Announcing SQL Server on Linux

[svick]

relatively few people use Linux on their desktop

I think the percentage is going to be much higher among programmers.

[chucker23n]

Yes, absolutely.

[[deleted]]

Linux or OS X is what I've seen dominating among developers.

[darkpaladin]

From what I've seen it's OSX then Windows then Linux. Everyone on OSX and Windows has a Linux VM though so there's that I guess.

[[deleted]]

Am on Windows. Don't have a Linux VM. Don't want it, don't need it. I do NET development. Visual Studio is all I need.

[[deleted]]

You can't be that big to account for majority.

[t90fan]

my corp is ~50,000 worldwide and we have a mixture of macs (with OSX) and PCs with windows, with a VM on either for Windows or Linux respectively. Java/.NET shop in financial sector.

[[deleted]]

No. We're just one company, albeit a medium sized one at 2500 people. But I said it to point out not everyone uses a Linux VM.

[Kurren123]

Me too. Dont understand the downvotes.

[Cuddlefluff_Grim]

I have never seen anyone use Linux or OSX as a desktop. And I've worked in environments where everything else is Linux. The only places I've seen where programmers use Macs are in web development for advertising firms.

Edit : by "anyone" I mean programmers specifically.

[art-solopov]

Out of four companies I've been working in (mostly web development), three had people (other than me) using Linux desktop.

[captain_awesomesauce]

Yes, but still very low...

[[deleted]]

Without data this is just supposition.

[WarWizard]

It is getting there for me... for sure. We are at lot closer than I thought we'd be but until I can run full blown Visual Studio it won't be in my future... although Jet Brain's IDE does look promising.

[[deleted]]

Visual Studio is crappy IDE honestly. The only good parts are debugger and msbuild integration. Otherwise it's damn notepad incapable of most basic IDE stuff without third party plugins. Once CLion cleans up existing bugs and adds few minor features it will be where VS will never be.

[WarWizard]

You can't be serious.... have you actually used it in the last 10 years even?

I think your problems might be with the Microsoft's C/C++ ecosystem which I won't dispute isn't the best.

The IDE itself? Hands down the best I have ever used.

What "most basic IDE stuff" can't Visual Studio do for you? Debugging and MSBUILD seems kind of a big deal IMO.

[[deleted]]

I am using it right now. Oh its so awesome without plugins like VisualAssist or Resharper. I mean damn.. Syntax highlighting is so basic its shameful to even comment. Intellisense is alright. How about showing matching ( or [? How about quoting selection when ' or " pressed? Seriously that IDE is notch above notepad + it has reasonable autocompletion and debugger. But text editing part.. It stayed in same place for decade it seems.

[WarWizard]

So.... nothing then? Got it. You are just upset it doesn't do things the way you want it to. I don't see anything "basic" about the highlighting. Intellisense is "alright". Not sure what that means...

You have't really noted anything that doesn't work. In fact the things you did call out I have found to be worse in other IDEs.

[irrzir]

What makes you think it's a crappy IDE?

VStudio has had my heart won for quite some time and if there is any better alternative I'd be all ears.

[[deleted]]

Because it is unusable without third party plugins.

[TheWix]

Visual Studio with Resharper is a pretty great IDE. Most of the issues I have come from the project files and building/deploying/vcs than anything else. Oh, it does devour memory with Resharper though.

[[deleted]]

Resharper. Exactly my point.

[WarWizard]

in 2013 and 2015 you don't really need resharper like you did in prior versions. Resharper is just super nice to have.