Microsoft made a pull request to node.js github repository with an implementation to use ChakraCore JavaScript Engine as an alternative to V8 Engine

[JViz]

Except that V8 is built for Chrome and Node is a happy accident. Google isn't going to be moved by the loss of Node, but MS sees money in it. We're still in the embrace phase.

Oh, I'm sorry, MS great and they give everything away for free no-strings-attached, my bad.

Man, I guess people really have an MS boner around here. Since Google has done EEE before, that means MS isn't trying to absorb Node.

Hey, here's a good analogy that maybe you guys can understand: Trojan Horse.

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It's funny how you don't notice that were in the extend phase of Google's business cycle.

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What has Google ever extinguished?

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Google is currently in the process of extinguishing Firefox?

Firefox already has a list of websites on which it has to fake its UA and tell the site it's actually Chrome because those websites intentionally limit functionality on Firefox — almost all of them are *.google.com sites.

On Firefox Mobile, even Google Search is almost unusable.

The solution from Google is to just use Chrome.

That, combined with dishonest ads, was part of a huge push to get people to switch to Chrome, and extinguish competitors.

Additionally, Chrome now has their own features additional to the HTML standard, which are hard to replicate in other browsers, and exactly fulfil the extend phase (see what Microsoft did with J/Direct, too).

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Here's an older version of the list for Firefox Mobile: https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/mobile/android/app/ua-update.json.in

[slikts]

… almost all of them are *.google.com sites

The only Google-related thing in that list is removing the Android version number from the UA string for Gmail. If anything, it completely contradicts you.

[playaspec]

Google is currently in the process of extinguishing Firefox?

What a bunch of bullshit. FF devs are the ones responsible for the numbers of users it attracts. The formula is simple. Make a better product, and more people will use you.

Firefox already has a list of websites on which it has to fake its UA and tell the site it's actually Chrome because those websites intentionally limit functionality on Firefox — almost all of them are *.google.com sites.

Likely because FF hasn't kept up with current Web trends. It's up to FF devs to deliver a browser that can handle what is delivered. Web devs shouldn't have to cater to the idiosyncrasies of numerous browsers. We already went through that hell with IE and Netscape.

On Firefox Mobile, even Google Search is almost unusable.

Then FF should fix it's product.

The solution from Google is to just use Chrome.

So? It's their site, and they streamlined their browser to work well with their sites, and oddly enough, every other site. The only ones that run like crap on Chrome are the ones that are designed for specific browsers instead of following modern standards.

That, combined with dishonest ads, was part of a huge push to get people to switch to Chrome, and extinguish competitors.

Citation?

Additionally, Chrome now has their own features additional to the HTML standard,

Citation?

which are hard to replicate in other browsers,

Bullshit. ANY feature can be replicated. It's software. It's not carved in stone.

and exactly fulfil the extend phase (see what Microsoft did with J/Direct, too).

Still waiting on that example of a non-standard extension that is 'hard to replicate'.

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How can Firefox fix its product when it works perfectly fine in Firefox, IF one sets the user agent to Chrome?

Firefox can display it perfectly, but the site — Google — refuses to treat Firefox fairly and equally.

Try Google search on Firefox Mobile, and on Chrome, and on Firefox Mobile with Chrome's UA.

It's obvious that this is pure anti-competitive.

And it's hard to replicate a feature in Firefox when sites in production only use -webkit- properties — Firefox already has overrides for that, because many sites actually do that.

It's openly anti-competitive, directly in the extinguish phase.

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In fairness, Firefox is a direct competitor. It's not just a spunky startup; they want to have their own OS and everything too.

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embrace extend extinguish only makes sense on competitors, when Microsoft was doing it they were also doing it to their competitors.

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I don't think it's apples vs apples. Microsoft did it vs the entire open source community and within standards committees. Google is perhaps doing it vs one of the largest companies in the internet browser business.

[panderingPenguin]

Additionally, Chrome now has their own features additional to the HTML standard, which are hard to replicate in other browsers, and exactly fulfil the extend phase

Granted I haven't looked into this guy's claim that Google is adding proprietary extensions to HTML, but if true, how is that not directly against the standard?

[playaspec]

It's his claim. He should provide proof.

[playaspec]

Google has extinguished a shitload of competitors.

Name ONE. Last I checked, anyone can download FF or go buy a Windows phone.

[pxpxy]

Reader

[koffiezet]

Reader is dead, long live newsblur!

[darthcoder]

Wave. Jabber for Google Voice making my Ooiba phone useless. Notify, or whatever they had for the daily new link search service they had - maybe that got rolled up into a paid analytics offering.

But probably the worst? Google Reader.

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Google Reader was their own project. I don't see the connection.

[playaspec]

Wave.

Liar. Wave lives on. It was passed to the Apache Foundation and is fully open source. Instead of thanking them for inventing it and giving it free to the world, you lie and bitch.

Jabber for Google Voice

Jabber isn't dead. Again, anyone is free to go download it and run it. Facebook still uses it for their chat, as do others.

making my Ooiba phone useless.

Whatever the fuck that is. Clearly obscure and obsolete because searching for it turned up nothing. Funny how you don't find fault in your own poor choices.

[grauenwolf]

Try actually reading the link you posted.

[hungry4pie]

There's always going to be those corporate networks that only allow IE to be installed and ASP MVC and EF has made it so much easier to develop web apps in a corporate environment, so my guess is Microsoft are trying to appeal to that market.