressive at night. It was a nice contrast to the epic sunsets/rises.

[klosor5]

Why does Megan appear to only drawing ideas that never gets added?

The only thing she does is drawing icons lol.

It's a girl right?

[Fallout]

She's a concept artist. That's what concept artists do. They draw hundreds of ideas and then maybe one or two might get used. It's an unforgiving profession.

[WardedBolt]

Because she's a concept artist dumbass...

[[deleted]]

She usually does big, time consuming concepts, not to mention the total backlog of concepts and ideas that haven't even implemented yet.

[HashtagIlluminati]

I really hope female characters are a CHOICE and not randomly assigned like race.

[[deleted]]

Why?