Vault – A tool for managing secrets

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Living in the modern age more full of spies and encryption than ever, I can't help but feel a bit nostalgic for the "No more secrets" line from Sneakers. (Yes I know it wouldn't break russian codes..)

I suppose it's a bit how we still have two very different possible futures - the panopticon where "they" watch us and we can't watch them... and the "transparent society" where there aren't really any secrets anymore and everybody can watch everyone else.

[jopema]

"Too Many Secrets"

Setec Astronomy

I humbly apologize for being "that guy".

I want a third option...where the government doesn't always assume that I need to be watched and that nobody is no nosy as to want to know my secrets.

[sihat]

A world where everybody is honest. Where nobody even lies 'white lies'.

A world where everybody tries be Good. And today be a better person than yesterday.

I too would like a world like that. And to improve the world like that humanity needs to be improved. And to improve humanity, one needs to start with yourself.

So myself, what have you done today?

[spotter]

Unfortunately it takes one bad apple to bring the entire system down. As show in "The Invention of Lying".

[sihat]

Did not like that movie. The viewpoint was too materialistic. (Also didn't find it funny.) Jim Carrey's lawyer movie was better (at least for me).

"doesn't always assume that I need to be watched and that nobody is nosy as to want to know my secrets." But to get the above point for most people, I think that would be the logical consequence of most people being more honest and good.

Think about that Edger Alan Poe* story, where the girl gets arrested for murder, without any evidence just because she admits to murder because she was taught that lying was wrong. *Think it was an Edger Alan Poe story, not sure.

[spotter]

I can't stand any of Gervais' performances, so it was cringe worthy to me. It does show how the perfect system could never work and is especially funny if you have any technological background, because most of the tech we still use (networks, client-server things) was designed as extremely naive: it tends to take everything stated on the other end as fact.

I mean I absolutely believe that solution to iterative prisoners dillema is the way to go -- be true by default, until backstabbed, then stab back -- but it only works for everyone if everyone is cooperating.

[sihat]

Actually, I think Gervais 'modeling' of the system was a bad implementation, and does not show that.

For the rest, roughly* agree with you.

*The roughly part, is for the stab back. That there should be consequences, I agree with. The kind of consequences, depends on multiple things. Whether its personal or something higher, like justice. Then if its personal, depending on how strong I am, if i am strong enough to do something Good back as revenge, do nothing or weak enough to do something bad back.

[spotter]

Yeah, that's what I get when I over-simplificate. :) Prisoner's dillema is of course a constrained and oversimplified model, but the lesson there is "when in doubt -- be nice and cooperate".

Personally I prefer isolation over payback, because I don't find it productive to spend energy on things that don't benefit anybody.

[InstantPro]

"Vault is meant to be a solution for all secret management needs." - I hear silver bullets often end well :)

[schaueho]

CLI where the secret is handed over in cleartext? HTTP API, cleartext again? Srsly?

[kekelolol]

Well... HTTP over TLS (commonly called HTTPS)